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Yeah we have to be able to reasonably trust who we send and I do not trust Shockey.
Also, like Hapa said below, you can't choose to find out about corruption you just have to target a player.
Like I said before Hapa is a great choice for finding out more about his role and I would add Rayn and Shockey to that as well since there is definitely something strange going on between them given how Rayn's read changed.
I could potentially go (my role doesn't require the night action I thought it did) but it seems a lot of people null read me at best so I would have to do some convincing. I suppose I could force the issue but I'd rather do so with the full faith of town.
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On October 29 2020 10:23 Hapahauli wrote:
I asked GreYMist, and choosing "what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause" is not an option of choice.
You have to choose a player to target.
Hapa's post, for reference. Forgot to add it in my last post.
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On October 29 2020 14:30 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 10:23 Hapahauli wrote:
I asked GreYMist, and choosing "what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause" is not an option of choice.
You have to choose a player to target. Hapa's post, for reference. Forgot to add it in my last post.
i havent gotten an answer i dont think i will get one either. I think you can target a player and choose that option though.
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On October 29 2020 14:33 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 14:30 yamato77 wrote:On October 29 2020 10:23 Hapahauli wrote:
I asked GreYMist, and choosing "what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause" is not an option of choice.
You have to choose a player to target. Hapa's post, for reference. Forgot to add it in my last post. i havent gotten an answer i dont think i will get one either. I think you can target a player and choose that option though.
I think what it means is that you will learn what the next level of corruption will do to that player's role.
My personal belief is that Corruption could potentially lead to negative effects on certain roles. Reading my role PM carefully, I think that I must be careful wrt corruption levels.
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Anyway as a note I must sleep now and I won't be back for quite a while. I can't post or read the thread during work so it will be something like 15 hours before I will be back. I hope if anyone has any Day 0 actions they use them well. Don't kill controversial people just because things got heated.
If somehow I die, an eventuality I do not discount, my only real scumread is Shockey. There's really not much to go on so far and about a third of the thread is one player's posts SO there's a lot of noise. The only person I'm confident enough to townread at the moment is iamp. I was suspicious of his seeming parroting of rayn early on but his break with rayn's line and his general demeanor since rayn left the thread gives me the impression he's honestly trying to solve the game.
I think Hapa is generally pro-town as well and I don't think it's a good idea to kill him when he can win with us. I doubt that Hapa's plan as mafia was to fakeclaim 3P on D0. That said I would like to know HOW he can win with town. I assume that means he can win if he's alive when town wins, and if that's the case then we should probably protect him. If he continues to be a voice of reason in the thread and gives out honest reads there's no reason mafia wouldn't target him and any town ability to save him could be truly useful, essentially allowing us an edge in numbers.
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Each night, a player, instead of performing any action they may have, may visit the database and target another player. You will recieve a clue about that player's role or the setup at large. You can choose to learn whether your target has a role that has been in a previous aperture game before, If your target has activated some part of their role, what modifiers, if any, are currently affecting your target, or what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause.
Oh, ok I think I see what you mean. You target a player and then get options from there, but it seems like you would still get the option to check the next stage of corruption. It might just be too late and I'm still not processing this properly.
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On October 29 2020 13:40 yamato77 wrote:
If I had a gun I would shoot Shockey. His posts read as smug and flippant and that's a general scumtell in my book. I no longer really want to send him because he refuses to be more open about much of anything.
Of course you would, and it still wouldn’t do any good for town.
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On October 29 2020 14:44 yamato77 wrote:
Anyway as a note I must sleep now and I won't be back for quite a while. I can't post or read the thread during work so it will be something like 15 hours before I will be back. I hope if anyone has any Day 0 actions they use them well. Don't kill controversial people just because things got heated.
If somehow I die, an eventuality I do not discount, my only real scumread is Shockey. There's really not much to go on so far and about a third of the thread is one player's posts SO there's a lot of noise. The only person I'm confident enough to townread at the moment is iamp. I was suspicious of his seeming parroting of rayn early on but his break with rayn's line and his general demeanor since rayn left the thread gives me the impression he's honestly trying to solve the game.
