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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 03 2020 03:38 GMT
#201
Damn autocorrect, restated*
Life?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 03 2020 05:11 GMT
#202
On June 03 2020 12:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2020 10:38 Tictock wrote:
On June 03 2020 04:08 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 03 2020 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i guess you at least read the post you originally quoted. Do you have anything to say about it?


Idk I actually thought what if Cop and Plop were mafia just like Jock and Shock :D But then to think Jock/Plop got mafia again? Holy fuck the luck.


Officially the most confusing post I have read this game... this is after reading the rest of the page and coming back to it.

Even moreso when I realize that Jocks full name IS Jockmcplop... Jock/plop...



You’re the only one confused :/ I restarted my answer to Rayn so idk if you actually read the rest of the thread.


I did, and I still don't actually know who you are referring to or what you might be trying to say with that post. I pinged it as I was hoping someone might help me with it a bit.

Ultimately though it's not really important as I find the fact that you are spending a fair bit of time in the game yet not really playing pretty anti-town. Which if it was just shit posting I would say it was NAI (though still bad for the game) but you've feigned taking some stances without taking any stances which is actively scummy.
I can take that responsibility.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 03 2020 05:41 GMT
#203
I have absolutely no useful thoughts. And there's a deadline tomorrow, how unfortunate

I'll be around filtering people for a bit but I will likely go to sleep soon.

I asked CopCake about her townread on Jockmcplop because she didn't say a key part of it, that Jockmcplop's post felt genuine/sincere. Without that statement, there is no actual reason to townread Jockmcplop. I know it wasn't likely to really go anywhere, but it's the start of the game, I'll jump on anything I can Just like raynpelikoneet's entrance. To me it was the worst entrance at that point in the thread, because he didn't interact with anyone despite several people having already posted. But it's not a big deal and I don't think much of it.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 03 2020 05:46 GMT
#204
Trfel what are your thoughts of tiktok on me?
Life?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 03 2020 05:50 GMT
#205
On June 03 2020 14:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Trfel what are your thoughts of tiktok on me?
Frankly your filter is kinda awful, in fact you're my top scumread currently. You've posted so much but I have no idea what your reads are except for maybe a random, reason-less scumread of Vivax? So if Tictock is suspicious if you then that's fine by me!

Tictock has been explaining his reads, I see no real reason to suspect him yet.
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 03 2020 05:57 GMT
#206
@Tictoc, I have noticed my logic can be hard to follow in general :D

I have somewhat similar problem with Zey, I usually just dont get her locig and my initial feelings often are that she's scum. Like here now I think I have totally opposite views of Trefl (like asking "what do you guys think of Copcaces townreads" could be scummy, if sniffing threadfeel before pushing Cake mislynch, but that rayn thing NAI or even townish). Soulread of Cake is a thing she does, that time stamp thing is being used to a different forum software. I don't see anything alarming about Zey, but nothing to really townread her either.

@Vivax, did you elaborate your Trefl reads somewhere?
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 03 2020 07:19 GMT
#207
@ShocKeyy, you are telling us you are voting Vivax but are you actually gonna do it?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 03 2020 07:24 GMT
#208
On June 03 2020 14:41 Trfel wrote:
I have absolutely no useful thoughts. And there's a deadline tomorrow, how unfortunate

I'll be around filtering people for a bit but I will likely go to sleep soon.

I asked CopCake about her townread on Jockmcplop because she didn't say a key part of it, that Jockmcplop's post felt genuine/sincere. Without that statement, there is no actual reason to townread Jockmcplop. I know it wasn't likely to really go anywhere, but it's the start of the game, I'll jump on anything I can Just like raynpelikoneet's entrance. To me it was the worst entrance at that point in the thread, because he didn't interact with anyone despite several people having already posted. But it's not a big deal and I don't think much of it.



...

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 03 2020 07:26 GMT
#209
On June 02 2020 05:32 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 04:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:23 CopCake wrote:
Just came to say I am town and ready to work with my fellow sushinians!


Hi Copcake. I'm happy to have rolled town for once after god knows how many mafia games in a row


I am going to read you town for this because I know the feeling.

It is mentally exhaustingggggg!!

Even if mafia is fun, many consecutive times is nope.


And well, after that many of my reasons were "I feel it", "I feel it", etc.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 03 2020 07:54 GMT
#210
Work is apparently shit today and i have a friend coming over later so i am not sure how much i can be here today. I try to make some time at some point.
table for two on a tv tray
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 03 2020 08:40 GMT
#211
Ok putting on my tinfoil hat.

