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On May 27 2023 08:43 TankTopTiger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 08:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 27 2023 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 27 2023 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:yo wtf how does rayn go from On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked. to On May 27 2023 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk i am almost done with VE and voting him no matter what..
it's just too bad at the moment, i need a break. like I don't even Are you really just salty that I cucked your townie MZ lynch? Fuck off guy. I told you IN THIS THREAD that I was doing it you don't get to be mad about it because you fucked off and let me. No, i am annoyed you call me "intentionally obtuse" a number of times when i am definitely not and making arguments you YOURSELF agree with, like: On May 25 2023 08:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Especially with your god reads backed up by Koshi and the rest of the sheeple? Why would any mafia fucking stay tunneled on marv in that situation?
Like this is what I'm talking about rayn, it feels like you're being intentionally obtuse, I understand biases but this feels...targeted. With intent. With an agenda. like comeon you agree with my point it's a possibility when i was arguing i didnät think town meapak would un-tunnel marv. And then i am intentionally obtuse? On May 26 2023 23:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 26 2023 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2023 23:37 marvellosity wrote:On May 26 2023 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i am even entertaining to lynch LS just because if he flips mafia then i don't have to think about DP anymore. I don't think he is bussing. I don’t agree, if they are both maf I can absolutely see him bussing. Why do you think otherwise? idk why he should do that? Killing Koshi kind of works here, but like... DP started the bus (if that's what it is) when there was no real lynch candidate (aside from mebaby). I don't think it's the correct play there as mafia, since there is no way to predict where the thread sentiment for town ends up on. Isn't there, rayn? Isn't there? I seem to recall someone being able to predict where thread sentiment was heading YESTERDAY, when someone led the lynch from MZ to the DOCTOR, and I don't even have extra info. You think that someone with extra info would be unable to not only better sense thread sentiment, but be in a position to manipulate it? Like...I've been pretty townie on DP but clearing him because he tried tried to lynch someone "when there is no lynch candidate" feels.....again, like you're being intentionally obtuse. It feels like I'm playing with rayn ON HIS FIRST EVER GAME. AWWWWWWW NEWBIE RAYN!!!! This is full bullcrap because you're comparing scenarios some hours into the game vs some hours into the lynch and making it look like in both situations people should have the same amount of information on who gets lynched. Can you at least see hw there could be some holes in your thinking? But yeah no, rayn is intentionally obtuse playing like newbie. And this: On May 25 2023 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 07:24 Vivax wrote:
I‘ma call it a nighty-o
1gu I hope delivers something decent in the future. I don‘t think he read anything at all tbh.
LS gets a downgrade for last appearance while rayn is being annoying on me, redeemed by being observant on him tho.
I‘m sorry if MZ is town.
I‘d also add (to reasons why I think he’s mafia) that his complaint about the egregious posting was warranted, at the same time it felt a bit like he was exaggerating his reaction. Maybe to gain a bunch of cheap cred with those insulted.
Should be an interesting angle to revisit at some point. Dont worry i wont be advocating a lynch on you in ANY case (while i think you could be mafia) here. You will live to see D2. You read it here folx, rayn is actively trying to protect mafia Vivax from the lynch. I think this is where rayn fucked up ladies and gentlemen. Until now his play could be classified as stubborn town, this post right here proves that he's actively trying to harm town, removing the stubborn town possibility entirely because townRayn would never ever not lynch Vivax if he thinks he's mafia if the lynch is viable in this situation. FUCKING GOTTEEEEEEEEMMMMM Actively harm town my ass, all you even had was your read based on Vivax interactions with mebaby, where your town read marv had already agreed with me your read is not necessarily true. And that immediately translates to rayn is mafia? And after that all, you have to come and call me all kind of things and try making it look i am somehow offending you? I came to this game to play a nice game of mafia, you're ruining it. Sadly i don't even know if you're doing it because you're mafia or just an ass right now... You're the one getting personal and calling people bad. I could be wrong about your intentions, because I'm fucking town and I don't know your alignment. But you're calling me bad which applies regardless of my alignment. Fuck you rayn. You're not going to gaslight me into thinking I'm doing anything wrong here, you're the one with a bad fucking attitude because I DARE question you. I'm playing the game. Maybe you don't like how I'm doing it, but I'm doing it. I'm not ruining shit. I never called you "all kinds of things" I said it was like I was playing with newbie rayn because it felt like you aren't considering simple shit that WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS GAMES/POSTGAMES. And I did that ONE time. I'm not being mean to you or being offensive or anything like that. Maybe my reads are offensive to you. Maybe you dislike my reasoning. You were right that the Vivax read was wrong. Was it bad? Maybe. Maybe not. With a sample size of 2 I guess we'll find out eventually. So you're either trying to gaslight me intentionally because you're fucking mafia, or you're actually so full of yourself as town that you literally think anyone who has a different opinion from you is bad at the game. I'm going to be honest, I think maybe you're just town and a fucking dick. This brovado feels empty to me. Like VE is saying what he feels he should be saying, not what he thinks.
