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On January 10 2021 02:53 Vivax wrote: Imagine paying people to play then you just complain about the game. Only scum does that.
Second time I've seen this mentioned, this was actually a thing?
Paying people to play?
Sleep is oddly elusive.
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On January 10 2021 03:00 Dandel Ion wrote: The libs have been owned.
The benefits of this are not yet apparant...
Gold.
More people should use their Dandel roles, this might be the best part of the game.
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On January 10 2021 12:17 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2021 11:02 Tictock wrote:On January 09 2021 10:13 Alakaslam wrote:On January 09 2021 10:11 yamato77 wrote:On January 09 2021 10:06 Alakaslam wrote:On January 09 2021 09:20 yamato77 wrote:On January 09 2021 09:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why are people so convinced dandel is scum? I guess that's mostly slam but I don't get it. It definitely is all Slam and he hasn't given any reason afaik The reason is the whole shenanigan with replacing the host looks to me like a scum power The OP clearly says that roles have no correlation to alignment Still. What this is causing just looks like scum. You have to correlate roles to alignment! Are you gonna make scum a parity cop? I guess you could... Are you gonna make a townie godfather? Every townie that isn’t also a miller is a godfather! What makes you think this game has roles like that? Like which? For dandels, it’s obvious so I was making a point in reply to Yamato (I think?) saying something about not being able to discern alignments from roles; this was my way of trying to express why I disbelieve it.
Just, from everything I have seen this game has very custom roles hand created for this game.
You brush off a point that the OP says roles don't define alignment by refferancing normal roles designed for certain alignments.
So what does it matter that those roles you listed can't be balanced if they are not in the game? Thus, why are you assuming they are?
Though I suppose this also means my assessment that Dandel is 3P is null as he could be trying to achieve a win con of his as any alignment. I still would rather sort it out when his abilites are not active to avoid that.
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On January 10 2021 12:38 Holyflare wrote: Not really, you shouldn't care about voting for a 3P who says his wincon involves getting removed from the game by arbitrary mechanics.
Very unlikely mafia makes that claim.
You can put it to the test by fulfilling his criteria each day (for instance making him the second biggest wagon and him voting the counter wagon should give him +3 and thus he will be removed from the game next cycle eod if we do it twice).
Wouldn't that test require quite an effort to coordinate correctly?
Having said that I thought Vivax's reaction to being "Nuked" felt genuine and I'm less inclined to lynch him. I am not a fan of self-destruction.
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On January 10 2021 12:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2021 12:44 GlowingBear wrote:On January 10 2021 12:40 Holyflare wrote: What has happened in this game other than dandel? Literally nothing. Nobody pushing anything, nobody doing anything.
Wave wanted to have fun and told us all off for not voting dandel and now he won't have fun by voting hapa and seeing if something crazy will happen anymore?? Is that not suspicious to you at all? Why do you not care? Why is that mafia motivated? I see the incongruency, but I dont see why he is mafia for that Why is there an incongruous thought process if he's town??? Either he's town and miraculously stopped wanting to have fun for (?) reasons. Or he's mafia and got put in a compromising position.
I enguaged Dandel's thing too and am now not wanting to pursue it to completion. So does that also make me mafia?
I don't think wanting to see what something will do but changing your mind when you get a glimpse of what it is, is alignment indicative.
I doubt any of the Dandel "mafia" would want to claim when everyone seems to be jumping on Wave for doing just that.
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On January 10 2021 13:21 Alakaslam wrote: Which, is why I am not pushing it anymore. Was trying to keep up RP but holy shit if it wasn’t actually super effective...
So, who is mafia then?
What DO you think of Dandel?
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On January 10 2021 14:15 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2021 14:01 Tictock wrote:On January 10 2021 02:53 Vivax wrote: Imagine paying people to play then you just complain about the game. Only scum does that. Second time I've seen this mentioned, this was actually a thing? Paying people to play? Sleep is oddly elusive. And this has been denied. But led to one of the most starkly sexual and sterile posts I’ve ever made.
I guess it's not relevant to the game itself, I just thought it was a weird thing to have happen. Actually a bit weirder if it's not true, why did Vivax think/imply it was?
I am not gunna try and look for where I first saw this said but I didn't think it was Vivax... So unless I'm mistaken that's 2 people who brought it up. Ugh I might have to though if the other person also pushed a mafia read based on it
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On January 10 2021 19:25 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2021 19:23 Tictock wrote:On January 10 2021 12:54 Holyflare wrote:On January 10 2021 12:44 GlowingBear wrote:On January 10 2021 12:40 Holyflare wrote: What has happened in this game other than dandel? Literally nothing. Nobody pushing anything, nobody doing anything.
