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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 16:18 GMT
#1761
On September 06 2022 01:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would mafia kill Dandel if they don't think he is blue and he is very wrong AND he is a mislynch target?
MZ?

I'm not sure I understand your question.

I get that they could have been hunting for blues but he could have just as easily been a mislynch today and they could have shot someone like you or HF.

Which when looking at dead Koshi's reads I'm starting to think that Dandel was more right than wrong.

Scum rels/scum slam also kinda works.

You entertained that Dandel was either very right or very wrong (he basically said rels is mafia and that's it lol).
You also entertained he could be mislynched easily because he was on many people's lynch list.
You didn't entertain a bluehunt scenario.

So based on this:
Dandel was on several people's scum lists. In my mind dandel either gets killed because he was very right or very wrong.

Why does Dandel get killed if he is very wrong in your mind?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 16:19 GMT
#1762
How can you think Dandel gets killed if he is very wrong (Rels) as he is always +1 vote on Rels AND a possible counter wagon / mislynch target? That doesnt make any sense at all for mafia to kill a person like that.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2022 16:19 GMT
#1763
On September 06 2022 01:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 00:59 CopCake wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 05 2022 22:15 CopCake wrote:
Jokes aside, Jock since the beginning has been trying to solve the game, even with his "spamming" questions, I know that because I tend to solve things like that plus with reactions / tone reading.
I am pretty sure I have said before that I think that Jock is town.


So who's all scum besides from me and rels in your mind?

Because I'm having a hard time seeing how someone who has been afk for the last 72 hours is trying to solve the game.


Do you think Town can give the luxury to kill someone inactive right now?

What would we win?

It is actually very scummy to go and chew someone who can't defend himself.

He is not coasting to survive, as you see, he didn't vote last day.

And I said "in the beginning" like the time he has been active he was very town.

So far I think is you/rels/hf or you/rels/matt.

Btw, live in a world in which I am town, who are the mafia?



Everything I do in your mind is scummy. I have seen scum fuck off just as much as I've seen town fuck off. Some people hate playing it.

Why is HF scum now?

In a world where you're town, it's rels/jock slam or chez.


The way he just came and say “copcake is mafia for this post only” Gave me bad vibes.

HF is a very, VERY good scum, there was a game where he played me and pocketed me and poor GB got misslynched. I got the same sensation.

But he is not my number one lynch.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 05 2022 16:21 GMT
#1764
On September 06 2022 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 01:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would mafia kill Dandel if they don't think he is blue and he is very wrong AND he is a mislynch target?
MZ?

I'm not sure I understand your question.

I get that they could have been hunting for blues but he could have just as easily been a mislynch today and they could have shot someone like you or HF.

Which when looking at dead Koshi's reads I'm starting to think that Dandel was more right than wrong.

Scum rels/scum slam also kinda works.

You entertained that Dandel was either very right or very wrong (he basically said rels is mafia and that's it lol).
You also entertained he could be mislynched easily because he was on many people's lynch list.
You didn't entertain a bluehunt scenario.

So based on this:
Show nested quote +
Dandel was on several people's scum lists. In my mind dandel either gets killed because he was very right or very wrong.

Why does Dandel get killed if he is very wrong in your mind?

Ah ok, if he's very wrong, dandel gets killed to help drive a lynch on rels, since he was screaming from the top of the tower that rels was scum. If rels is town it just helps the mislynch go a bit smoother.

But I'm not sure that dandel was wrong, especially after reading koshi.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2022 16:23 GMT
#1765
On September 06 2022 01:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would mafia kill Dandel if they don't think he is blue and he is very wrong AND he is a mislynch target?
MZ?

I'm not sure I understand your question.

I get that they could have been hunting for blues but he could have just as easily been a mislynch today and they could have shot someone like you or HF.

Which when looking at dead Koshi's reads I'm starting to think that Dandel was more right than wrong.

Scum rels/scum slam also kinda works.


Have you considered that mafia might have also killed people they dont think would be jailkeepered/doc’ed?

Not everything is for “the reads” but to fool blue roles.

That is why I have avoided to talk about them the whole game.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 16:24 GMT
#1766
On September 06 2022 01:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
if he's very wrong, dandel gets killed to help drive a lynch on rels, since he was screaming from the top of the tower that rels was scum. If rels is town it just helps the mislynch go a bit smoother.

I am trying to understand this properly... i mean from both pov. but i dont think youre representing both of them? :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 16:24 GMT
#1767
so you basically just said rels is town right?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 16:26 GMT
#1768
On September 06 2022 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so you basically just said rels is town right?

ah no nevermind... i am dumb as fuck.

But still why does mafia (assuming Dandel is town and Rels is town) take out the person who is basically +1 vote for them every single day?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 05 2022 16:28 GMT
#1769
On September 06 2022 01:23 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 01:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would mafia kill Dandel if they don't think he is blue and he is very wrong AND he is a mislynch target?
MZ?

