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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2023 00:14 GMT
#1861
So if i am right and rayn/marv/Slem/Chez/DMB/TTT are town and noone fucks up we win?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 27 2023 00:15 GMT
#1862
On May 27 2023 09:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2023 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 27 2023 08:20 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 27 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 27 2023 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
TTT is town he actually thinking about the game although in a different manner but at least he trying to get solid reads for himself and move the thread a bit.
Onegu is null leaning town? As town he is proud of his reads even on Day 1 and did try to get Rayn to follow him on VE Day 1 before he disappeared.
Chez is null I didn't like how he pretty much RNG his vote between MZ and Vivax (both flipped town) but outside of that he been pretty trolly at parts like I remember him doing as town.
Slam is null he being a bit more serious than i ever remember i don't know if it's alignment indicative or not but he also being weird towards Chez which idk what to make of it.
DP is mafia he been tunneling me all game and refused to reevaluate in fact he did this:
On May 26 2023 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
LS why do you think Koshi was killed?

for why I thought Koshi was killed when I posted why I thought he was killed. here:
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:
First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........

Koshi said:
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.

Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.

Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.

Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon
Look at here:
On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that.

Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.

And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake.


What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.

I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.

Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive.

I think you could be mafia.
I will never make a case on you.
I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia.
I will never respect any read you make this game.

I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)

Which he did reply to my post here:
On May 26 2023 11:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:
First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........

Koshi said:
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.

Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.

Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.

Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon
Look at here:
On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.

And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake.


What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.

I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.

Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive.

I think you could be mafia.
I will never make a case on you.
I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia.
I will never respect any read you make this game.

I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)


You realize that both wagons being town substantially changes things, right?

dmb is mafia she went balls to walls on Vivax starting here:
On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them.

and continued here:
On May 23 2023 19:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
Vivax are you scared to write something?

and tried to act confident on lynching him here:
On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:08 Vivax wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax has your friend played previously?


She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ

I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point.

Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases.

I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance.



I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day

Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too

she continued for several posts and then later posted this gem:
On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.


Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started
Alakasla // same as sentinel
Chezinu // seems like town
4) Vivax // mafia
5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town
6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet
7) Onegu // also not shure
8) Koshi // def. town
10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia
11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know
12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts)
13) VisceraEyes // town


But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me

When Onegu, Chez, and Sent haven't posted in the thread (Sent being replaced later on in Night 1)
as well wanted to lynch Onegu for being lurker (When more likely could of been modkilled or replaced if he haven't posted heck there were several people who weren't in the game when she voted Onegu.) In fact she also tried to push marv out of fear of him being mafia even though she was super paranoid of his scum game? She ended up voting Vivax and had her vote stay there thus we lynched Vivax. I think she is stuck now after that lynch because she is mafia who is running out of options.
Rayn is town he didn't try to do any sort of trap play like he did in XXX night of debauchery and been actively solving the game in a way I expected him to as town.
Marv is town I know he was given a bunch of shit but he would of had only 2 page filter as mafia at this point knowing him and how I dealt with mafia Marv but he been trying to solve the game whenever he was around through his own methods.
VE is null yes he improved a bit after my initial reads post but then he lynched the doctor Day 1 idk if I feel about him after that.




First of all sorry for being so inactive was celebrating my bd and had to work with hangover.

At the begining i made two mistake, First one was considering of privat thoughts that V is mafia. Already told why and i am sorry for that was a big mistake. Can explain again if you want to.
Second mistake i went was this list. Did´t check it perfectly as i should.
Third thing was I didn´t know that the roles get automaticly to the players and that they are not selced. So for me was the message Your are Vanilla Town like 100 % sure.
I am sorry for not knowing that, so I was writing here with so much conifdence because of that I thought you all know that the newbe only can be town... Big mistake as well

