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A Public Service Announcement From VisceraEyes
I apologize one and all for leading the town to this tragedy, but we press on.
Obviously everyone on the Vivax lynch is in the hot seat. I led the lynch but because I'll be doing my utmost to figure this shitshow I created out, I'll go ahead and hope to not be the lynch D2. So that leaves meat, DP, MZ, Slam and Chez up for lynch today fmp.
I'm probably going to start by advocating for a Chez/Onegu lynch. I understand an 11th hour shenanigans, it's good wholesome fun. But then both did like literally nothing over the night-phase? Chez could even be seen as an attractive night-kill if you squint. Anyway I certainly like it more than a busy-body DP or a (admittedly waning) townread MZ lynch. Slam is.....slam. I feel like slam could always be called a coinflip. There could be something there though, I'm going to spend the rest of the night filtering. He's on the list.
It seems likely or even probable that there are 2-3 mafia inside the Vivax lynch, but that math is skewed a bit if MZ is also town. Then they could be anywhere and have literally anything in mind. If MZ is town even the town leaders on HIS lynch could be mafia. I..........don't want to live in this world. But circumstances force me to consider it. I'll leave it for another day - or when someone asks I guess.
The important thing to remember going forward is that this is NOT over. We will NOT give up. We will NOT surrender our town to the red menace. We will NOT simply roll over and let this scourge cow us into complacency.
THIS
IS
LIQUIDIA
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Hypocritical how? Because I haven't done anything this night-phase?
I meant THEY look bad for not doing anything overnight because they didn't do anything OVER THE DAY. I did a lot of stuff over the day, haven't I fucking done enough for 1 cycle?
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On May 26 2023 10:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2023 10:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hypocritical how? Because I haven't done anything this night-phase?
I meant THEY look bad for not doing anything overnight because they didn't do anything OVER THE DAY. I did a lot of stuff over the day, haven't I fucking done enough for 1 cycle? Yeah we lynched the fucking doctor. Pretty fantastic aren't we.
I imagine D2 is going to be A FUCKING LOT of DP and VE filtering and giving our opinions so we aren't the lynch. If you're mafia I look forward to sweating alongside the enemy lmao
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Yo the bravado and absolute certainty ABSOLUTELY ARE a bit, but it's not alignment indicative, it's just the only way to get anything done around here. I'm not mafia, I've just played this game quite a bit and know what gets results. It's a very Palmaresque way to play.
That said, I definitely was that sure about Vivax. I was just wrong. I factored in my own experience too much into the read, I can own that.
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DP I'm going to be honest with you - I have no fucking idea. It's like I said before the flip - if MZ is town too then that means who is on what wagon when is utterly meaningless. Mafia could have flowed freely from one to another and it make no difference to them. MZ flipping green actually helps MAFIA more than it helps us.
I want to say that mafia are in the lurker class because I'm so fucked up right now, but that feels like a copout. That just tends to be the case when a game is so fucking hard like this. It's actually WHY I advocate lurker lynches early, but I digress. I'm looking at Onegus and LSes and Chezes like I was before the flip I think. While keeping an eye to active players not making any sense.
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On May 26 2023 11:36 Chezinu wrote:
Dear Town,
I hope this letter finds you in good health and high spirits. I wanted to take a moment to express my admiration for your unique ability to remain blissfully unaware of the true identities of the Mafia players in our thrilling game of TL Mafia. Your unwavering dedication to preserving the suspense and mystery is truly remarkable.
Throughout our countless rounds of this enthralling game, I have witnessed your unwavering commitment to the role of the innocent townsfolk. It is awe-inspiring to see how you navigate the complexities of the game with such innocence and naiveté. While others may tirelessly analyze every word and action, desperately seeking out the Mafia members, you bring a refreshing perspective by embracing the element of surprise.
Your inability to discern the true intentions of your fellow players is a testament to your authenticity and genuine nature. In a world filled with suspicion and hidden agendas, your trust in others serves as a shining example. Your approach brings an unpredictable dynamic to the game, keeping us all on the edge of our seats and ensuring that each round is an exhilarating experience.
I must admit, town, your unique talent has often left me astounded. Your unwavering belief in the guilt of the innocent ones around you has led to unexpected twists and turns, leading us all on an exciting journey of discovery. Your ability to maintain this blissful ignorance, even when faced with mounting evidence, is truly commendable.
Beyond the confines of the game, your genuine personality shines through. Your unwavering trust and open-heartedness make you a remarkable friend. In a world that can sometimes be filled with cynicism and doubt, your outlook is a breath of fresh air. Your presence brings joy and laughter to our gatherings, and your ability to create a lighthearted atmosphere is cherished by all.
So, dear town, I wanted to take this opportunity to express my deepest appreciation for your incredible ability not to understand which players in our Liquidia are the Mafia. Your genuine nature, unwavering trust, and infectious laughter make our experiences all the more memorable and enjoyable.
May you continue to embrace the game with your unique perspective, bringing surprise and delight to all those who have the pleasure of playing alongside you. Thank you for being an exceptional friend and a constant source of entertainment.
