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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 04 2020 14:08 GMT
#2026
On November 04 2020 22:38 Onegu wrote:
Gg

-poops-
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 15:56 GMT
#2373
##Carrot of Doom: Koshi
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:05 GMT
#2388
On October 30 2020 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
Trusting Dirk is difficult for me. The aware miller-ish aspect adds a layer of strangeness to what is already quite a convoluted role. If anything his post seems to be focused mainly on keeping himself alive for a vague promise of maybe helping town in 5 cycles, which is a long time. This sounds more like an actual survivor claim than any "actually town but may appear 3p" like he said. I don't think he's telling the 100% truth. Then again, the precedent in this very game is to hide one's own power level, so to speak, so I don't exactly think that means he's mafia. Another great candidate to check with the Library.

I don't think we should be asking about what corruption will do when we have so many claims to evaluate. Perhaps if it increases to 2 we could see what would happen at 3 but right now at 1 there's not much point if I read the OP correctly.

Rayn's return to the thread has been less than inspiring. Among a litany of list posts his seems mostly aimed at staying stuck in his reads he made hours ago and dismissing anything that has happened since. That said he is no stranger to confirmation bias so it's not particularly alignment indicative for him to not have developed further.

What's hilarious about this is that I actually find myself agreeing with him about the corruption level now that I think about it. I might choose to go myself and gain some information. I don't think I'm going to take any action involving my role as it exists now. That may change later on, because I don't know much about my role!

I didn't realize a different mini actually had multiple scum teams, but the OP reads as if there's only one (especially given the stated 1 KP) so until I have reason to believe otherwise I am going to play under that assumption. I don't see much merit in speculating about the two scum team theory.

I already stated why I take Hapa's claim at face value and dismissing that read because it looks like buddying is absurd. If I am indeed mafia, why would I buddy with a competing alignment? If we were both mafia, why would we need to "buddy up"? Rayn's reasoning here is obviously flawed, and as he himself admitted he has too many scumreads for them all to co-exist.

Shockey's list post was particularly awful. It is early sure but that was a series of thin one-liners that displayed a lack of critical thought about the game, especially as it pertains to me. I have not refused to cooperate with anyone. I have stated how I wanted to play the game and I have done so. Rayn's meta-defense of my scumread of Shockey for his posting leaves me less than enthused if this is what I should expect from a player who thinks they are analytical. Rayn's seeming certainty of Shockey's alignment is unsettling, to say the least. I have to assume knowledge outside of the thread, and the withholding of that knowledge is inherently anti-town in my opinion.

There are a lot of players in this game I don't have much of an opinion on because of their sparse, conversational and interaction based posting. Grack seems to be solely reactive. Onegu, likewise, seems to be mostly reactive outside of his claim. Ticktock's posting appeared rather bland and inoffensive, but was more substantive in comparison.

One person I absolutely do not care for is Acro. He is hyper-focused on Hapa's claim to a fault. His comments on anything outside of that since the early parts of the game are sparse. He wrote a whole bunch of nothing about my spat with Rayn and has followed up on literally nothing except his evaluation of a single 3p claim. This fixation is something that appears genuine, but could easily come from mafia. I do not trust him.

-eats carrot-
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:08 GMT
#2391
Ok I can post normally now but I die at the end of tomorrow.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:10 GMT
#2395
Koshi will die at the end of the day phase

So if it's you Koshi plz scumclaim
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:12 GMT
#2400
It has to be one of Slam and Koshi I agree.

I thought about 360 yoloing Shockey to absolutely confirm his role BUT I settled on KISS
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:13 GMT
#2403
On November 06 2020 01:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 01:10 yamato77 wrote:
Koshi will die at the end of the day phase

So if it's you Koshi plz scumclaim

Yes it was me. Got me yamato!

Nailed it. :smile:
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:13 GMT
#2408
On November 06 2020 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like koshi has confirmed shockeyys role kindish of and vice versa.
it doesnt make any sense

too confusing. too much bs going on there.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:15 GMT
#2413
Also I had to lynch Onegu yesterday because I knew we could easily still lynch Slam today if I was wrong and I absolutely could not shoot Onegu with my power so
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:16 GMT
#2419
Anyway the only real confirmed town will now sit on his laurels and wait for flips because I don't think anything interesting can possibly happen today.

If Slam and Koshi are both town then lynch Shockey obviously.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:17 GMT
#2422
Actually it could also be Iamp theoretically but that's a real xd
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:20 GMT
#2423
If one of them flips mafia and the game still isn't over then lynch poor Hapa I guess.

Tho I really hope you're telling the truth Hapa and can win with town.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:23 GMT
#2425
You have literally 0 confirmation that mafia's roles cannot be used when they visit database.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:27 GMT
#2430
I like killing people I think are mafia. It's that thing I do when town.

Turns out I got to do that this game lmao.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:31 GMT
#2433
Koshi could easily be mafia Rayn. Your overconfidence in your ever-shifting reads is hilarious.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:32 GMT
#2435
Also you are so results-oriented it is insane.

This game is about process. If all you focus on is the final result I don't understand how you could possibly enjoy playing.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:34 GMT
#2437
On November 06 2020 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 01:31 yamato77 wrote:
Koshi could easily be mafia Rayn. Your overconfidence in your ever-shifting reads is hilarious.

he and shockeyy confirmed each other's roles pretty much. mafia has a roleblocker. if koshi is mafia roleblocker how does he know about what shockeyy did?

If Koshi is mafia he can be reasonably sure that Shockey isn't lying rofl.

remember who claimed first?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:35 GMT
#2441
LMAO
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 16:36 GMT
#2444
Anyway I don't have to explain myself. We'll see if the game ends. At this point all of this is just pointless speculation.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 05 2020 23:32 GMT
#2493
Man I can't wait until I die and I don't have to read this thread anymore LMAO
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