For now i make a new list with my thoughts
1) TankTopTiger
Town, because he came here and the way he writes and thinks is like other than the other players here but makes me sure for Town.
2) Alakaslam
No opinen right now, but more like town
3) Chezinu
Town
4) Vivax lynched day 1.
Sorry baby for voting on you for privat thoughts
5) LightningStrike
Town (for now)
6) DarthPunk
Could be mafia. Maybe him or marv but not both. They are not in the same boat
7) Onegu
not activ, what should I say about it
8) Koshi killed night 1
sorry but told he is town
9) die_meatbaby
doesn´t matter because you all have to make your own opinen about me, even if it seems bad for me right now
10) raynpelikoneet
def Mafia
At the D1 i was writing V and you are Mafia. You where pissed and tried to protect your self. Few hours before the voting was ending. I made a post where I said I would change my mind on you but not on V. After this you made an fucking importent and smart post.
"Onegu is perfoming to strong for being Town and Vivax is to less paronied for being Town."
This changed like everything. I was pointing out that you where just writing my thougths of V. THAT WAS MY ONLY REASON OF THINKING V WAS M (big mistake and sorry for all my Townies. I learn from mistake. Thats life) I didn´t want to leek a private thing about that Paronied stuff of V. At this point VE was tryieng to get votes on V only on V. This makes me so fucking suspicious. Like this was a perfectly played move from you and VE. Just amzing. At this point after Voting I just saw what you two where doeing here. The fact that you two played this so perfectly fascinated me. Atm I realesd with how much effort you all play and how fucking accurate i have to be here. How accurate i should read the posts here. This game is def. more harder than I ever thought. This point made me realse that I shouldn´t just write my thoughts. I have do do more. Have to think things more through than I ever did in my life.
11) Meapak_Ziphh killed night 1
Sorry for saying you where m
12) marvellosity
Also could be both he write in like a save way but wouldn´t vote on him right know not sure if he is with VE and Rayn in the MPG (Mafia Pussy Gang)
13) VisceraEyes
1000000% Mafia. Like nothing else. On D1 one I did make a list like this in made mistake because of not controlling everything and didn´t put much efford in it. Mistakes make people seem like mafia. Big mistake from me again. He answering on Koshi who where on this point like i am mafia and i already got 3 votes on me at this point on my first day, also birthday and first game. He tried to protect me. for Towns who thought of mafia on me. He got weak. He had compassion on me. Wrote under my post "Guys you can´t make vote on this..." Still thanks for protecting me at this moment, because as mafia you realized what beginner mistake I did and had pity on me. Nice but big mistake from you. protecting a new girl is nice but still not good for you Mafiastatus

@raynpelikoneet @VisceraEyes I would like to see a anwer from both of you

I think you should be voting for Chezinu instead of me. That's my answer. You literally didn't have anything for me to respond to.

Ahhhhh but why is Chez the best lynch out of everyone left I don’t like it!

Because he's a blue sniper and was super late to the Vivax wagon. He's done nothing, he hasn't read, he has given no reads, the only content he has is that he likes LS reads post, ONE of LS reads post, no analysis of LS previous posts or how the reads line up with previous reads. It's scummy as sin! I have no idea what he thinks about anyone! I don't even know why he's voting for Onegu, WHO LS DIDN'T EVEN MENTION IN HIS POST

He's the best because we've got nothing better. I'm in here trying to play and trying to lynch mafia. Don't lynch me. I know I'm probably the most attractive candidate.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2023 00:19 GMT
#1863
Why isn't mr Onegu any better? After all he voted for you D1 and that should rustle your jimmies but for some reason it doesn't?
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
May 27 2023 00:24 GMT
#1864
Day two Vote Count

Onegu (1): Chezinu, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (1): die_meatbaby
LightningStrike (1): DarthPunk
Chezinu (1): VisceraEyes
DarthPunk (1): LightningStrike

Not Voting (5) : TankTopTiger, Alakaslam, Onegu, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity

With 1 vote, Onegu is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Sunday, May 28 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2023 00:27 GMT
#1865
On May 27 2023 09:07 TankTopTiger wrote:
##: vote VisceraEyes

btw there is a voting thread you have to vote in for your vote to count.
Imo it's good to post your vote in this thread also for clarity, if youre town that is.
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 27 2023 00:32 GMT
#1866
Fixed, thanks. VE now in the lead.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 27 2023 00:34 GMT
#1867
On May 27 2023 09:13 TankTopTiger wrote:
If vivax was someone who prided themselves in being discordant, I can imagine them having put those ideas in MB's head, offering some support for the notion that MB is an overperforming red noobie. But if that's not the case, I find it difficult to imagine they would go all-out like this on their first game without anyone influencing their approach in that direction.

IIRC, at some point Vivax said they were "being more insane than even them" which sounds like what someone who otherwise plays a trolly style would say.


I am not talking to V in RL about the game. Against the rules. Till now we are not talking about it till now and till the game ends or I am lynched or dead. I am not being influenced from him. Fair play only.
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 27 2023 00:34 GMT
#1868
On May 27 2023 09:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So if i am right and rayn/marv/Slem/Chez/DMB/TTT are town and noone fucks up we win?