I'm not sure I understand your question.

I get that they could have been hunting for blues but he could have just as easily been a mislynch today and they could have shot someone like you or HF.

Which when looking at dead Koshi's reads I'm starting to think that Dandel was more right than wrong.

Scum rels/scum slam also kinda works.


Have you considered that mafia might have also killed people they dont think would be jailkeepered/doc’ed?

Not everything is for “the reads” but to fool blue roles.

That is why I have avoided to talk about them the whole game.

I mean sure. I guess I'm reading through this in the lense of what I'd do as scum because I rarely see blue roles have a real impact on the game beyond an occasional hero vigi. Hence why I'm looking at the NKs as either "killed bc they were right" or "killed bc they were wrong and to mislead town"

My own biases against blue roles aside, I doubt scum are throwing away their one NK on a hail Mary to try and hit blue kills, there are probably read reasons for the kills even if they were blue hunting.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 05 2022 16:31 GMT
#1770
On September 06 2022 01:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so you basically just said rels is town right?

ah no nevermind... i am dumb as fuck.

But still why does mafia (assuming Dandel is town and Rels is town) take out the person who is basically +1 vote for them every single day?

Yeah now you see why I'm changing my mind lol. Also koshi's reads were a nice warm fuzzy to help make changing my mind easier.

Of course if rels is scum it means I completely fucked the D1 lynch with the help of slam.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 05 2022 16:32 GMT
#1771
On September 06 2022 01:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so you basically just said rels is town right?

ah no nevermind... i am dumb as fuck.

But still why does mafia (assuming Dandel is town and Rels is town) take out the person who is basically +1 vote for them every single day?

OK I read this bit some more and it has me convinced.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 16:33 GMT
#1772
On September 06 2022 01:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 01:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so you basically just said rels is town right?

ah no nevermind... i am dumb as fuck.

But still why does mafia (assuming Dandel is town and Rels is town) take out the person who is basically +1 vote for them every single day?

Yeah now you see why I'm changing my mind lol. Also koshi's reads were a nice warm fuzzy to help make changing my mind easier.

Of course if rels is scum it means I completely fucked the D1 lynch with the help of slam.

I still don't understand why you think mafia would kill Dandel for being wrong in your mind, because if Rels is town Dandel is based on his posts every single day +1 vote on a townie!Rels?

Why does mafia do that? There is a case on Rels already and he has been on chopping block every day so far, what tells mafia he is NOT the day after?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 16:33 GMT
#1773
Okay now why are you not voting for Rels? :D
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 05 2022 16:35 GMT
#1774
On September 06 2022 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now why are you not voting for Rels? :D

Check the voting thread.

@copcake, if rels is scum it would make a slam/HF team not unreasonable. There may yet exist a world where you're town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 16:37 GMT
#1775
WHATCHA GONNADONOW JONTRON???
Huh Slam?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 05 2022 16:37 GMT
#1776
Rayn I gotta pause here and say if you are somehow scum this game you're the MVP for sure lol.

You got me completely in your pocket.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2022 16:37 GMT
#1777
On September 06 2022 01:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now why are you not voting for Rels? :D

Check the voting thread.

@copcake, if rels is scum it would make a slam/HF team not unreasonable. There may yet exist a world where you're town.


There is only one real world and that world says I am town.

Why Slam and not someone else? o_O

Why not Jock as you have questioned?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 16:39 GMT
#1778
On September 06 2022 01:37 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 01:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 06 2022 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now why are you not voting for Rels? :D

Check the voting thread.

@copcake, if rels is scum it would make a slam/HF team not unreasonable. There may yet exist a world where you're town.


There is only one real world and that world says I am town.

Why Slam and not someone else? o_O

Why not Jock as you have questioned?

why not both?
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2022 16:40 GMT
#1779
On September 06 2022 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 01:37 CopCake wrote:
On September 06 2022 01:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 06 2022 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now why are you not voting for Rels? :D

Check the voting thread.

@copcake, if rels is scum it would make a slam/HF team not unreasonable. There may yet exist a world where you're town.


There is only one real world and that world says I am town.

Why Slam and not someone else? o_O

Why not Jock as you have questioned?

why not both?


In fictitious worlds I can be whatever I want to be like barbie.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 05 2022 16:41 GMT
#1780
On September 06 2022 01:37 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 01:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 06 2022 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now why are you not voting for Rels? :D

Check the voting thread.

@copcake, if rels is scum it would make a slam/HF team not unreasonable. There may yet exist a world where you're town.


There is only one real world and that world says I am town.

Why Slam and not someone else? o_O

Why not Jock as you have questioned?

Slam bc of the D1 shenanigans with the votes. And I say that knowing full well rels flipping scum makes me look terrible too.

But it's a total toss up, it could be slam/jock slam/chez (although based on how they interact in the thread I don't think that's likely). Jock/HF is possible too.
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