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Vote Count
Vivax (2): Jockmcplop, raynpelikoneet
ShocCkey (1): TicTock
Not voting: All others
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until deadline.
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On June 03 2020 22:21 CopCake wrote:
Aren't I one of those players you avoid to read because I make no sense Vivax?
Since when do I have a meta in how I read you when town or mafia?
How many times have you seen me as mafia?
Irrelevant.
What's relevant is that if you are town, you aren't convincing of not being one of the mafias in my lynch pool because you decided to give zey a pass with ??? in your list and you townread Ticktock for unknown reasons in less than 10 minutes afterwards
Hey tictock!
What are your reads and which is your favorite type of sushi? (not in the games, just in general)
What did TT post previously? His Shockeyy-read and last post, then you ask him about his reads again as if interested in them, but decide to townread him anyway. You are fairly comfortable having TT as town, but passed him a question for its own sake.
That said, TTs case on Shockeyy is hyperbole. 'Shitting up the thread'. You can't be as confident as TT is that it makes Shockeyy mafia (who is hard to read) unless you decided beforehand you were going to push him imho.
Sho is clearly actively doing nothing and shitting up the game. It's actually confounding to me that nobody else has called it out.
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On June 03 2020 20:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:If I had to give reads, I think cop, tick, or trfel are possibly mafia because they were the fastest to paint me as mafia, and we all know mafia likes to use me as a scape goat 
On June 03 2020 18:55 CopCake wrote:TL; DR I do think that Jock and Tiktock are 100% town. I was about to say Jeekaka was also town but... let's say 90% sure. I would call out shockey but he always do scummy shit even as town so I am like... ![[image loading]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b5/03/50/b5035030e9bc88b45466dc316bd2646d.gif) I am also surprised no one has pointed that out.
Am I mafia for thinking like you??????
You got mad because I said you ignored my question and decided to call me mafia?
Btw, not you ignored again my question.
On June 03 2020 18:48 CopCake wrote:
Shockey since you ignored my question, I am going to ask a new one.
You think there is a world in which me and jock are mafia together?
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On June 03 2020 09:36 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2020 11:27 Trfel wrote:On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting.
Is this the current pace of TL mafia? Not really, things just tend to be slow at the start of the game. I'm sure it will pick up once there are more relevant things to discuss in the thread. Speaking of which, did you understand CopCake's townread of Jockmcplop? I mean I understand the words CopCake is saying, but I don't see why it makes Jockmcplop town at all. I see no reason he could not or would not say that as mafia.
I recall D1 as being the most active of days and things slowing to a crawl after the player-pool slims down. Kinda nice to only have ~6 pages to catchup on after spending the day out.As for cake stuff, meh seems like a weak tonal thing imo. Sure mafia could say it, but somebody rerolling mafia for the nth time? It's gunna come out awkward and forced.
I liked this from TT
On June 03 2020 10:11 Tictock wrote:Will stop replying and posting to everything that catches my eye, and proceed more on a page by page catchup. Like the engagement between rayn/cake at end of pg5, rayn is chasing the weird shit that catches his interest and cake feels pretty flowing and natural. Both feel pretty town. Show nested quote +On June 02 2020 17:13 jeekaka wrote:On June 02 2020 16:42 CopCake wrote:On June 02 2020 08:28 Trfel wrote:Hi all  Long time no see! CopCake, I don't understand why you are townreading Jockmcplop so easily. Why couldn't he say that as mafia? Wooooo, because I know the feeling of rolling mafia consecutive and then rolling town is fresh air, I said it. Recently of 4 games in 3 I have been mafia so being town here is like... freedom. Not to have to worry about mind games. On June 02 2020 05:32 CopCake wrote:On June 02 2020 04:35 Jockmcplop wrote:On June 02 2020 04:23 CopCake wrote:
Just came to say I am town and ready to work with my fellow sushinians! Hi Copcake. I'm happy to have rolled town for once after god knows how many mafia games in a row I am going to read you town for this because I know the feeling. It is mentally exhaustingggggg!!
Even if mafia is fun, many consecutive times is nope. Ofc there is a small chance he could say that as mafia but he just came up out of nowhere which makes me feel that a town jock is more likely to say that, he feels cheerful. It feels sincere. Now why are you like all "woooooooo why did cake say that"? I need to check if you haven't played recently BUT if you have you should know jock has been rolling mafia many times lately. I think he and vivax were in a team together last game. And then he was mafia in the game he made fun of HF with a gif. I think that tone is really easily faked. And you cannot come to thread like "can you guys believe I rolled scum again" so it's actually also very likely thing to fake. You so eagerly townreading him for it might be TMI or kinda subtly highlighting towniness of your own entry post where you stated you were town. So I don't really think you are mafia together, but seems like claiming town in the first posts works as counter psychology to me :D Flagged this post for myself earlier and now it's working it's way into this post. The framing jeeka uses in the first line feels off to me, and the last line is sorta calling cake mafia but not really. Show nested quote +On June 02 2020 23:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
Not quite sure what to make of Vivax's opening. His thing about not letting rayn know if he scumreads him is interesting and I don't think we should forget that he posted that. Like this from Jock. ShoCkeyy makes earth shattering posts and I am up to pg8 but need to grab some dinner. Liking Cake, Rayn, and Jock for town atm. I wanna call trfel town too, partially for feels and partially kus I don't know why he would defend my 2nd post like he did if mafia.
I also liked this post. I disagree a little bit with his Jeeka read but I like his process.