- I've learned Vivax is usually afk when maf (expect in his last game)
- rolling mafia consecutive times is exhausting
- Vivax does not really seem very inclined to answering questions here

- I think Tictock has a good point about ShoCkeyy

I was about to say that these two are certainly not mafia together, because Sho is voting Vivax, but when I checked that it's not actually the case. So now I'm wondering if this could be scum theatre for towncreds to Sho when Vivax is not up to an another top performance.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 03 2020 08:46 GMT
#212
On June 03 2020 17:40 jeekaka wrote:
Ok putting on my tinfoil hat.

- I've learned Vivax is usually afk when maf (expect in his last game)
- rolling mafia consecutive times is exhausting
- Vivax does not really seem very inclined to answering questions here

- I think Tictock has a good point about ShoCkeyy

I was about to say that these two are certainly not mafia together, because Sho is voting Vivax, but when I checked that it's not actually the case. So now I'm wondering if this could be scum theatre for towncreds to Sho when Vivax is not up to an another top performance.


Honestly I think its unlikely that shockeyy would fakevote a mafia buddy as his first post in the thread.

They are both independently suspicious though.
RIP Meatloaf <3
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 03 2020 09:41 GMT
#213
On June 03 2020 17:46 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2020 17:40 jeekaka wrote:
Ok putting on my tinfoil hat.

- I've learned Vivax is usually afk when maf (expect in his last game)
- rolling mafia consecutive times is exhausting
- Vivax does not really seem very inclined to answering questions here

- I think Tictock has a good point about ShoCkeyy

I was about to say that these two are certainly not mafia together, because Sho is voting Vivax, but when I checked that it's not actually the case. So now I'm wondering if this could be scum theatre for towncreds to Sho when Vivax is not up to an another top performance.


Honestly I think its unlikely that shockeyy would fakevote a mafia buddy as his first post in the thread.

They are both independently suspicious though.


Yeah you are probably right and that's maybe a bit too straightforward theory, because I think that (if I'm not missing something) everyone else than Vivax and Shockeyy has at least tried to do something to solve :D

Some other general thoughts:

I think Jock has been helpful and made some good points. Also I think I'm somewhat in the same page with rayn (even though he is capable of puppet mastering me even if he's scum but this far I think it's genuine). And I liked Ticktocks takes as well.

As I said earlier, I don't think Zey and Cake are w/w. It's maybe more an educated guess, but as Zey is a bit out of her comfort zone (and would be even more so if scum) it's hard to imagine that she would just come in hard defending scummate Cake and then they would start pushing Trefl together. There are things that pinged me about Cake, but I can also see where her takes on Jock, me and Trefl could come from in a sincere mindset. Actually I'm kinda drawn to the world where Zey and Cake are both town and right about Trefl :D

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 03 2020 09:48 GMT
#214
Shockey since you ignored my question, I am going to ask a new one.

You think there is a world in which me and jock are mafia together?

On June 03 2020 04:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2020 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 03 2020 04:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You asked me what my thoughts were on your post that I quoted?? It talks about cop and jock, or am I mistaken?

Is this the correct post you're referring to?

On June 03 2020 03:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 03 2020 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 02 2020 22:33 Zey wrote:
Hi everyone!

On June 02 2020 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- used "that would be too scummy to be scum" defense, guess what, people who do scummy things are usually scum
- used "why are you looking at my scummy thing and not vivax' scummy thing??" defense. Who cares what vivax did if we are talking about what you did?

Do you think this is something that Cake wouldn't do as town?

I think the correct question is do i think she would do something like that as mafia and is it more likely she would, than as town? I am not completely certain but i am leaning on mafia side here. Because once again:
- i agree with jeekaka's assessment that cake is not mafia with jock, i think its almost impossible. But if she is mafia and not with jock her defense that is like "around the topic" suddenly makes sense because she isnt even lying (the first thing she started with was the "why would i townread my mafia partner bla bla"). I know jeekaka at least semi-jokingly mulled over the idea but if cake genuinely townreads jock why doesnt she just state why she does so instead of this overly defensive "why would i" bs?? Thats what i would do if i took jeekakas post seriously like cake seemed to.
- then there is the "why are you calling out me and not this other dude" thing. Again that's talking around the issue. If you did something you get called out for, you address the issue and clear it, and not flush it off by trying to talk about someone else. I dont really know why any townie would do that.

Now i am not 100% certain of my read here and i dont think i am getting more educated on the matter based on what cake says, ehich is why i followed up on it with something else. We'll see later how that pans out. Other things i dont like so far is Vivax dodging my question at least twice and shockeyy playing the dumb game with the playerlist when it has already been explained before the game start.

I dont really have issues with other people so far.


You know me, I personally think D1 is the worst day of the game. I wasn't playing dumb with the player list, I was just honestly curious who jeekaka is


Yeah. And you said you thought about jock and cake being mafia. But idk why?


