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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 02 2020 03:23 GMT
#1581
Eh sometimes the mechanics don't work in your favor. With a cult in the game this game could have gone in many different directions.

For the time I was alive you played really well.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
December 02 2020 03:27 GMT
#1582
Rayn just said that he killed shockey and slam for being dads lmaooo
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
December 02 2020 03:29 GMT
#1583
I'm not played many cult games but I agree with what was said mafia RB should clear first. There is a very delicate balance act when everyone clears. Like as example, vig/mafia kp clear at once on town m!kp, t!kp on mafia, who dies first or both and it's bloodbath? Someone has to pull the trigger first.

I'm shit at balancing so take that with grain of salt though.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 02 2020 03:29 GMT
#1584
On December 02 2020 12:22 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2020 12:18 Grackaroni wrote:
It looks like Vivax conceded

Yeah from what I can see from QTs Vivax called it because I mean.. He was right. There isn't much left to do when everyone suspects you and your partner just got fucking huge sign 'IM MAFIA!!' Hard spot to be in

I didn't read but I know FF got confirmed by being the bodyguard and I guess people believed the jailor claim.

That's just an unfortunate outcome for scum at the end having killed off everybody unable to confirm themselves. (me//TT/Jock/ShoCkkey had no claims). I guess their best chance may have been to make some sort of counterclaim against Trfel.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
December 02 2020 03:29 GMT
#1585
On November 27 2020 09:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I’m definitely lurking, but posting when possible. The slam kill imo probably happened because they were trying to give him some free time back for his newborn as well :D so my thought is Mafia is someone who understands what he’s going through.


Shockey you were the most correct early game
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 02 2020 03:30 GMT
#1586
The few times I've hosted I think I've given mafia RB priority but I can see an argument either way. If mafia have two alive they still get to choose who they want to send KP.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
December 02 2020 03:31 GMT
#1587
On December 02 2020 12:27 CopCake wrote:
Rayn just said that he killed shockey and slam for being dads lmaooo

I got laughs from scum QT when I read that :3.. I promising I'm not sadistic *looks innocent*
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
December 02 2020 03:34 GMT
#1588
On December 02 2020 12:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2020 12:22 Eversince wrote:
On December 02 2020 12:18 Grackaroni wrote:
It looks like Vivax conceded

Yeah from what I can see from QTs Vivax called it because I mean.. He was right. There isn't much left to do when everyone suspects you and your partner just got fucking huge sign 'IM MAFIA!!' Hard spot to be in

I didn't read but I know FF got confirmed by being the bodyguard and I guess people believed the jailor claim.

That's just an unfortunate outcome for scum at the end having killed off everybody unable to confirm themselves. (me//TT/Jock/ShoCkkey had no claims). I guess their best chance may have been to make some sort of counterclaim against Trfel.

I mean Trfel was basically confirmed early on?
Vivax could of CC but that would of confirmed him mafia?
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
December 02 2020 03:34 GMT
#1589
Btw if Vivax blocked tfrel and rayn was carrying the kill why didnt the kill went?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
December 02 2020 03:34 GMT
#1590
Like why Rayn got blocked if the jailkeeper was blocked???
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
December 02 2020 03:35 GMT
#1591
Resolve at the same time. Not sure if mafia kp got priority over blocks but doesn't think so.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 02 2020 03:37 GMT
#1592
On December 01 2020 07:15 Hapahauli wrote:
FYI, I did confirm roleblock mechanics with the host.

The Jailkeeper is divided into 2 actions:
1) A roleblock that resolves first...
2) And THEN a save.

This roleblock has the same priority as the mafia RB.

So, in the scenario where:
Player A is Jailkeeper
Player B is Mafia RB
Player C is a townie

If Player A JK's Player B, and;
If Player B both RB's Player A and shoots Player C;

Player C survives that interaction, and Player B's KP is blocked.

Therefore, we are in a position tomorrow (assuming we lynch mafia today) where Trfel, even if he is shot, can RB someone and confirm them as town or mafia.

a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
December 02 2020 03:41 GMT
#1593
On December 02 2020 12:37 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 07:15 Hapahauli wrote:
FYI, I did confirm roleblock mechanics with the host.

The Jailkeeper is divided into 2 actions:
1) A roleblock that resolves first...
2) And THEN a save.

This roleblock has the same priority as the mafia RB.

So, in the scenario where:
Player A is Jailkeeper
Player B is Mafia RB
Player C is a townie

If Player A JK's Player B, and;
If Player B both RB's Player A and shoots Player C;

Player C survives that interaction, and Player B's KP is blocked.

Therefore, we are in a position tomorrow (assuming we lynch mafia today) where Trfel, even if he is shot, can RB someone and confirm them as town or mafia.


Oh I forgot that but anywho
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
December 02 2020 03:43 GMT
#1594
On December 02 2020 12:37 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 07:15 Hapahauli wrote:
FYI, I did confirm roleblock mechanics with the host.

The Jailkeeper is divided into 2 actions:
1) A roleblock that resolves first...
2) And THEN a save.

This roleblock has the same priority as the mafia RB.

So, in the scenario where:
Player A is Jailkeeper
Player B is Mafia RB
Player C is a townie

If Player A JK's Player B, and;
If Player B both RB's Player A and shoots Player C;

Player C survives that interaction, and Player B's KP is blocked.

Therefore, we are in a position tomorrow (assuming we lynch mafia today) where Trfel, even if he is shot, can RB someone and confirm them as town or mafia.



But rayn wasnt the RB.

I am sorry if I dont understand, but both roleblocks should negate each other because if not... what is the case to notify tfrel he got blocked if his action happened?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 02 2020 03:46 GMT
#1595
It doesn’t matter who the mafia RB is. JK RB and Mafia RB have the same priority.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 02 2020 03:47 GMT
#1596
Trfel gets notified of being roleblocked because the “save” portion of his role is blocked.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
December 02 2020 03:49 GMT
#1597
I think they resolved both together. Rayn had the kp iirc? So they blocked each other while the rbs go threw and Rayn kp cancelled? I'm not sure. Grey or DYH probably best for but that's what I got from it.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
December 02 2020 03:51 GMT
#1598
Tfrel blocked rayn
Vivax blocked Tfrel
Rayn had the night kill

So it seems that only the saving part of Tfrel action gets blocked and not the block.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
December 02 2020 03:55 GMT
#1599
On December 02 2020 12:51 CopCake wrote:
Tfrel blocked rayn
Vivax blocked Tfrel
Rayn had the night kill

So it seems that only the saving part of Tfrel action gets blocked and not the block.

As I understand it's the blocks go through first? Otherwise Rayn kp should of hit if m!kp was above.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 02 2020 03:59 GMT
#1600
On December 02 2020 12:18 Grackaroni wrote:
It looks like Vivax conceded


Vivax semi-conceded and DYH made the call that mafia was caught mechanically and made that endgame.

Probably the right call when it was clear everyone was pretty ready for the game to be over.

Bit unfortunate that the RB thing was the nail in the coffin, and I will admit I would not have intuited that a JK being RB'd would still stop KP.

Ultimately I hope nobody is too upset by this result as this was one of the more nail-biting and interesting mafia games I have been in. I don't think anyone played a bad or even poot game, really seemed like everyone brought the A game.
I can take that responsibility.
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