With heartfelt admiration and warm regards,
Yourself, cause it is good to be positive
You truly are an angel AND a demon aren't you? Like, simultaneously I mean.
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On May 26 2023 12:05 Chezinu wrote:I was chatting with GPT about the game and then asked GPT said: Show nested quote +Based on a random selection excluding Chezinu, let's consider lynching DarthPunk. Please note that this is a random choice and not based on any specific information or analysis. Lynching decisions should ideally be based on a thorough examination of player interactions, voting patterns, and other relevant factors.
I.....I don't believe this occurred. I think you very accurately through your own experimentation are MIMICKING AI THAT IS MIMICKING US to give us your read. Is this the case? Or did you really just let ChatGPT pretendRNG and then relay that to us?
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On May 26 2023 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2023 23:37 marvellosity wrote:On May 26 2023 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i am even entertaining to lynch LS just because if he flips mafia then i don't have to think about DP anymore. I don't think he is bussing. I don’t agree, if they are both maf I can absolutely see him bussing. Why do you think otherwise? idk why he should do that? Killing Koshi kind of works here, but like... DP started the bus (if that's what it is) when there was no real lynch candidate (aside from mebaby). I don't think it's the correct play there as mafia, since there is no way to predict where the thread sentiment for town ends up on.
Isn't there, rayn? Isn't there? I seem to recall someone being able to predict where thread sentiment was heading YESTERDAY, when someone led the lynch from MZ to the DOCTOR, and I don't even have extra info. You think that someone with extra info would be unable to not only better sense thread sentiment, but be in a position to manipulate it?
Like...I've been pretty townie on DP but clearing him because he tried tried to lynch someone "when there is no lynch candidate" feels.....again, like you're being intentionally obtuse. It feels like I'm playing with rayn ON HIS FIRST EVER GAME. AWWWWWWW NEWBIE RAYN!!!!
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On May 26 2023 23:47 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2023 23:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 26 2023 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 26 2023 23:37 marvellosity wrote:On May 26 2023 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i am even entertaining to lynch LS just because if he flips mafia then i don't have to think about DP anymore. I don't think he is bussing. I don’t agree, if they are both maf I can absolutely see him bussing. Why do you think otherwise? idk why he should do that? Killing Koshi kind of works here, but like... DP started the bus (if that's what it is) when there was no real lynch candidate (aside from mebaby). I don't think it's the correct play there as mafia, since there is no way to predict where the thread sentiment for town ends up on. Isn't there, rayn? Isn't there? I seem to recall someone being able to predict where thread sentiment was heading YESTERDAY, when someone led the lynch from MZ to the DOCTOR, and I don't even have extra info. You think that someone with extra info would be unable to not only better sense thread sentiment, but be in a position to manipulate it? Like...I've been pretty townie on DP but clearing him because he tried tried to lynch someone "when there is no lynch candidate" feels.....again, like you're being intentionally obtuse. It feels like I'm playing with rayn ON HIS FIRST EVER GAME. AWWWWWWW NEWBIE RAYN!!!! What are you actually trying to say here?
That this clearing DP over LS is LUDAAA
I'm not even that sus of DP but I'm fairly certain DP would bus fuckin URYBODY, regardless of circumstances. He's a fearless player like me.
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I want to vote off the scummiest player on the Vivax lynch (that's not me). Currently Chezinu is in the lead, but that's only because I think fingering 1gu right now would smack of OMGUS.
##Vote: Chezinu
But 1gu sus too.
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My reasoning on why the Vivax lynch - from my perspective the only reason mafia would prefer one lynch vs another is if they had a blue read on one vs another. It's entirely possible that mafia joined the Vivax wagon because they had a blue read on him, and Chezinu is a NOTORIOUS blue sniper.
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On May 27 2023 01:48 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 01:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want to vote off the scummiest player on the Vivax lynch (that's not me). Currently Chezinu is in the lead, but that's only because I think fingering 1gu right now would smack of OMGUS.
##Vote: Chezinu
But 1gu sus too. Dammit I understand this too much. Because I think VE doesn't know Chez. Chez is town, I swear it but I bet you have a mild SR on me too. Well, hopefully your town cred is all in the can by now and you can't pull this off.
Chez is a NOTORIOUS blue sniper. Slam listen to reason, it all makes perfect sense. Lay it out in front of you, like sticks in a youth puzzle of yore.
