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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 09 2023 13:22 GMT
#361
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:22 GMT
#362
Wait, when we were town together was that game when town ate each other, idr if when chezinu was mafia he was mafia with him.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 09 2023 13:22 GMT
#363
On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?

The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter.

He's asking a question, how can that be true or false?
table for two on a tv tray
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2023 13:26 GMT
#364
On June 09 2023 22:21 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
For me, the main thing is why you have a town read on Rayn when that contradicts your meta of suspecting him. This meta is demonstrated in obs QT for endurance II, is evidenced by Rayn's report of your usual MO, and is expected based on your match history together of him being scum often (betrayal breeds suspicion not blind trust).

All this other stuff is squabbling compared to that. IMO your answer to this question will likely decide whether you live to see the night.


There is this thing that Rayn has rolled mafia A LOT.

Last game we were both mafia together.

And last game I was town and he mafia, he was very aggressive if I recall correctly.

There is also the stupid, "I am the cop, you idiot"

Like, idr a game in which both of us have been town.

Holy Guardian Cht3 both you guys were town O.o
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:27 GMT
#365
On June 09 2023 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:21 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
For me, the main thing is why you have a town read on Rayn when that contradicts your meta of suspecting him. This meta is demonstrated in obs QT for endurance II, is evidenced by Rayn's report of your usual MO, and is expected based on your match history together of him being scum often (betrayal breeds suspicion not blind trust).

All this other stuff is squabbling compared to that. IMO your answer to this question will likely decide whether you live to see the night.


There is this thing that Rayn has rolled mafia A LOT.

Last game we were both mafia together.

And last game I was town and he mafia, he was very aggressive if I recall correctly.

There is also the stupid, "I am the cop, you idiot"

Like, idr a game in which both of us have been town.

Holy Guardian Cht3 both you guys were town O.o


Was that the one chezinu was mafia?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:28 GMT
#366
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2023 13:28 GMT
#367
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?

The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter.

He's asking a question, how can that be true or false?

On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.

Do you just mean honest?

@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable.
Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?

I was referring to this part of the post. He did ask a question there similar style how he was last game hence my comment about my read on him.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2023 13:28 GMT
#368
On June 09 2023 22:27 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:21 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
For me, the main thing is why you have a town read on Rayn when that contradicts your meta of suspecting him. This meta is demonstrated in obs QT for endurance II, is evidenced by Rayn's report of your usual MO, and is expected based on your match history together of him being scum often (betrayal breeds suspicion not blind trust).

All this other stuff is squabbling compared to that. IMO your answer to this question will likely decide whether you live to see the night.


There is this thing that Rayn has rolled mafia A LOT.

Last game we were both mafia together.

And last game I was town and he mafia, he was very aggressive if I recall correctly.

There is also the stupid, "I am the cop, you idiot"

Like, idr a game in which both of us have been town.

Holy Guardian Cht3 both you guys were town O.o


Was that the one chezinu was mafia?


Yep he was mafia.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2023 13:30 GMT
#369
Anyways I should of said this pre game but will be gone for like 30 minutes in 1.5 hours due to taking care of school stuff.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 09 2023 13:30 GMT
#370
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


Copcake is altering the narrative the slam question was asked and answered when I stated she was operating in bad faith.

It was about why I asked Rayn which was stated in the thread in the beginning the slam shit was never involved in this discussion. She just found the one question I didn’t answer immediately and used it out of context
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 09 2023 13:31 GMT
#371
On June 09 2023 22:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?

The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter.

He's asking a question, how can that be true or false?

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.

Do you just mean honest?

@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable.
Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?

I was referring to this part of the post. He did ask a question there similar style how he was last game hence my comment about my read on him.

Yeah and DP comes out way worse looking than Cake from that.

RE; Cake, okay, i don't doubtyou would lie about that. Doesn't make you town but definitely doesn't make you mafia (rayn read).
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:31 GMT
#372
The only thing I remember from that game is truffle, chezinu being mafia posting a shit ton of videos and VE and me being the only ones calling chezinu being a bad guy.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 09 2023 13:32 GMT
#373
On June 09 2023 22:28 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.


He did get emotional and angry, Marv even pointed this out in the thread so how does this make any sense.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:32 GMT
#374
On June 09 2023 22:30 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


Copcake is altering the narrative the slam question was asked and answered when I stated she was operating in bad faith.

It was about why I asked Rayn which was stated in the thread in the beginning the slam shit was never involved in this discussion. She just found the one question I didn’t answer immediately and used it out of context


Literally, question was asked in #179 I think and you answered in #187...
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 09 2023 13:32 GMT
#375
On June 09 2023 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?

The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter.

He's asking a question, how can that be true or false?

On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.

Do you just mean honest?

@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable.
Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?

I was referring to this part of the post. He did ask a question there similar style how he was last game hence my comment about my read on him.

Yeah and DP comes out way worse looking than Cake from that.

RE; Cake, okay, i don't doubtyou would lie about that. Doesn't make you town but definitely doesn't make you mafia (rayn read).


No that is blatant misquoting just read my filter.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 09 2023 13:33 GMT
#376
On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,

DP lets get this straight;
Which are the questions she asked that were already answered in the thread, that make you think she is mafia?
table for two on a tv tray
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 09 2023 13:33 GMT
#377
On June 09 2023 22:32 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


Copcake is altering the narrative the slam question was asked and answered when I stated she was operating in bad faith.

It was about why I asked Rayn which was stated in the thread in the beginning the slam shit was never involved in this discussion. She just found the one question I didn’t answer immediately and used it out of context


Literally, question was asked in #179 I think and you answered in #187...

Read the bolder which I was responding to.

It’s in the post you are quoting.

That’s what I was saying was already answered in the thread.

After slam shit was done with.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 09 2023 13:34 GMT
#378
On June 09 2023 22:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:28 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.


He did get emotional and angry, Marv even pointed this out in the thread so how does this make any sense.


getting emotional and angry is different than getting someone else emotional and angry.
and i didn't even get e/a. Now i am starting to for this shit.
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:34 GMT
#379
On June 09 2023 22:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:28 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.


He did get emotional and angry, Marv even pointed this out in the thread so how does this make any sense.



???? What ?????

DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 09 2023 13:34 GMT
#380
On June 09 2023 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,

DP lets get this straight;
Which are the questions she asked that were already answered in the thread, that make you think she is mafia?


Can you read the bolder in the post I just quoted.

I’m phone posting in bed buts it’s fucking right there.

The bit about why Rayn.

It’s all contextualised in quotes.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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