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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 15 2020 23:21 GMT
#681
On August 16 2020 08:11 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2020 08:04 Dadred wrote:
On August 16 2020 08:01 Trfel wrote:
On August 15 2020 13:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 15 2020 12:55 Trfel wrote:
On August 15 2020 12:53 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 15 2020 12:53 Trfel wrote:
On August 15 2020 12:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 15 2020 12:39 Trfel wrote:
Also, it looks like we're not going to finish this game in time. I don't even care if town or mafia shows up, just as long as enough people show up to (presumably) lynch someone, even if they are town, that's better than lynching no one.

As suspicious as GTacc was, I prefer to give replacements the benefit of the doubt for a while to at least get a chance to evaluate the replacement. ShoCkeyy and LightningStrike should keep me well occupied anyway.


That’s a scummy thing to post.
Care to answer my question? Why is LightningStrike mafia to you?


I’ve posted it multiple times before, it may not be directed at you, but it’s in the thread.
Okay, well I think that judging by those explanations you are mafia.

I'm giving you one final try to explain your read in a way that makes sense before I post why you are mafia. If you are town, I ask that you work with me here to help me see that.



Dang. What’s wrong with my explanations? I think they’re pretty straight forward.
Fair enough, I apologize and withdraw my suspicion. I can't seem to find what I saw a few days ago any more.

No idea what I'm doing. But maybe ShoCkeyy isn't mafia after all :/



Who is mafia my friend?
Unfortunately I'm not sure

Eywa- I thought was mafia, then I thought maybe he was town, now I'm really unsure. I'm interested why he suspects me so heavily, hopefully that will help me read him. He's also one of the players I need to re-evaluate.
Dadred I will give the benefit of the doubt for now.
ShoCkeyy maybe town? Maybe?
LightningStrike I also need to reread, I could see him being mafia though.
Mr. Cheesecake I think is town.
Vivax I kinda think is town, he's been around and pushing things that are important to him.
Fecalfeast I could see being mafia as well except he's been rather active. I need to take another look at him.

Basically Eywa-/LightningStrike/Fecalfeast for now, maybe Dadred later.

Why do you think cheesecake is town when they've been afk for 4 days? Have you ever elaborated on this?

You made a post that says he irks you but since he is active you'd rather not kill him.
+ Show Spoiler [quote] +
On August 11 2020 02:50 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2020 13:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 10 2020 10:11 Trfel wrote:
On August 10 2020 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
I read another game from HoldenGolden and there are several striking differences. In the other game, he doesn't really try to question other people in the same post that he's breaking out a scum read (he does that here). Also, he developed his read in the other game a lot more, here he posted the vote and then stated the read, but only after being asked. I also found his last game to be a lot more of a meme, his posts were less focused early and became more focused over the course of day 1 and developed into reads.

I think he's just naked mafia here, but even I admit it's a small sample size.

The first thing that struck me is how he immediately commented on Shockey for something that FF did before Shockey and none of the discussion that followed even mentioned FF... I immediately thought, someone is getting spewed here, but I don't know who. That's when I looked more into HoldenGolden's past games.

I'm torn because I think the mechanically correct play here is to kill GTacc (combination of him being scummy and not being involved in the stupid discussion about claimed confirmed town), but I really want to vote HoldenGolden... So, we're killing one of them today.
Can I ask how you went about finding HoldenGolden's previous games? I wasn't aware that there were any previous games to look at?

I don't have many reads, unfortunately. I kinda like HoldenGolden though, he seems to be one of the few people who is active and poking around and trying to investigate things and get reads. Especially in an inactive game like this, that seems rather towny.

That's about all I have to say currently. Feel free to poke me, I'll try and check in every so often.


This post says nothing and does not address the guy voting you (me). Please engage with me. Do you not have a few vague reads asides from the Holden one? I realize that it is still early and the game has not exactly fleshed out, but a few things have happened at least that you can be commenting on. At least FF gave some substance.
I don't particularly care that you are voting for me. I see no reason to care.

I didn't really have any other reads worth mentioning, no. I'm not going to try to pretend to have something where I don't.

However I really don't like Mr. Cheesecake's above post (quoted). It feels rather aggressive while aggression is completely unwarranted. First, he accuses me of saying nothing (first, this is false because it's a townread on HoldenGolden; and second, it's a very short post, I didn't pretend to say anything anyway). And second, he justifies his request for reads by adding "at least Fecalfeast gave some substance" at the end. Why does he feel the need to justify asking me to provide reads? It feels very accusatory, and really feels like he's trying to tell me why I'm mafia.

That said, Mr. Cheesecake's post on ShoCkeyy is not completely terrible. I find ShoCkeyy hard to read, so I'll re-evaluate this in a moment. Honestly Mr. Cheesecake being active and doing things is probably reason enough not to lynch him, even if he irks me.