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On May 27 2023 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:TTT is town he actually thinking about the game although in a different manner but at least he trying to get solid reads for himself and move the thread a bit. Onegu is null leaning town? As town he is proud of his reads even on Day 1 and did try to get Rayn to follow him on VE Day 1 before he disappeared. Chez is null I didn't like how he pretty much RNG his vote between MZ and Vivax (both flipped town) but outside of that he been pretty trolly at parts like I remember him doing as town. Slam is null he being a bit more serious than i ever remember i don't know if it's alignment indicative or not but he also being weird towards Chez which idk what to make of it. DP is mafia he been tunneling me all game and refused to reevaluate in fact he did this: for why I thought Koshi was killed when I posted why I thought he was killed. here: Show nested quote +On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there) Which he did reply to my post here: Show nested quote +On May 26 2023 11:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there) You realize that both wagons being town substantially changes things, right? dmb is mafia she went balls to walls on Vivax starting here: Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them. and continued here: Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
Vivax are you scared to write something? and tried to act confident on lynching him here: Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 20:08 Vivax wrote:On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax has your friend played previously? She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point. Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases. I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance. I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too she continued for several posts and then later posted this gem: Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me  When Onegu, Chez, and Sent haven't posted in the thread (Sent being replaced later on in Night 1) as well wanted to lynch Onegu for being lurker (When more likely could of been modkilled or replaced if he haven't posted heck there were several people who weren't in the game when she voted Onegu.) In fact she also tried to push marv out of fear of him being mafia even though she was super paranoid of his scum game? She ended up voting Vivax and had her vote stay there thus we lynched Vivax. I think she is stuck now after that lynch because she is mafia who is running out of options. Rayn is town he didn't try to do any sort of trap play like he did in XXX night of debauchery and been actively solving the game in a way I expected him to as town. Marv is town I know he was given a bunch of shit but he would of had only 2 page filter as mafia at this point knowing him and how I dealt with mafia Marv but he been trying to solve the game whenever he was around through his own methods. VE is null yes he improved a bit after my initial reads post but then he lynched the doctor Day 1 idk if I feel about him after that.
This........looks townie to me. I'm open to alternative interpretations though.
I think I agree on marv. This feels like hands off data collecty town marv - active enough to have a filter you don't REALLY want to read in full.
I don't know if I agree on rayn. His cementing his vote to me in the context of everything makes little sense, but I get being burned out after last cycle. I think regardless of my read on him I'm not interested in lynching him today. If he's mafia, meh. If he's town then mafia will probably kill him sooner rather than later. YOU HEAR THAT MAFIA? IF RAYN IS TOWN AND ALIVE D3 YOU'RE FUCKING UP!
I'm not sure what to think of DP - he's skillful enough to look just like this as mafia, but he FEELS really townie to me. I don't know if it's because we're basically seeing the same game so far or what, but I WANT him to be town. At the very least I think I'm not interested in lynching him today? He definitely came and XO'd the Vivax lynch when I needed it, so I think I'm giving him a D2 pass.
TTT is, I think, town. Everything he's posted since joining just reeks of figuring out the game. If I wasn't one of his top lynches I'd probably be sheeping him.
I haven't played much with Slam since he's made the jump to actually playing a scrutible game. He seems reasonable, is that a tell? Does he do that more often as one alignment or another? Is this just the way he plays now? Based on his content I'd say I've got him greenish brown. Like baby poop. Kinda unhealthy baby poop.
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@Meaty baby I think you should vote for Chez this round - it has the highest chances of flipping mafia. He's only come in here to sheep onto the doctor and taunt the town. I honestly think he's mafia styling on us.
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On May 27 2023 02:31 marvellosity wrote:
Why would supporting you on Vivax lynch make DP more townie?
Because he's seeing the same game as me, I honestly was sure Vivax was mafia and he didn't just sheep me, he came in and pushed it over. Mafia DP would've just sheeped me no? Let me take the fall alone for the mislynch?
It doesn't to you. It does to me. If that makes sense.
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I think it's something like Chez Onegu (insert wrong VE townread here)
I really don't want that last one to be DP but concede that it's a possibility.
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yo wtf how does rayn go from
On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked.
to
On May 27 2023 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk i am almost done with VE and voting him no matter what..
it's just too bad at the moment, i need a break.
like I don't even
Are you really just salty that I cucked your townie MZ lynch? Fuck off guy. I told you IN THIS THREAD that I was doing it you don't get to be mad about it because you fucked off and let me.
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That's mean, it was actually MARV'S townie MZ lynch. rayn just added his vote and authority to it.
I'm about tired of being called bad for establishing myself as innocent and getting the person lynched who I thought was the most mafia. Yall can suck the BIGGEST dick.
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On May 27 2023 03:10 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 03:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's mean, it was actually MARV'S townie MZ lynch. rayn just added his vote and authority to it.
I'm about tired of being called bad for establishing myself as innocent and getting the person lynched who I thought was the most mafia. Yall can suck the BIGGEST dick. I haven’t called you bad. But you haven’t established yourself as innocent either.
No rayn ire just gets under my skin rul bad.
I'm reading instead of typing, I've found when I type it makes shit worse. Until I read something that pisses me off like that. -.-
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On May 27 2023 03:22 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 01:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
My reasoning on why the Vivax lynch - from my perspective the only reason mafia would prefer one lynch vs another is if they had a blue read on one vs another. It's entirely possible that mafia joined the Vivax wagon because they had a blue read on him, and Chezinu is a NOTORIOUS blue sniper. Show nested quote +On May 26 2023 11:24 Chezinu wrote:
With all the blues dying, my red/blue blindness won't hurt as much.
I totes not the mafia blur sniper!
Oh well I guess since you already said it...
##uNvOtE
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