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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2023 12:53 GMT
#341
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 09 2023 12:53 GMT
#342
On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.

Do you just mean honest?

@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable. Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?


Yeah, pretty much, its either ignorance or willful ignorance
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2023 12:54 GMT
#343
Darth you should go to sleep like you keep on saying
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 12:57 GMT
#344
On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable. Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?


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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:59 GMT
#345
On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.

Do you just mean honest?

@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable. Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?


The post being questioned is #186, let's called it "rayn's push".

What I needed was to know how he was reading slam. Darth answered that on #187.

So someone explain me how he answered me in #186 if the answered I needed was in #187?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:01 GMT
#346
On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


Why is slam town?



Like this was my question which darth didn't answer until #187
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 13:03 GMT
#347
Okay DP, but dishonesty != ignorance != wilful ignorance

See why I ask for clarity? Bad faith is what people say when they want to win an argument, it just means all the bad things IMO instead of anything specific.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:03 GMT
#348
So if Darth was a "super cool" town player, instead of jumping to me and look for clarification, he just saw a opportunity to a misslynch when rayn pointed that out (he thinking darth answered me already)

Like, as town, you go and double check if things are correct
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 13:06 GMT
#349
DarthPunk wrote:

Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,

Which questions had already been answered?
So far i can only find the question "Why is Slam town?" towards you from Cake.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:10 GMT
#350
Btw if you have question towards me, go ahead.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:11 GMT
#351
And sorry, I understood he was also making a case on me for saying I would post less <_<
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 13:13 GMT
#352
On June 09 2023 22:10 CopCake wrote:
Btw if you have question towards me, go ahead.

why am i town?
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:14 GMT
#353
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 13:14 GMT
#354
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 13:15 GMT
#355
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:16 GMT
#356
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 13:16 GMT
#357
For me, the main thing is why you have a town read on Rayn when that contradicts your meta of suspecting him. This meta is demonstrated in obs QT for endurance II, is evidenced by Rayn's report of your usual MO, and is expected based on your match history together of him being scum often (betrayal breeds suspicion not blind trust).

All this other stuff is squabbling compared to that. IMO your answer to this question will likely decide whether you live to see the night.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:17 GMT
#358
And I also said that after last game in which I was obvs I would be less paranoid of you :D
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:21 GMT
#359
On June 09 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
For me, the main thing is why you have a town read on Rayn when that contradicts your meta of suspecting him. This meta is demonstrated in obs QT for endurance II, is evidenced by Rayn's report of your usual MO, and is expected based on your match history together of him being scum often (betrayal breeds suspicion not blind trust).

All this other stuff is squabbling compared to that. IMO your answer to this question will likely decide whether you live to see the night.


There is this thing that Rayn has rolled mafia A LOT.

Last game we were both mafia together.

And last game I was town and he mafia, he was very aggressive if I recall correctly.

There is also the stupid, "I am the cop, you idiot"

Like, idr a game in which both of us have been town.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2023 13:22 GMT
#360
On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?

The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter.
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