Not trying to attack, but that's the biggest if I've ever seen, and winning doesn't necessarily follow from your personal reads.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2023 00:35 GMT
#1869
On May 27 2023 09:34 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2023 09:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So if i am right and rayn/marv/Slem/Chez/DMB/TTT are town and noone fucks up we win?


Not trying to attack, but that's the biggest if I've ever seen, and winning doesn't necessarily follow from your personal reads.

I think all of these people are town. I also have no doubt if i am right certain people here are gonna fuck up possibly
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2023 00:37 GMT
#1870
That was just for bragging rights to Koshi after game
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 27 2023 00:37 GMT
#1871
On May 27 2023 09:34 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2023 09:13 TankTopTiger wrote:
If vivax was someone who prided themselves in being discordant, I can imagine them having put those ideas in MB's head, offering some support for the notion that MB is an overperforming red noobie. But if that's not the case, I find it difficult to imagine they would go all-out like this on their first game without anyone influencing their approach in that direction.

IIRC, at some point Vivax said they were "being more insane than even them" which sounds like what someone who otherwise plays a trolly style would say.


I am not talking to V in RL about the game. Against the rules. Till now we are not talking about it till now and till the game ends or I am lynched or dead. I am not being influenced from him. Fair play only.


I meant when he was describing the game etc. to you.

DP has talked to me about the game before, and this included some bragging about all the BS he's pulled off. If I was a different sort of person, I might be inspired to think that pulling the biggest BS would be a fun way to approach the game and cause a lot of chaos.

So I'm not saying he exerted influence over you during the game, just that he helped frame your understanding of what the game was like when he was selling you on the idea of it. But it doesn't matter, the question deadended.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2023 00:40 GMT
#1872
In all seriousness, where i am right now is we are looking at a team with VE/Onegu/LS or DP, i would put LS higher up on being mafia than DP.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2023 00:41 GMT
#1873
##vote VisceraEyes
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 27 2023 00:43 GMT
#1874
I don't think redDP hammers the vote D1 if redVE led it.

When MB talked about the host assigning roles, people told them it was RNG. But Marv said it would be unsportsmanlike to make MB red.

I work under the assumption that they use RNG, but then probably veto particularly unbalanced results. Is that a fair assessment?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 27 2023 00:44 GMT
#1875
And if it is a fair assessment, is it then fair to say that among DP, Koshi, Marv, Rayn, there should be at least one mafia for balance reasons?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2023 00:51 GMT
#1876
setup is fully randomised. marv didn't say that, and DMB is mistaken.
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 27 2023 00:54 GMT
#1877
On May 27 2023 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2023 09:00 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2023 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.


Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started
Alakasla // same as sentinel
Chezinu // seems like town
4) Vivax // mafia
5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town
6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet
7) Onegu // also not shure
8) Koshi // def. town
10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia
11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know
12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts)
13) VisceraEyes // town


But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me

I keep going back to this because i can't understand why (especially) a newbie makes this post with having LS as town when at this point LS has both of her scumreads as town.

Do you want to revisit DMB today rayn?

I sort of think with all the host stuff about not knowing how the setup works it’s borderline… um… “unbelievably unsportsmanlike” if DMB is not town


Sorry, what does this mean then? Unsportsmanlike RNG? I'm confused.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2023 00:56 GMT
#1878
On May 27 2023 09:54 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2023 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2023 09:00 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2023 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.


Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started
Alakasla // same as sentinel
Chezinu // seems like town
4) Vivax // mafia
5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town
6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet
7) Onegu // also not shure
8) Koshi // def. town
10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia
11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know
12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts)
13) VisceraEyes // town


But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me

I keep going back to this because i can't understand why (especially) a newbie makes this post with having LS as town when at this point LS has both of her scumreads as town.

Do you want to revisit DMB today rayn?

I sort of think with all the host stuff about not knowing how the setup works it’s borderline… um… “unbelievably unsportsmanlike” if DMB is not town


Sorry, what does this mean then? Unsportsmanlike RNG? I'm confused.

He is saying he thinks DMB is town because it would be borderline cheating to lie about the setup stuff like "why would host make me mafia because i am newbie" as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2023 00:57 GMT
#1879
Like 100% certain this setup is fully rng'd.
I wouldn't have played any game for the past 10 years or so if i didn't know hosts fully rng the setup.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2023 01:00 GMT
#1880
On May 27 2023 09:43 TankTopTiger wrote:
I don't think redDP hammers the vote D1 if redVE led it.

Why not? Knowing Meapak is town why does it matter if they are on the same wagon or not, they are equally "wrong" anyways.
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