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It's a bit of a tonal read. His anger at me for not tow reading him instantly as well as his innocent questioning makes me think town
His list post however was bad in some regards. I don't want to lynch him though
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On August 16 2020 09:08 Trfel wrote:
The main thing I have against Fecalfeast is that he's been suspicious of basically everyone this game. He's voted for so many people and expressed willingness to kill so many people. I can kind of see it since it's hard to confirm people as town this game, but at the same time he seems super bloodthirsty.
I dunno if that is enough to make him mafia though :/
@Damdred, I'll keep thinking about it, but right now I'm not really seeing it.... Sorry if I am just being bad.
Being bloodthirsty is good, is town.
In this game mafia will most likely have a bag of old reads from D1 to carry around and just pretend to do nothing but now that the afk townies are gone (if Damdred presumably is town), in my view I am left with Shockeyy and eywa who fit that picture.
At least that's how I remember it, but I'm going over their posts first to see if I'm not reaching here.
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There is a hard time limit on this game. The longer we spend with no information the less time we have with real alignment information.
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On August 16 2020 09:15 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2020 09:08 Trfel wrote:
The main thing I have against Fecalfeast is that he's been suspicious of basically everyone this game. He's voted for so many people and expressed willingness to kill so many people. I can kind of see it since it's hard to confirm people as town this game, but at the same time he seems super bloodthirsty.
I dunno if that is enough to make him mafia though :/
@Damdred, I'll keep thinking about it, but right now I'm not really seeing it.... Sorry if I am just being bad. Being bloodthirsty is good, is town. In this game mafia will most likely have a bag of old reads from D1 to carry around and just pretend to do nothing but now that the afk townies are gone (if Damdred presumably is town), in my view I am left with Shockeyy and eywa who fit that picture. At least that's how I remember it, but I'm going over their posts first to see if I'm not reaching here.
Literally trfel and what I said about trfel
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My preferred target is LightningStrike, but I'll vote for someone else as needed to make a lynch happen.
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Literally vivax Trfel and FF follow me.
This is what we need a lunch that is somewhat contentious and hard.
Come with me lunch scum
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On August 16 2020 09:18 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2020 09:15 Vivax wrote:On August 16 2020 09:08 Trfel wrote:
The main thing I have against Fecalfeast is that he's been suspicious of basically everyone this game. He's voted for so many people and expressed willingness to kill so many people. I can kind of see it since it's hard to confirm people as town this game, but at the same time he seems super bloodthirsty.
I dunno if that is enough to make him mafia though :/
@Damdred, I'll keep thinking about it, but right now I'm not really seeing it.... Sorry if I am just being bad. Being bloodthirsty is good, is town. In this game mafia will most likely have a bag of old reads from D1 to carry around and just pretend to do nothing but now that the afk townies are gone (if Damdred presumably is town), in my view I am left with Shockeyy and eywa who fit that picture. At least that's how I remember it, but I'm going over their posts first to see if I'm not reaching here. Literally trfel and what I said about trfel
You mean you think LightningStrike was mafia for his EoD vote and your case is that Trfel as town should be scumreading him?
Is that your premise?
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I don't know why you are pushing for a Trfel lynch, Fefe. But I'm rather confident he's town atm so admittedly I haven't looked too much into him.
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We have to KILL TWO MAFIA within 7 REAL DAYS
TWO mafia kills necessarily means 3 FULL REAL DAYS, one third of which is SILENT
So if we don't kill one mafia WITHIN 4 real days from now (presuming no kill here) we AUTOMATICALLY LOSE
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##Vote: ShoCkeyy
Simply the lynch I think that has the best chance of actually happening. Lynch is better than no lynch.
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But why? I don't think Shockeyy has done anything that alignment indicative
Cheese is the mafia lunch here
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ShoCkeyy's play is certainly different from normal. In that he actually has reads, albeit poorly explained reads, but reads. Typically ShoCkeyy spends most of the game protesting not having reads.
I dunno if that makes him mafia. But I think that makes him better than a no lynch.
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On August 16 2020 09:25 Dadred wrote:
But why? I don't think Shockeyy has done anything that alignment indicative
Cheese is the mafia lunch here
Sorry but I'm not lynching Cheese after this.
On August 12 2020 09:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2020 08:45 Trfel wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: ShoCkeyy
ShoCkeyy seems all over the place this game, and very inconsistent from what I expect from him.