Yeah i really don't know why VE is being so arrogant towards me, i haven't done anything that warrants that.
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On May 27 2023 08:43 TankTopTiger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 08:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 27 2023 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 27 2023 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:yo wtf how does rayn go from On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked. to On May 27 2023 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk i am almost done with VE and voting him no matter what..
it's just too bad at the moment, i need a break. like I don't even Are you really just salty that I cucked your townie MZ lynch? Fuck off guy. I told you IN THIS THREAD that I was doing it you don't get to be mad about it because you fucked off and let me. No, i am annoyed you call me "intentionally obtuse" a number of times when i am definitely not and making arguments you YOURSELF agree with, like: On May 25 2023 08:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Especially with your god reads backed up by Koshi and the rest of the sheeple? Why would any mafia fucking stay tunneled on marv in that situation?
Like this is what I'm talking about rayn, it feels like you're being intentionally obtuse, I understand biases but this feels...targeted. With intent. With an agenda. like comeon you agree with my point it's a possibility when i was arguing i didnät think town meapak would un-tunnel marv. And then i am intentionally obtuse? On May 26 2023 23:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 26 2023 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2023 23:37 marvellosity wrote:On May 26 2023 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i am even entertaining to lynch LS just because if he flips mafia then i don't have to think about DP anymore. I don't think he is bussing. I don’t agree, if they are both maf I can absolutely see him bussing. Why do you think otherwise? idk why he should do that? Killing Koshi kind of works here, but like... DP started the bus (if that's what it is) when there was no real lynch candidate (aside from mebaby). I don't think it's the correct play there as mafia, since there is no way to predict where the thread sentiment for town ends up on. Isn't there, rayn? Isn't there? I seem to recall someone being able to predict where thread sentiment was heading YESTERDAY, when someone led the lynch from MZ to the DOCTOR, and I don't even have extra info. You think that someone with extra info would be unable to not only better sense thread sentiment, but be in a position to manipulate it? Like...I've been pretty townie on DP but clearing him because he tried tried to lynch someone "when there is no lynch candidate" feels.....again, like you're being intentionally obtuse. It feels like I'm playing with rayn ON HIS FIRST EVER GAME. AWWWWWWW NEWBIE RAYN!!!! This is full bullcrap because you're comparing scenarios some hours into the game vs some hours into the lynch and making it look like in both situations people should have the same amount of information on who gets lynched. Can you at least see hw there could be some holes in your thinking? But yeah no, rayn is intentionally obtuse playing like newbie. And this: On May 25 2023 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 07:24 Vivax wrote:
I‘ma call it a nighty-o
1gu I hope delivers something decent in the future. I don‘t think he read anything at all tbh.
LS gets a downgrade for last appearance while rayn is being annoying on me, redeemed by being observant on him tho.
I‘m sorry if MZ is town.
I‘d also add (to reasons why I think he’s mafia) that his complaint about the egregious posting was warranted, at the same time it felt a bit like he was exaggerating his reaction. Maybe to gain a bunch of cheap cred with those insulted.