Because the possibility is there, just like a shock and jock mafia team... COP and PLOP nah mean? These mods like rhyming teams ;D


this feels weird.
On June 03 2020 05:02 Zey wrote:
Show nested quote +
raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think the correct question is do i think she would do something like that as mafia and is it more likely she would, than as town? I am not completely certain but i am leaning on mafia side here. Because once again:
- i agree with jeekaka's assessment that cake is not mafia with jock, i think its almost impossible. But if she is mafia and not with jock her defense that is like "around the topic" suddenly makes sense because she isnt even lying (the first thing she started with was the "why would i townread my mafia partner bla bla"). I know jeekaka at least semi-jokingly mulled over the idea but if cake genuinely townreads jock why doesnt she just state why she does so instead of this overly defensive "why would i" bs?? Thats what i would do if i took jeekakas post seriously like cake seemed to.
- then there is the "why are you calling out me and not this other dude" thing. Again that's talking around the issue. If you did something you get called out for, you address the issue and clear it, and not flush it off by trying to talk about someone else. I dont really know why any townie would do that.

Thanks. I would also say that in most cases this is scum behavior, but I'm not sure about Cake. When we have played resistance she seems like player who does play with emotion. Like she would take accusations very seriously etc. I would be interested what others think, is this something Cake would do more likely as scum?

Show nested quote +
CopCake wrote:
So hey Zey, do you think tfrl is town or not?

Not.

Show nested quote +
CopCake wrote:
Tfrl read. And I just feel it, it feels scummy how he did it. My read can change? yes. I am not locking. My most locked read is Jock.

Wait. Your read about Tfrel has changed? I tried to read your post again but still I don't notice that. Can you tell how and why your opinion has changed?

Show nested quote +
raynpelikoneet wrote:
Zey wrote:
Cake's point about Trfel is interesting. I would also be interested to hear why did he asked about Vivax post about akwardnes but didn't ask about rolling mafia thing.

Am i missing something? What is this point?

I mean about this:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 14:58 Trfel wrote:
On June 02 2020 14:31 Vivax wrote:
On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting.

Is this the current pace of TL mafia?


Awkward post
Can I ask why you find this post awkward? I don't really feel it's remarkable at all, maybe even ever so slightly townish because mafia would have little incentive to post given the lack of activity.

Likely falling asleep soon.

He picks up Vivaxs "Awkward post" but not Vivaxs post where he said he rolled mafia. I would like to know why that wasn't interesting enough to him to be picked up.


Nah, I think tfrl is scummy BUT my read can change as the game progresses. I can't just say "This guy is mafia" and stick to it forever, unless I tunnel vision but that hasn't happened yet.
On June 03 2020 05:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2020 02:37 CopCake wrote:
On June 03 2020 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 02 2020 22:33 Zey wrote:
Hi everyone!

On June 02 2020 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- used "that would be too scummy to be scum" defense, guess what, people who do scummy things are usually scum
- used "why are you looking at my scummy thing and not vivax' scummy thing??" defense. Who cares what vivax did if we are talking about what you did?

Do you think this is something that Cake wouldn't do as town?

I think the correct question is do i think she would do something like that as mafia and is it more likely she would, than as town? I am not completely certain but i am leaning on mafia side here. Because once again:
- i agree with jeekaka's assessment that cake is not mafia with jock, i think its almost impossible. But if she is mafia and not with jock her defense that is like "around the topic" suddenly makes sense because she isnt even lying (the first thing she started with was the "why would i townread my mafia partner bla bla"). I know jeekaka at least semi-jokingly mulled over the idea but if cake genuinely townreads jock why doesnt she just state why she does so instead of this overly defensive "why would i" bs?? Thats what i would do if i took jeekakas post seriously like cake seemed to.
- then there is the "why are you calling out me and not this other dude" thing. Again that's talking around the issue. If you did something you get called out for, you address the issue and clear it, and not flush it off by trying to talk about someone else. I dont really know why any townie would do that.

Now i am not 100% certain of my read here and i dont think i am getting more educated on the matter based on what cake says, ehich is why i followed up on it with something else. We'll see later how that pans out. Other things i dont like so far is Vivax dodging my question at least twice and shockeyy playing the dumb game with the playerlist when it has already been explained before the game start.

I dont really have issues with other people so far.


I am so mafia it hurts.


yes


poor me.

On June 03 2020 05:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Why is Zey removing the time stamps? That seems scummy as hell to try and paint a narrative that can be falsified later in the game

:O


[image loading]

On June 03 2020 05:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You do you Zey, just saying on my end it looks scummy, you don't have to change anything about it, doesn't mean I'm calling you mafia (just yet ;D)


[image loading] x 2

On June 03 2020 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol now i wish i was mafia with zey, i'd had a game winning ate..


