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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Endgame: ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/PngXVHlTXgY531ovSd/giphy.gif) Vivax (3): TicTock, Raynpelikoneet, Zey Zey (1): Shockeyy TicTock (1): Vivax Vivax (VT) was lynched. Zey (VT) was endgamed. Shockeyy(VT) was endgamed. Raynpelikoneet (Mafia Goon) wins! TicTock (Mafia Roleblocker) wins! | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
There, game solved." MAD PROPS | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Host Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Id8lD3A3SI4cuAovMqh1eNAmKYrfyulSc0L79OJOtiU/edit?usp=sharing Obs QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/49fCURHvEEfu Mafia QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/zpp9hxCeJ5pU | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
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Zey
Finland64 Posts
Can hapahauli be wrong? x) | ||
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Vivax
21978 Posts
I have never seen or called out cheating in TL history but it's clear that this game rayn had 'outside help'. Really disappointed. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Had fun playing with the knowledge that mafia was on my team from the get go for once. Also shoutouts to the new players, they got pocketed hard by mafia but I think both are potentially great players. Really nobody played badly this game imo, just town never coalesced. Ya'll were close around the start of D3 with pushing me though. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
"Last point: Shockey is listening to him. Why don't they just focus on voting rayn/TT instead of being upset all the time?" Because we literally had some one who only played with Rayn... Like Zey didn't even try. She just stuck her fingers in her ear and was "LALALALA" There's no reason to keep trying after that. This game is very upsetting because Rayn abused it, and knew Zey wasn't going to go against him... I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Pretty simple narrative on this game. Town wasn't too active and ate itself alive while mafia watched. I don't think mafia had to push any objectives this game (except for mayyyybe LYLO). I noticed that throughout the early stages of this game (early D1 and early D2), town seemed very reluctant to vote and push suspicions. This inevitably led to a scramble to vote in the last hours of the day. While active towns can get away with these scrambles, the inactivity of the town made these lynches very easy to manipulate. Mafia could simply divert suspicion off of a mafia lynch, and ignore the town while townies lynched themselves. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On June 10 2020 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: And GB threw it in the end... "... IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER" I didn't understand when Vivax started playing against his wincon. It felt scummy. If he kept going against you or TT I wouldn't change that :/ | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On June 10 2020 06:10 ShoCkeyy wrote: GB: "Last point: Shockey is listening to him. Why don't they just focus on voting rayn/TT instead of being upset all the time?" Because we literally had some one who only played with Rayn... Like Zey didn't even try. She just stuck her fingers in her ear and was "LALALALA" There's no reason to keep trying after that. This game is very upsetting because Rayn abused it, and knew Zey wasn't going to go against him... I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again. I understand you both being upset, but from someone who doesn't know your alignment, it felt suspicious to me. Edit: I mean, you could've just piled on TT and let Zey decide and come back near deadline. Throwing the game made you look more suspicious | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On June 10 2020 06:10 ShoCkeyy wrote: I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again. Well she was the most factually correct poster in the game D3. You and Vivax just created bullshit on the fly (as town lol) and tried to shove it down people's throats. Regardless of if you were right or wrong doesn't matter, i think i would have voted either of you in the end 100 times out of 100 if i was in her position. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On June 10 2020 06:12 GlowingBear wrote: I understand you both being upset, but from someone who doesn't know your alignment, it felt suspicious to me. Edit: I mean, you could've just piled on TT and let Zey decide and come back near deadline. Throwing the game made you look more suspicious Bro, its not even about being suspicious, she barely played and as soon as Jee died, she immediately backed rayn for no reason. It's ridiculous. She didn't try to read anything that Rayn or Tictock posted, only Vivax and I. She literally only defended Rayn after Jee's death. | ||
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Vivax
21978 Posts
I'd also rather have obsed this game than being trolled by rayn bringing his yes-men to a game. Not just that, he thinks he won fairly LOL | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
As someone who's been in a "helpless" LYLO situation as town, I do sympathize with the raw frustration of watching a game slowly end over 48 hours. That being said, I didn't get any sense that this game was marred by "cheating" or anything of the sort. It is natural for players to gravitate to what they are familiar with. A clowny game or two is the price to pay for some new blood on the site. I would caution anyone from driving players away based on a "bad performance" in their first game on TL. I think it is easier for people to shift the blame on one person rather than blaming the town collectively for their mistakes... one person didn't mislynch 3 people single-handedly after all. | ||
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