Should be an interesting angle to revisit at some point. Dont worry i wont be advocating a lynch on you in ANY case (while i think you could be mafia) here. You will live to see D2. You read it here folx, rayn is actively trying to protect mafia Vivax from the lynch. I think this is where rayn fucked up ladies and gentlemen. Until now his play could be classified as stubborn town, this post right here proves that he's actively trying to harm town, removing the stubborn town possibility entirely because townRayn would never ever not lynch Vivax if he thinks he's mafia if the lynch is viable in this situation. FUCKING GOTTEEEEEEEEMMMMM Actively harm town my ass, all you even had was your read based on Vivax interactions with mebaby, where your town read marv had already agreed with me your read is not necessarily true. And that immediately translates to rayn is mafia? And after that all, you have to come and call me all kind of things and try making it look i am somehow offending you? I came to this game to play a nice game of mafia, you're ruining it. Sadly i don't even know if you're doing it because you're mafia or just an ass right now... You're the one getting personal and calling people bad. I could be wrong about your intentions, because I'm fucking town and I don't know your alignment. But you're calling me bad which applies regardless of my alignment. Fuck you rayn. You're not going to gaslight me into thinking I'm doing anything wrong here, you're the one with a bad fucking attitude because I DARE question you. I'm playing the game. Maybe you don't like how I'm doing it, but I'm doing it. I'm not ruining shit. I never called you "all kinds of things" I said it was like I was playing with newbie rayn because it felt like you aren't considering simple shit that WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS GAMES/POSTGAMES. And I did that ONE time. I'm not being mean to you or being offensive or anything like that. Maybe my reads are offensive to you. Maybe you dislike my reasoning. You were right that the Vivax read was wrong. Was it bad? Maybe. Maybe not. With a sample size of 2 I guess we'll find out eventually. So you're either trying to gaslight me intentionally because you're fucking mafia, or you're actually so full of yourself as town that you literally think anyone who has a different opinion from you is bad at the game. I'm going to be honest, I think maybe you're just town and a fucking dick. This brovado feels empty to me. Like VE is saying what he feels he should be saying, not what he thinks.
I mean, I thought it, I typed it then I posted it. I guess it's up to you whether I should be saying it or not.
I'm pretty sure your slot is town, why aren't you voting for Chezinu with me?
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On May 27 2023 08:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 08:43 TankTopTiger wrote:On May 27 2023 08:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 27 2023 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 27 2023 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:yo wtf how does rayn go from On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked. to On May 27 2023 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk i am almost done with VE and voting him no matter what..
it's just too bad at the moment, i need a break. like I don't even Are you really just salty that I cucked your townie MZ lynch? Fuck off guy. I told you IN THIS THREAD that I was doing it you don't get to be mad about it because you fucked off and let me. No, i am annoyed you call me "intentionally obtuse" a number of times when i am definitely not and making arguments you YOURSELF agree with, like: On May 25 2023 08:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Especially with your god reads backed up by Koshi and the rest of the sheeple? Why would any mafia fucking stay tunneled on marv in that situation?
Like this is what I'm talking about rayn, it feels like you're being intentionally obtuse, I understand biases but this feels...targeted. With intent. With an agenda. like comeon you agree with my point it's a possibility when i was arguing i didnät think town meapak would un-tunnel marv. And then i am intentionally obtuse? On May 26 2023 23:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 26 2023 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2023 23:37 marvellosity wrote:On May 26 2023 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i am even entertaining to lynch LS just because if he flips mafia then i don't have to think about DP anymore. I don't think he is bussing. I don’t agree, if they are both maf I can absolutely see him bussing. Why do you think otherwise? idk why he should do that? Killing Koshi kind of works here, but like... DP started the bus (if that's what it is) when there was no real lynch candidate (aside from mebaby). I don't think it's the correct play there as mafia, since there is no way to predict where the thread sentiment for town ends up on. Isn't there, rayn? Isn't there? I seem to recall someone being able to predict where thread sentiment was heading YESTERDAY, when someone led the lynch from MZ to the DOCTOR, and I don't even have extra info. You think that someone with extra info would be unable to not only better sense thread sentiment, but be in a position to manipulate it? Like...I've been pretty townie on DP but clearing him because he tried tried to lynch someone "when there is no lynch candidate" feels.....again, like you're being intentionally obtuse. It feels like I'm playing with rayn ON HIS FIRST EVER GAME. AWWWWWWW NEWBIE RAYN!!!! This is full bullcrap because you're comparing scenarios some hours into the game vs some hours into the lynch and making it look like in both situations people should have the same amount of information on who gets lynched. Can you at least see hw there could be some holes in your thinking? But yeah no, rayn is intentionally obtuse playing like newbie. And this: On May 25 2023 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 07:24 Vivax wrote:
I‘ma call it a nighty-o
1gu I hope delivers something decent in the future. I don‘t think he read anything at all tbh.