Idk. You still townie on Holden?
On August 12 2020 09:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2020 08:45 Trfel wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: ShoCkeyy
ShoCkeyy seems all over the place this game, and very inconsistent from what I expect from him.
Idk. Are you still townreading HoldenGolden? What do you think of eywa?I thought that was another option?
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On August 16 2020 09:19 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2020 09:18 Fecalfeast wrote:On August 16 2020 09:15 Vivax wrote:On August 16 2020 09:08 Trfel wrote:
The main thing I have against Fecalfeast is that he's been suspicious of basically everyone this game. He's voted for so many people and expressed willingness to kill so many people. I can kind of see it since it's hard to confirm people as town this game, but at the same time he seems super bloodthirsty.
I dunno if that is enough to make him mafia though :/
@Damdred, I'll keep thinking about it, but right now I'm not really seeing it.... Sorry if I am just being bad. Being bloodthirsty is good, is town. In this game mafia will most likely have a bag of old reads from D1 to carry around and just pretend to do nothing but now that the afk townies are gone (if Damdred presumably is town), in my view I am left with Shockeyy and eywa who fit that picture. At least that's how I remember it, but I'm going over their posts first to see if I'm not reaching here. Literally trfel and what I said about trfel You mean you think LightningStrike was mafia for his EoD vote and your case is that Trfel as town should be scumreading him? Is that your premise?
On August 16 2020 08:21 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2020 08:11 Trfel wrote:On August 16 2020 08:04 Dadred wrote:On August 16 2020 08:01 Trfel wrote:On August 15 2020 13:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 15 2020 12:55 Trfel wrote:On August 15 2020 12:53 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 15 2020 12:53 Trfel wrote:On August 15 2020 12:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 15 2020 12:39 Trfel wrote:
Also, it looks like we're not going to finish this game in time. I don't even care if town or mafia shows up, just as long as enough people show up to (presumably) lynch someone, even if they are town, that's better than lynching no one.
As suspicious as GTacc was, I prefer to give replacements the benefit of the doubt for a while to at least get a chance to evaluate the replacement. ShoCkeyy and LightningStrike should keep me well occupied anyway. That’s a scummy thing to post. Care to answer my question? Why is LightningStrike mafia to you? I’ve posted it multiple times before, it may not be directed at you, but it’s in the thread. Okay, well I think that judging by those explanations you are mafia. I'm giving you one final try to explain your read in a way that makes sense before I post why you are mafia. If you are town, I ask that you work with me here to help me see that. Dang. What’s wrong with my explanations? I think they’re pretty straight forward. Fair enough, I apologize and withdraw my suspicion. I can't seem to find what I saw a few days ago any more. No idea what I'm doing. But maybe ShoCkeyy isn't mafia after all :/ Who is mafia my friend? Unfortunately I'm not sure  Eywa- I thought was mafia, then I thought maybe he was town, now I'm really unsure. I'm interested why he suspects me so heavily, hopefully that will help me read him. He's also one of the players I need to re-evaluate. Dadred I will give the benefit of the doubt for now. ShoCkeyy maybe town? Maybe? LightningStrike I also need to reread, I could see him being mafia though. Mr. Cheesecake I think is town. Vivax I kinda think is town, he's been around and pushing things that are important to him. Fecalfeast I could see being mafia as well except he's been rather active. I need to take another look at him. Basically Eywa-/LightningStrike/Fecalfeast for now, maybe Dadred later. Why do you think cheesecake is town when they've been afk for 4 days? Have you ever elaborated on this? You made a post that says he irks you but since he is active you'd rather not kill him. + Show Spoiler Show nested quote + +On August 11 2020 02:50 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2020 13:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 10 2020 10:11 Trfel wrote:On August 10 2020 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
I read another game from HoldenGolden and there are several striking differences. In the other game, he doesn't really try to question other people in the same post that he's breaking out a scum read (he does that here). Also, he developed his read in the other game a lot more, here he posted the vote and then stated the read, but only after being asked. I also found his last game to be a lot more of a meme, his posts were less focused early and became more focused over the course of day 1 and developed into reads.
I think he's just naked mafia here, but even I admit it's a small sample size.
The first thing that struck me is how he immediately commented on Shockey for something that FF did before Shockey and none of the discussion that followed even mentioned FF... I immediately thought, someone is getting spewed here, but I don't know who. That's when I looked more into HoldenGolden's past games.