I think Hapa is generally pro-town as well and I don't think it's a good idea to kill him when he can win with us. I doubt that Hapa's plan as mafia was to fakeclaim 3P on D0. That said I would like to know HOW he can win with town. I assume that means he can win if he's alive when town wins, and if that's the case then we should probably protect him. If he continues to be a voice of reason in the thread and gives out honest reads there's no reason mafia wouldn't target him and any town ability to save him could be truly useful, essentially allowing us an edge in numbers.
The first few sentences of the second para are rehashed statements of mine. How can you claim you think I’m mafia if we’re thinking some what alike?
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I don’t care about going in, but just saying I think it’ll help on N0 but whatevs.
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I have had a few questions about this, so here was my intent in the rules post.
You must always target a player when you visit the database because otherwise the database won’t let you connect. Once you are “in” you are able to determine what effect the next level of corruption will have on the game.
Again, my intent was to have that be clear from that post. Carry on.
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##Commence Space-Time Destabilization
I'm claiming named town. I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson.
I've been thinking about this for a while now. I wasnt sure how to play this out or what do to. But i figured the best way to do it was to be open about it so that town can benefit the most from the information i am about to give.
I have a 1 shot ability (##Commence Space-Time Destabilization) that in 5 phases town will give a great benefit to town. Some kind of hint/info will be sent to me. I don't know what it is though. The downside is that the corruption level will increase by 1. (the flavor is that i spend a lot of database capacity to study "Event Horizon Level" and spent 5 phases doing that and will then have found the answer)
Further more I will show up as "3rd party" or "not town" if someone check my alignment. (i wasn't sure if this was town to write this. But my thought was that i'd rather be upfront and let you make your own conclusion instead of being checked N1 and then fight the uphill battle with the rest of the town and let mafia ride it out)
I also have a somewhat useful night action (for town) that i won't disclose for now.
I thought about what this will mean going further:
This will put a target on my back. I'm hoping i can be protected. And if not it will help other townies to come to their own conclusion.
This might be disruptive on the short term, but i hope the long term gain out weight this.
I wanted to do this as early as possible so to get the info as soon as possible. And figuring we dont vote on this day i thought it would be better to do it now rather than later.
I don't know what the corruption increase will do, but i'm willing to take that risk. I hope you do too. I didn't want to ask about this since it would be a whole lot of discussion where no-one knew anything anyway, and if we ended agreeing that i shouldn't do it, people would wonder if i actually could or not.
Anyway. Thats my claim. The timer should show up in thread so you can see my ability is real.
I'm in meeting the next 7 hours, but will do the multitask thingy =)
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Event Horizon Level: 5
TL Mafia Database Corruption Counter: 1
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On October 29 2020 01:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
hi and bye.
Got meetings, just woke up, and caught up on thread from bed. I'm sure I'll need to re-read but lets say some one from the player list is mafia!
Who were you thinking was scum from your first initial read? You never came back to this... And do you still think so?
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On October 29 2020 13:11 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 08:25 Onegu wrote:
Also I may have lost something so if you find something it is most likely mine and should be returned asap. Thank you! What are you looking for? If it's a lemon I've been searching for 8 years and if it's a banana I didn't give it to you.
Is this just a funny post or somehow related to your/Onegu's abilities/interactions?
Also why don't you have an opinion on anyone? (well to be fair, Other than hapa's claim)
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On October 29 2020 06:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 06:26 yamato77 wrote:@Shockey On October 29 2020 05:37 yamato77 wrote:On October 29 2020 05:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:On October 29 2020 04:53 yamato77 wrote:On October 29 2020 04:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So I have one question about the game:
"Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways."
So is there more than just town/mafia? :D
Btw I commit to checking out the database. I personally think I'm the best person to check it out. Why do you think you're a good candidate? I just am. I have no malintent for our database. I wish for you to be more forthcoming about your claim here. What do you intend to do if you do go to the database? Why should we trust you? Just trust me yo. If you're town, you'll trust me. If I'm mafia then Acro's post here becomes more relevant. Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:06 Acrofales wrote:On October 28 2020 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean mafia, town, who? Ideally I'd send 3 mafia! (1) they can't use night actions, (2) they are almost certain to survive the night, and (3) even if they lie about their findings, catching a scummer in a lie like that is great info. So please, if you're mafia, volunteer to go to the TL Mafia Database tonight. It'll be a huge help! (obviously, volunteering for this duty is *not* a scumtell).