LS gets a downgrade for last appearance while rayn is being annoying on me, redeemed by being observant on him tho.
I‘m sorry if MZ is town.
I‘d also add (to reasons why I think he’s mafia) that his complaint about the egregious posting was warranted, at the same time it felt a bit like he was exaggerating his reaction. Maybe to gain a bunch of cheap cred with those insulted.
Should be an interesting angle to revisit at some point. Dont worry i wont be advocating a lynch on you in ANY case (while i think you could be mafia) here. You will live to see D2. You read it here folx, rayn is actively trying to protect mafia Vivax from the lynch. I think this is where rayn fucked up ladies and gentlemen. Until now his play could be classified as stubborn town, this post right here proves that he's actively trying to harm town, removing the stubborn town possibility entirely because townRayn would never ever not lynch Vivax if he thinks he's mafia if the lynch is viable in this situation. FUCKING GOTTEEEEEEEEMMMMM Actively harm town my ass, all you even had was your read based on Vivax interactions with mebaby, where your town read marv had already agreed with me your read is not necessarily true. And that immediately translates to rayn is mafia? And after that all, you have to come and call me all kind of things and try making it look i am somehow offending you? I came to this game to play a nice game of mafia, you're ruining it. Sadly i don't even know if you're doing it because you're mafia or just an ass right now... You're the one getting personal and calling people bad. I could be wrong about your intentions, because I'm fucking town and I don't know your alignment. But you're calling me bad which applies regardless of my alignment. Fuck you rayn. You're not going to gaslight me into thinking I'm doing anything wrong here, you're the one with a bad fucking attitude because I DARE question you. I'm playing the game. Maybe you don't like how I'm doing it, but I'm doing it. I'm not ruining shit. I never called you "all kinds of things" I said it was like I was playing with newbie rayn because it felt like you aren't considering simple shit that WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS GAMES/POSTGAMES. And I did that ONE time. I'm not being mean to you or being offensive or anything like that. Maybe my reads are offensive to you. Maybe you dislike my reasoning. You were right that the Vivax read was wrong. Was it bad? Maybe. Maybe not. With a sample size of 2 I guess we'll find out eventually. So you're either trying to gaslight me intentionally because you're fucking mafia, or you're actually so full of yourself as town that you literally think anyone who has a different opinion from you is bad at the game. I'm going to be honest, I think maybe you're just town and a fucking dick. This brovado feels empty to me. Like VE is saying what he feels he should be saying, not what he thinks. I mean, I thought it, I typed it then I posted it. I guess it's up to you whether I should be saying it or not. I'm pretty sure your slot is town, why aren't you voting for Chezinu with me?
This is an example of ME being intentionally obtuse for those watching at home.
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On May 27 2023 08:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm pretty sure your slot is town, why aren't you voting for Chezinu with me?
Because he thinks youre mafia, did your brain die again?
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My issue with Marv wasn't that I thought he was red, it's that people thought he was green for no reason. So in pursuing that line, it was more about investigating* a situation than a person (*I'm not claiming blue).
I'm currently light green on Marv, he seems to have picked up a bit day 2 and there is widespread agreement that this is his town meta. You're my top town read even if we're butting heads over dumb shit.
Can I ask what sort of player vivax was? Was he someone who took pride in the chaos he sewed?
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On May 27 2023 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 08:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm pretty sure your slot is town, why aren't you voting for Chezinu with me? Because he thinks youre mafia, did your brain die again?
He thinks I /could/ be mafia. Either/or with DP or something. And Chez is loads worse looking than either of us. It's a reasonable question, asked reasonably. You could try not being a jerk for one post.
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I have no idea why a town VE is fixating on trolls or expecting other people to fixate on trolls with him.
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On May 27 2023 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me  I keep going back to this because i can't understand why (especially) a newbie makes this post with having LS as town when at this point LS has both of her scumreads as town.
Do you want to revisit DMB today rayn?