This would have only worked with me, Jeekaka seems she doesn't give shit and would kill mafia right away.
So idk why this comment.

On June 03 2020 09:36 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 11:27 Trfel wrote:
On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting.

Is this the current pace of TL mafia?
Not really, things just tend to be slow at the start of the game. I'm sure it will pick up once there are more relevant things to discuss in the thread.

Speaking of which, did you understand CopCake's townread of Jockmcplop? I mean I understand the words CopCake is saying, but I don't see why it makes Jockmcplop town at all. I see no reason he could not or would not say that as mafia.


I recall D1 as being the most active of days and things slowing to a crawl after the player-pool slims down. Kinda nice to only have ~6 pages to catchup on after spending the day out.

As for cake stuff, meh seems like a weak tonal thing imo. Sure mafia could say it, but somebody rerolling mafia for the nth time? It's gunna come out awkward and forced.


Interesting opinion. (:

¡Hey tictock!

What are your reads and which is your favorite type of sushi? (not in the games, just in general)

I love sushi with beef, no seaweed.

On June 03 2020 10:38 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2020 04:08 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 03 2020 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i guess you at least read the post you originally quoted. Do you have anything to say about it?


Idk I actually thought what if Cop and Plop were mafia just like Jock and Shock :D But then to think Jock/Plop got mafia again? Holy fuck the luck.


Officially the most confusing post I have read this game... this is after reading the rest of the page and coming back to it.

Even moreso when I realize that Jocks full name IS Jockmcplop... Jock/plop...



I agree with this, it cost me some time. And I didn't like either his posts about the rhymes and that he noticed the timestamps.
On June 03 2020 18:41 jeekaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2020 17:46 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 03 2020 17:40 jeekaka wrote:
Ok putting on my tinfoil hat.

- I've learned Vivax is usually afk when maf (expect in his last game)
- rolling mafia consecutive times is exhausting
- Vivax does not really seem very inclined to answering questions here

- I think Tictock has a good point about ShoCkeyy

I was about to say that these two are certainly not mafia together, because Sho is voting Vivax, but when I checked that it's not actually the case. So now I'm wondering if this could be scum theatre for towncreds to Sho when Vivax is not up to an another top performance.


Honestly I think its unlikely that shockeyy would fakevote a mafia buddy as his first post in the thread.

They are both independently suspicious though.


Yeah you are probably right and that's maybe a bit too straightforward theory, because I think that (if I'm not missing something) everyone else than Vivax and Shockeyy has at least tried to do something to solve :D

Some other general thoughts:

I think Jock has been helpful and made some good points. Also I think I'm somewhat in the same page with rayn (even though he is capable of puppet mastering me even if he's scum but this far I think it's genuine). And I liked Ticktocks takes as well.

As I said earlier, I don't think Zey and Cake are w/w. It's maybe more an educated guess, but as Zey is a bit out of her comfort zone (and would be even more so if scum) it's hard to imagine that she would just come in hard defending scummate Cake and then they would start pushing Trefl together. There are things that pinged me about Cake, but I can also see where her takes on Jock, me and Trefl could come from in a sincere mindset. Actually I'm kinda drawn to the world where Zey and Cake are both town and right about Trefl :D



I will consider this in the future.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 03 2020 09:55 GMT
#215
TL; DR

I do think that Jock and Tiktock are 100% town.

I was about to say Jeekaka was also town but... let's say 90% sure.

I would call out shockey but he always do scummy shit even as town so I am like...

[image loading]

I am also surprised no one has pointed that out.

Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 03 2020 10:02 GMT
#216
Not the mama!
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 03 2020 10:03 GMT
#217
1. ShoCkeyy - likely mafia
2. CopCake - town
3. Trfel - likely mafia
4. TickTock - town
5. Vivax - ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
6. Zey - ??
7. raynpelikoneet - likely town or not? something odd.
8. Jockmcplop - town
9. jeekaka - likely town

Town circle:

Jocaketock.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 03 2020 10:08 GMT
#218
On June 03 2020 19:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
Not the mama!


Ahahahahaha I also loved that show a lot as a child. :D

What do you think of Vivax so far?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 03 2020 10:13 GMT
#219
On June 03 2020 19:08 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2020 19:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
Not the mama!


Ahahahahaha I also loved that show a lot as a child. :D

What do you think of Vivax so far?


He seems non committal, with the drunk posting and then hedging on ticktock's 'awkward post', so i'm leaning scum but there isn't enough in his iso for a good read yet.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 03 2020 10:19 GMT
#220
On June 03 2020 19:08 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2020 19:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
Not the mama!


Ahahahahaha I also loved that show a lot as a child. :D



It was the only show we would watch every week as a family with Sunday dinner. Good memories.
RIP Meatloaf <3
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