Why? What? Lynch. "If I'm mafia"? Dafuq? Also, I got nothing to do with this. Kill with fire.
Anyway, still catching up. My impressions so far of where I left off yesterday:
Rayn needs to take a chill pill. He was going completely bonkers, and the whole Yamato thing was not cool. I understand Yamato: there are people I would also rather not play with, and seeing they signed up at the very last second can be offputting. I don't think it makes him town or scum. Imho the right thing to do is to shut up and replace out, but trying to second guess whether Yamato is playing *despite* Rayn because he's excited about the game, or because he feels some kind of obligation.. I dunno. In general, he hasn't impressed me and I still think Rayn is town, albeit one with cabin fever. If Yamato is town I hope he sits down and plays the game proper. If all he does is moan about Rayn, then he's probably scum with a lazy excuse.
Hapa: you need to claim for real. Nothing you're doing makes sense. You claimed, you recanted your claim, you unrecanted your claim and you used your claim as a reaction test. I don't believe any of it. Claim your wincon and whether you have KP.
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On October 29 2020 16:32 Dirkzor wrote:
##Commence Space-Time Destabilization
I'm claiming named town. I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson.
I've been thinking about this for a while now. I wasnt sure how to play this out or what do to. But i figured the best way to do it was to be open about it so that town can benefit the most from the information i am about to give.
I have a 1 shot ability (##Commence Space-Time Destabilization) that in 5 phases town will give a great benefit to town. Some kind of hint/info will be sent to me. I don't know what it is though. The downside is that the corruption level will increase by 1. (the flavor is that i spend a lot of database capacity to study "Event Horizon Level" and spent 5 phases doing that and will then have found the answer)
Further more I will show up as "3rd party" or "not town" if someone check my alignment. (i wasn't sure if this was town to write this. But my thought was that i'd rather be upfront and let you make your own conclusion instead of being checked N1 and then fight the uphill battle with the rest of the town and let mafia ride it out)
I also have a somewhat useful night action (for town) that i won't disclose for now.
I thought about what this will mean going further:
This will put a target on my back. I'm hoping i can be protected. And if not it will help other townies to come to their own conclusion.
This might be disruptive on the short term, but i hope the long term gain out weight this.
I wanted to do this as early as possible so to get the info as soon as possible. And figuring we dont vote on this day i thought it would be better to do it now rather than later.
I don't know what the corruption increase will do, but i'm willing to take that risk. I hope you do too. I didn't want to ask about this since it would be a whole lot of discussion where no-one knew anything anyway, and if we ended agreeing that i shouldn't do it, people would wonder if i actually could or not.
Anyway. Thats my claim. The timer should show up in thread so you can see my ability is real.
I'm in meeting the next 7 hours, but will do the multitask thingy =)
Wow. I actually believe you're town despite all this. It just feels wayyyy too ballsy for a scummer to pull off. Palmar or VE might do it, I guess? But claiming self-aware miller, increasing the corruption AND setting off a time bomb in the thread on N0? Seems way too reckless for mafia. I guess if it's the mother of all abilities?
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On October 29 2020 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:I think he is town though because my role says he is lol
Hm. Ok. I believe you're town, and you believe he is. But I need more than this. You masons?
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##Activate Deja Vu Engine: (raynpelikoneet)(day 0)
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Maybe I'm wrong about Rayn. He's all over the place. Dafuq? Rayn, just do what I did: step away from the computer, have some family time. Clean up the bathroom after the sewer backed up out of my toilet, you know, take a break from the game! 500 one-liners that make no sense whatsoever is not helping town. Try to chillax.
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On October 29 2020 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Activate Deja Vu Engine: (raynpelikoneet)(day 0)
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What do you think of dirkzor?
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