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On May 27 2023 08:57 TankTopTiger wrote:
My issue with Marv wasn't that I thought he was red, it's that people thought he was green for no reason. So in pursuing that line, it was more about investigating* a situation than a person (*I'm not claiming blue).
I'm currently light green on Marv, he seems to have picked up a bit day 2 and there is widespread agreement that this is his town meta. You're my top town read even if we're butting heads over dumb shit.
Can I ask what sort of player vivax was? Was he someone who took pride in the chaos he sewed?
Not generally, as I recall Vivax tended to post mostly reasonably as either alignment. He might have been showing off for his friend or something this game.
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On May 27 2023 08:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
I have no idea why a town VE is fixating on trolls or expecting other people to fixate on trolls with him.
Chezinu isn't a troll, he's a player like any other with just as much chance drawing mafia as the rest of us, and what he chooses to do in the game whether scrutable to you or not could be alignment indicative. Like everyone else. I talk about Chez because I like Chez and I find I can read him fairly well.
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On May 27 2023 09:00 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me I keep going back to this because i can't understand why (especially) a newbie makes this post with having LS as town when at this point LS has both of her scumreads as town. Do you want to revisit DMB today rayn?
I sort of think with all the host stuff about not knowing how the setup works it’s borderline… um… “unbelievably unsportsmanlike” if DMB is not town
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On May 27 2023 09:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 09:00 marvellosity wrote:On May 27 2023 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me I keep going back to this because i can't understand why (especially) a newbie makes this post with having LS as town when at this point LS has both of her scumreads as town. Do you want to revisit DMB today rayn? I sort of think with all the host stuff about not knowing how the setup works it’s borderline… um… “unbelievably unsportsmanlike” if DMB is not town
This. Meat is town and we should just not fucking talk about it.
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On May 27 2023 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 08:20 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 27 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 27 2023 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:TTT is town he actually thinking about the game although in a different manner but at least he trying to get solid reads for himself and move the thread a bit. Onegu is null leaning town? As town he is proud of his reads even on Day 1 and did try to get Rayn to follow him on VE Day 1 before he disappeared. Chez is null I didn't like how he pretty much RNG his vote between MZ and Vivax (both flipped town) but outside of that he been pretty trolly at parts like I remember him doing as town. Slam is null he being a bit more serious than i ever remember i don't know if it's alignment indicative or not but he also being weird towards Chez which idk what to make of it. DP is mafia he been tunneling me all game and refused to reevaluate in fact he did this: On May 26 2023 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
LS why do you think Koshi was killed? for why I thought Koshi was killed when I posted why I thought he was killed. here: On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there) Which he did reply to my post here: On May 26 2023 11:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there) You realize that both wagons being town substantially changes things, right? dmb is mafia she went balls to walls on Vivax starting here: On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them. and continued here: On May 23 2023 19:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
Vivax are you scared to write something? and tried to act confident on lynching him here: On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 20:08 Vivax wrote:On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax has your friend played previously? She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point. Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases. I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance. I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too she continued for several posts and then later posted this gem: On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
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Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me When Onegu, Chez, and Sent haven't posted in the thread (Sent being replaced later on in Night 1) as well wanted to lynch Onegu for being lurker (When more likely could of been modkilled or replaced if he haven't posted heck there were several people who weren't in the game when she voted Onegu.) In fact she also tried to push marv out of fear of him being mafia even though she was super paranoid of his scum game? She ended up voting Vivax and had her vote stay there thus we lynched Vivax. I think she is stuck now after that lynch because she is mafia who is running out of options. Rayn is town he didn't try to do any sort of trap play like he did in XXX night of debauchery and been actively solving the game in a way I expected him to as town. Marv