Wave wanted to have fun and told us all off for not voting dandel and now he won't have fun by voting hapa and seeing if something crazy will happen anymore?? Is that not suspicious to you at all? Why do you not care? Why is that mafia motivated? I see the incongruency, but I dont see why he is mafia for that Why is there an incongruous thought process if he's town??? Either he's town and miraculously stopped wanting to have fun for (?) reasons. Or he's mafia and got put in a compromising position. I enguaged Dandel's thing too and am now not wanting to pursue it to completion. So does that also make me mafia? I don't think wanting to see what something will do but changing your mind when you get a glimpse of what it is, is alignment indicative. I doubt any of the Dandel "mafia" would want to claim when everyone seems to be jumping on Wave for doing just that. Wave is not mafia for having rolled mafia in dandels game.
Why is he mafia then?
That is the main thing I got that people were pushing him for.
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Lol, I was actually gunna quote that and say that sounds like a decent description of me >.<
Salt in the wound that Hapa made my role 3P after saying I was hoping to roll 3P last game. Sadly this has yet to happen.
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Well I responded to the HF stuff already I thought.
I don't trust HF to be honest. I have the sense he is playing his own game, and I question why he is wanting to lynch Hapa and push Dandel's agenda. He has made some good points, but that means little for his alignment.
I am more interested in lynching Conversion though. Mostly I just don't see him doing anything, but calling people mafia with weird or no reason and being upset. Like the majority of his posts feel like RP or are fairly meaningless (like the read based on hollow knight).
The RP is hurting the game, I am having a hard time telling who is just posting and who is RPing. Like Sho is throwing me through a loop with his posts kus I think he is RPing but he is already a low volume poster that this makes it impossible to get anything from most of his posts.
A bunch of people I feel I have no read on due to RP stuff.
I still think Yam is town, Jat is cutting through bullshit so feels town. Neither is really saying a lot though, and that makes it hard to know what the thinking behind some of their reads are (though atm it's possible I skimmed it missed stuff).
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On January 10 2021 19:45 justanothertownie wrote: I also don't get why Vivax is voting himself. Granted he is being nuked so he could do anything but that is directly against his claimed wincon. I don't think it is scummy, just weird.
He said he was giving up on the game due to the nuke. So assume it's an acceptance vote.
Though with one nuke having been a dud...
Did his "not-sober" post tell you anything?
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Sho, GB, and Obi are the people I have no idea how to read.
I have a bad reason to think Wave is town here, and maybe a slightly better one in a bit.
This is the end of my thoughts right now and I am finally caught up fully besides anything my tired ass might have forgotten or missed.
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Jat, I don't get the swap thing?
Can you explain it to me like I am an overgrown man-boy who's body is determined to not let sleep for more than 4 hours at a time?
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Oh almost forgot.
##Vote: Holyflare
Just covering my bases.
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You think Conversion knew his nuke was gunna be fake?
Fair enough I suppose re Wave, a touch OMGUS though, and not something that convinces me since I am not very confident about either of being town.
There may be hints at the bad reason, my slightly better reason is that his wagon feels too easy.
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On January 10 2021 20:26 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, so you are more interested in lynching conversion but now you vote HF. I am not following.
Not hard to figure out actually, I have faith in you big boy.
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On January 10 2021 20:40 justanothertownie wrote: I also object to the claim that this Wave wagon is easy. He has literally 3 votes and several more people were in the thread refusing to vote him instead wasting their vote somewhere irrelevant.
I did say, maybe, and in a bit.
As far as I recall I am the only person to actively challenge this read as well. Not sure who you are reffering to who "refused to vote him"
Conversion is the read I prefer to focus on. Do you have a read on him since you didn't like mine?
I should prob try and get a little more sleep soon though so I am fresh for EoD. I dislike how fractured voting is, but at least we are on plurality lynch.
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I am doing that. You guys are confused.
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@JAT
You seem to assume Conversion knew he was launching a fake Nuke at Yam, which is possible, but rereading that part of the game it seems like he was reacting more emotionally. I have a hard time going down the thought line that that was all an act to setup a believable fake Nuke.
Otherwise I see what you are getting at,
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Bleh, had a migraine waking up earlier and forgot to reset my alarm.
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