Then you reiterate in your list post
On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Terrible Takes by Trfel

Town Lean
Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +
I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative.

.

that mafia has an incentive to be inactive and so cheese is towny for that
then just recently you said
On August 15 2020 08:27 Trfel wrote:
I still feel like Mr. Cheesecake is town from earlier, though he hasn't posted in quite a while and that's disappointing. But that's not really alignment indicative. When he was posting, it felt like he was town. I only have one reason to call Eywa- mafia and at this point, it's not super compelling anymore, especially when compared to GTacc, ShoCkeyy, and LightningStrike.

indicating your read hasn't improved (since he's not been around) but you are now able to just say "he's town" without a hint of doubt?

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 15 2020 23:29 GMT
#682

Eywa- I thought was mafia, then I thought maybe he was town, now I'm really unsure. I'm interested why he suspects me so heavily, hopefully that will help me read him. He's also one of the players I need to re-evaluate.
Dadred I will give the benefit of the doubt for now.
ShoCkeyy maybe town? Maybe?
LightningStrike I also need to reread, I could see him being mafia though.
Mr. Cheesecake I think is town.
Vivax I kinda think is town, he's been around and pushing things that are important to him.
Fecalfeast I could see being mafia as well except he's been rather active. I need to take another look at him.


Literally the only confident read Trfel has is a townread on a player with a two-and-a-half page filter that unvoted before deadline to stop a majority (with me hehe) who hasn't posted in 4 days when their initial townread of them was based partially on their activity.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 15 2020 23:32 GMT
#683
I don't view the large block of inactivity as alignment indicative. Like I said, when Mr. Cheesecake was posting, it felt like he was town. He was pushing his reads, being sensible, and investigating things. In fact, he was probably the person pushing his reads the most while he was around.

Like, why would he be scummy because he's gone? Posting infrequently or being less involved is one thing, but just being completely gone is different. It's likely that something happened out of the game, big or small, and either way that likely isn't due to his alignment.

I guess I was also thinking that the fact that no one suspects him or has really mentioned him was a reason to think he is town too, but not that I think about that again that feels pretty stupid. And may actually be a reason to reconsider him. But regardless, I'm not interested in lynching him now.
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 15 2020 23:41 GMT
#684
Man....I kinda want to lunch cheesecake for bad reasons
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 15 2020 23:41 GMT
#685
Like really really really horrible reasons
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 15 2020 23:42 GMT
#686
Do tell?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 15 2020 23:43 GMT
#687
no
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 15 2020 23:45 GMT
#688
##unvote
##vote cheesecake


I don't think I can say why exactly without breaking slight rules...but I think we should lunch the cheese
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 15 2020 23:51 GMT
#689
I am really sure of this lynch.

Inside game look at his filter, he questions people's scum read on Vivax never has any follow-up.

Has vivax as null himself, just puts his vote on Holden not really caring. Puts his vote on LS with a bad justification.

He scum.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 15 2020 23:52 GMT
#690
Day 2 VC:

Dadred (1) - Shockeyy
Shockeyy (2) - LightningStrike, Vivax
Trfel (2) - FecalFeast, Ewya-
Mr. Cheesecake (1) - Dadred


until the next official votecount.
until the game ends.

a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 15 2020 23:55 GMT
#691
damdred not at deadline with nobody here again
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 15 2020 23:55 GMT
#692
Then come with me we still have over an hour
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 15 2020 23:57 GMT
#693
Why are you so confident
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 16 2020 00:03 GMT
#694
It's just my gut, his filter screams mafia to me atm as well. He had some nice posts but just enough to stay under the radar
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 16 2020 00:08 GMT
#695
The main thing I have against Fecalfeast is that he's been suspicious of basically everyone this game. He's voted for so many people and expressed willingness to kill so many people. I can kind of see it since it's hard to confirm people as town this game, but at the same time he seems super bloodthirsty.

I dunno if that is enough to make him mafia though :/

@Damdred, I'll keep thinking about it, but right now I'm not really seeing it.... Sorry if I am just being bad.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 16 2020 00:08 GMT
#696
well I'm not switching to cheese with less than an hour to go, would you go to shockeyy instead?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 16 2020 00:09 GMT
#697
If we want to kill someone today, all three of us have to go on shockeyy.

Unless the silent ones show up finally
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 16 2020 00:10 GMT
#698
Fecalfeast, why does the time matter so much? Just trying to understand what you are saying.
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 16 2020 00:11 GMT
#699
No I don't think I want to kill Shockeyy. I hope more shows up but you guys should come to cheese with me.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 16 2020 00:12 GMT
#700
What about LightningStrike? Damdred, I remember you were reading him as town; did you ever say why?
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