is town I know he was given a bunch of shit but he would of had only 2 page filter as mafia at this point knowing him and how I dealt with mafia Marv but he been trying to solve the game whenever he was around through his own methods. VE is null yes he improved a bit after my initial reads post but then he lynched the doctor Day 1 idk if I feel about him after that. First of all sorry for being so inactive was celebrating my bd and had to work with hangover. At the begining i made two mistake, First one was considering of privat thoughts that V is mafia. Already told why and i am sorry for that was a big mistake. Can explain again if you want to. Second mistake i went was this list. Did´t check it perfectly as i should. Third thing was I didn´t know that the roles get automaticly to the players and that they are not selced. So for me was the message Your are Vanilla Town like 100 % sure. I am sorry for not knowing that, so I was writing here with so much conifdence because of that I thought you all know that the newbe only can be town... Big mistake as well For now i make a new list with my thoughts 1) TankTopTiger Town, because he came here and the way he writes and thinks is like other than the other players here but makes me sure for Town. 2) Alakaslam No opinen right now, but more like town 3) Chezinu Town 4) Vivax lynched day 1. Sorry baby for voting on you for privat thoughts 5) LightningStrike Town (for now) 6) DarthPunk Could be mafia. Maybe him or marv but not both. They are not in the same boat 7) Onegu not activ, what should I say about it 8) Koshi killed night 1 sorry but told he is town 9) die_meatbaby doesn´t matter because you all have to make your own opinen about me, even if it seems bad for me right now 10) raynpelikoneet def Mafia At the D1 i was writing V and you are Mafia. You where pissed and tried to protect your self. Few hours before the voting was ending. I made a post where I said I would change my mind on you but not on V. After this you made an fucking importent and smart post. "Onegu is perfoming to strong for being Town and Vivax is to less paronied for being Town." This changed like everything. I was pointing out that you where just writing my thougths of V. THAT WAS MY ONLY REASON OF THINKING V WAS M (big mistake and sorry for all my Townies. I learn from mistake. Thats life) I didn´t want to leek a private thing about that Paronied stuff of V. At this point VE was tryieng to get votes on V only on V. This makes me so fucking suspicious. Like this was a perfectly played move from you and VE. Just amzing. At this point after Voting I just saw what you two where doeing here. The fact that you two played this so perfectly fascinated me. Atm I realesd with how much effort you all play and how fucking accurate i have to be here. How accurate i should read the posts here. This game is def. more harder than I ever thought. This point made me realse that I shouldn´t just write my thoughts. I have do do more. Have to think things more through than I ever did in my life. 11) Meapak_Ziphh killed night 1 Sorry for saying you where m 12) marvellosity Also could be both he write in like a save way but wouldn´t vote on him right know not sure if he is with VE and Rayn in the MPG (Mafia Pussy Gang) 13) VisceraEyes 1000000% Mafia. Like nothing else. On D1 one I did make a list like this in made mistake because of not controlling everything and didn´t put much efford in it. Mistakes make people seem like mafia. Big mistake from me again. He answering on Koshi who where on this point like i am mafia and i already got 3 votes on me at this point on my first day, also birthday and first game. He tried to protect me. for Towns who thought of mafia on me. He got weak. He had compassion on me. Wrote under my post "Guys you can´t make vote on this..." Still thanks for protecting me at this moment, because as mafia you realized what beginner mistake I did and had pity on me. Nice but big mistake from you. protecting a new girl is nice but still not good for you Mafiastatus @raynpelikoneet @VisceraEyes I would like to see a anwer from both of you I think you should be voting for Chezinu instead of me. That's my answer. You literally didn't have anything for me to respond to.
Ahhhhh but why is Chez the best lynch out of everyone left  I don’t like it!
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On May 27 2023 08:57 TankTopTiger wrote:
Can I ask what sort of player vivax was? Was he someone who took pride in the chaos he sewed?
I am not sure what you are asking. I think vivax is pretty easy to figure out as mafia when he is mafia on day 1. In my opinion he picks up things in thread that dont have anything to do with finding mafia (i mean like he can be talking about stock market or whatever shit when he is mafia lol). The problem was that mebaby went full ham on him for basically no reason, and because of how people tend to act -> Vivax just kept on answering her accusations (while useless) and did nothing else. I talked about it in my post to mebaby here:
On May 25 2023 02:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On Vivax your read has apparently changed to that he is not posting while being here. In fact Vivax has made probably as much posts as you have, and truth to be told he is mostly addressing you or answering you in his posts. I don't find that scummy at all, since people tend to react when they are called mafia, and try to argue their way out of the accusation regardless of if they are town or mafia, actually even more likely when they are town, since they know they are wrongfully accused of something.