I'm torn because I think the mechanically correct play here is to kill GTacc (combination of him being scummy and not being involved in the stupid discussion about claimed confirmed town), but I really want to vote HoldenGolden... So, we're killing one of them today. Can I ask how you went about finding HoldenGolden's previous games? I wasn't aware that there were any previous games to look at? I don't have many reads, unfortunately. I kinda like HoldenGolden though, he seems to be one of the few people who is active and poking around and trying to investigate things and get reads. Especially in an inactive game like this, that seems rather towny. That's about all I have to say currently. Feel free to poke me, I'll try and check in every so often. This post says nothing and does not address the guy voting you (me). Please engage with me. Do you not have a few vague reads asides from the Holden one? I realize that it is still early and the game has not exactly fleshed out, but a few things have happened at least that you can be commenting on. At least FF gave some substance. I don't particularly care that you are voting for me. I see no reason to care. I didn't really have any other reads worth mentioning, no. I'm not going to try to pretend to have something where I don't. However I really don't like Mr. Cheesecake's above post (quoted). It feels rather aggressive while aggression is completely unwarranted. First, he accuses me of saying nothing (first, this is false because it's a townread on HoldenGolden; and second, it's a very short post, I didn't pretend to say anything anyway). And second, he justifies his request for reads by adding "at least Fecalfeast gave some substance" at the end. Why does he feel the need to justify asking me to provide reads? It feels very accusatory, and really feels like he's trying to tell me why I'm mafia. That said, Mr. Cheesecake's post on ShoCkeyy is not completely terrible. I find ShoCkeyy hard to read, so I'll re-evaluate this in a moment. Honestly Mr. Cheesecake being active and doing things is probably reason enough not to lynch him, even if he irks me. Then you reiterate in your list post On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:Terrible Takes by TrfelTown LeanMr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative. . that mafia has an incentive to be inactive and so cheese is towny for that then just recently you said On August 15 2020 08:27 Trfel wrote:
I still feel like Mr. Cheesecake is town from earlier, though he hasn't posted in quite a while and that's disappointing. But that's not really alignment indicative. When he was posting, it felt like he was town. I only have one reason to call Eywa- mafia and at this point, it's not super compelling anymore, especially when compared to GTacc, ShoCkeyy, and LightningStrike.
indicating your read hasn't improved (since he's not been around) but you are now able to just say "he's town" without a hint of doubt?
On August 16 2020 08:29 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +
Eywa- I thought was mafia, then I thought maybe he was town, now I'm really unsure. I'm interested why he suspects me so heavily, hopefully that will help me read him. He's also one of the players I need to re-evaluate.
Dadred I will give the benefit of the doubt for now.
ShoCkeyy maybe town? Maybe?
LightningStrike I also need to reread, I could see him being mafia though.
Mr. Cheesecake I think is town.
Vivax I kinda think is town, he's been around and pushing things that are important to him.
Fecalfeast I could see being mafia as well except he's been rather active. I need to take another look at him.
Literally the only confident read Trfel has is a townread on a player with a two-and-a-half page filter that unvoted before deadline to stop a majority (with me hehe) who hasn't posted in 4 days when their initial townread of them was based partially on their activity.
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On August 16 2020 09:26 Trfel wrote:
ShoCkeyy's play is certainly different from normal. In that he actually has reads, albeit poorly explained reads, but reads. Typically ShoCkeyy spends most of the game protesting not having reads.
I dunno if that makes him mafia. But I think that makes him better than a no lynch.
What do you mean he protests not having reads? As town? Doesn't sound familiar I think.
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On August 16 2020 09:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2020 09:26 Trfel wrote:
ShoCkeyy's play is certainly different from normal. In that he actually has reads, albeit poorly explained reads, but reads. Typically ShoCkeyy spends most of the game protesting not having reads.
I dunno if that makes him mafia. But I think that makes him better than a no lynch. What do you mean he protests not having reads? As town? Doesn't sound familiar I think. Sorry, that was poorly worded. I mean, he makes excuses for not having reads and always insists on having no thoughts about most of the game. Lemme dig up a few quotes.
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I'm not lynching Shockeyy or LS, so if we aren't lynching cheese today I guess gotta find another option.
Because I'm probably staying put.
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Don't bother with the meta.
Why do you even feel like you need to dig up quotes?
Trfel if you are scummy scum we can just vote you off, no need to feel forced.
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