Right now nobody agrees with your reasoning on Vivax being mafia regardless of what they think of Vivax' affiliation. What you are doing, and have been doing pretty much the whole game, is trying to convince Vivax of Vivax being mafia. Can you see how counter-productive that is if youre town? Do you think Vivax agrees he is mafia if you tell it to him over and over again or what's your angle there?
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If you are town, i suggest -- as marv said already -- you start elaborating on how you came to the conclusions you have come to more clearly. Stop talking to Vivax, and talk to other people. If you really genuinely think Vivax is mafia and you are so sure of it as you have expressed in the thread, try some reading, think about what you post, and try to find a way to express yourself better. As i said, and as many have said, right now you're not doing any good job there. Worst case scenario is that you're town and Vivax is mafia and you're just giving him a legit reason to post (nonsense) stuff that looks like he is contributing, because when you two fight in the thread, so far he's coming out looking way better than you are.
There is probably the fact also that he was blue, so he was more cautious to voice his opinion(s) for staying alive longer in the game. Might have clouded at least my judgement a little bit since i have a very hard time remembering when i have thought Vivax is mafia after half past D1 when he is town and not blue.
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I think if VE is green, then red DP knew he was green when he switched, and trusted VE to make a big enough mess to get lynched for it before DP. In that scenario, DP also expected MZ to be alive (and directed vig attention at lurkers), which means that after hammering the mislynch, DP would have two days of mess before the lynchmob came for him.
So to me, lynching VE also gives me a read on DP, who I know I will otherwise struggle with.
Add to that that VE did blind lead a mob on a townie, has generally felt fake for a long time, seems to want to put attention on lurkers/trolls - VE is my top lynch for today by a pretty decent margin.
##: vote VisceraEyes
I'm going to a lunch, I'll be back later before the lynch. I don't really see myself changing my mind on this, but hey surprises happen.
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On May 27 2023 08:26 TankTopTiger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2023 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off.
Yeah he said this. Unfortunately this should hold no relevance because the situation has changed drastically after Vivax flips town. Why does mafia!marv make "bad posts" about Meapak if there is no relevance on who gets lynched, hell he doesn't even need to push Meapak lynch. He still reads Koshi and rayn town in the same post. He indentifies us three (and DP) as town leaders, regardless of if that's true or not. Like with this information alone he SHOULD be considering Meapak's alignment again, before doing anything else. "Who i got a town read off" is not really anything, the read should be REALLY in depth considering three people who he thinks are town leaders voted for the guy, and one didn't (and was wrong). This is I think a place I can make my perspective clearer. I acknowledge that people respect you four, but that doesn't mean I respect your authority. I'm not here to fall in line, I don't see that as playing the game at all. So I can be aware of the influence you people have while being dismissive of accepting that influence myself. So basically, if you want to change my mind, it needs to be because of what you say, not who you are. In my mind it's actually insane how much people sheep considering that alignment is RNGed at the start of the game.
I don’t want you to accept my authority (I really don’t), I just want you to see that I’m really trying to solve the game. And, even though I still don’t really know who I’m lynching tomorrow, if you read my filter I’d be super surprised that you don’t think I’m trying to figure out the game.
I read and evaluate any case that’s made here. If you got a scorcher, I’m all ears
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On May 27 2023 09:00 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
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Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me I keep going back to this because i can't understand why (especially) a newbie makes this post with having LS as town when at this point LS has both of her scumreads as town. Do you want to revisit DMB today rayn?
no. but if i had a bullet i would shoot her anyways because she is basically +1 mafia atm.
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By the way, and I don’t think this fairly obvious point has been made yet?
Vivax is a terrible day 1 lynch if his filter is okay, as if he is mafia bud filter is gonna quickly deteriorate. If VE is town, lynching Vivax D1 is a huge blunder.
If VE is mafia, lynching Vivax day 1 is the only chance he’s gonna get…
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Afk again, sorry for the hit and run
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If vivax was someone who prided themselves in being discordant, I can imagine them having put those ideas in MB's head, offering some support for the notion that MB is an overperforming red noobie. But if that's not the case, I find it difficult to imagine they would go all-out like this on their first game without anyone influencing their approach in that direction.
IIRC, at some point Vivax said they were "being more insane than even them" which sounds like what someone who otherwise plays a trolly style would say.
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