On June 03 2020 10:38 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 04:08 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 03 2020 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i guess you at least read the post you originally quoted. Do you have anything to say about it? Idk I actually thought what if Cop and Plop were mafia just like Jock and Shock :D But then to think Jock/Plop got mafia again? Holy fuck the luck. Officially the most confusing post I have read this game... this is after reading the rest of the page and coming back to it. Even moreso when I realize that Jocks full name IS Jockmcplop... Jock/plop...
And the thing I liked the most was this. How can you confuse jock and plop and make them two different persons????
Which makes me read shockey kinda mafioshi.
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On June 03 2020 18:48 CopCake wrote:Shockey since you ignored my question, I am going to ask a new one. You think there is a world in which me and jock are mafia together? Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 04:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 03 2020 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 03 2020 04:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:You asked me what my thoughts were on your post that I quoted?? It talks about cop and jock, or am I mistaken? Is this the correct post you're referring to? On June 03 2020 03:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 03 2020 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 02 2020 22:33 Zey wrote:Hi everyone! On June 02 2020 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- used "that would be too scummy to be scum" defense, guess what, people who do scummy things are usually scum
- used "why are you looking at my scummy thing and not vivax' scummy thing??" defense. Who cares what vivax did if we are talking about what you did? Do you think this is something that Cake wouldn't do as town? I think the correct question is do i think she would do something like that as mafia and is it more likely she would, than as town? I am not completely certain but i am leaning on mafia side here. Because once again: - i agree with jeekaka's assessment that cake is not mafia with jock, i think its almost impossible. But if she is mafia and not with jock her defense that is like "around the topic" suddenly makes sense because she isnt even lying (the first thing she started with was the "why would i townread my mafia partner bla bla"). I know jeekaka at least semi-jokingly mulled over the idea but if cake genuinely townreads jock why doesnt she just state why she does so instead of this overly defensive "why would i" bs?? Thats what i would do if i took jeekakas post seriously like cake seemed to. - then there is the "why are you calling out me and not this other dude" thing. Again that's talking around the issue. If you did something you get called out for, you address the issue and clear it, and not flush it off by trying to talk about someone else. I dont really know why any townie would do that. Now i am not 100% certain of my read here and i dont think i am getting more educated on the matter based on what cake says, ehich is why i followed up on it with something else. We'll see later how that pans out. Other things i dont like so far is Vivax dodging my question at least twice and shockeyy playing the dumb game with the playerlist when it has already been explained before the game start. I dont really have issues with other people so far. You know me, I personally think D1 is the worst day of the game. I wasn't playing dumb with the player list, I was just honestly curious who jeekaka is Yeah. And you said you thought about jock and cake being mafia. But idk why? Because the possibility is there, just like a shock and jock mafia team... COP and PLOP nah mean? These mods like rhyming teams ;D this feels weird. Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 05:02 Zey wrote: raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think the correct question is do i think she would do something like that as mafia and is it more likely she would, than as town? I am not completely certain but i am leaning on mafia side here. Because once again:
- i agree with jeekaka's assessment that cake is not mafia with jock, i think its almost impossible. But if she is mafia and not with jock her defense that is like "around the topic" suddenly makes sense because she isnt even lying (the first thing she started with was the "why would i townread my mafia partner bla bla"). I know jeekaka at least semi-jokingly mulled over the idea but if cake genuinely townreads jock why doesnt she just state why she does so instead of this overly defensive "why would i" bs?? Thats what i would do if i took jeekakas post seriously like cake seemed to.
- then there is the "why are you calling out me and not this other dude" thing. Again that's talking around the issue. If you did something you get called out for, you address the issue and clear it, and not flush it off by trying to talk about someone else. I dont really know why any townie would do that. Thanks. I would also say that in most cases this is scum behavior, but I'm not sure about Cake. When we have played resistance she seems like player who does play with emotion. Like she would take accusations very seriously etc. I would be interested what others think, is this something Cake would do more likely as scum? CopCake wrote:
So hey Zey, do you think tfrl is town or not? Not. CopCake wrote:
Tfrl read. And I just feel it, it feels scummy how he did it. My read can change? yes. I am not locking. My most locked read is Jock. Wait. Your read about Tfrel has changed? I tried to read your post again but still I don't notice that. Can you tell how and why your opinion has changed? raynpelikoneet wrote:Zey wrote:
Cake's point about Trfel is interesting. I would also be interested to hear why did he asked about Vivax post about akwardnes but didn't ask about rolling mafia thing.
Am i missing something? What is this point? I mean about this: On June 02 2020 14:58 Trfel wrote:On June 02 2020 14:31 Vivax wrote:On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting.
Is this the current pace of TL mafia? Awkward post Can I ask why you find this post awkward? I don't really feel it's remarkable at all, maybe even ever so slightly townish because mafia would have little incentive to post given the lack of activity. Likely falling asleep soon. He picks up Vivaxs "Awkward post" but not Vivaxs post where he said he rolled mafia. I would like to know why that wasn't interesting enough to him to be picked up. Nah, I think tfrl is scummy BUT my read can change as the game progresses. I can't just say "This guy is mafia" and stick to it forever, unless I tunnel vision but that hasn't happened yet. Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 05:23 Vivax wrote:On June 03 2020 02:37 CopCake wrote:On June 03 2020 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 02 2020 22:33 Zey wrote:Hi everyone! On June 02 2020 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- used "that would be too scummy to be scum" defense, guess what, people who do scummy things are usually scum
- used "why are you looking at my scummy thing and not vivax' scummy thing??" defense. Who cares what vivax did if we are talking about what you did? Do you think this is something that Cake wouldn't do as town? I think the correct question is do i think she would do something like that as mafia and is it more likely she would, than as town? I am not completely certain but i am leaning on mafia side here. Because once again: - i agree with jeekaka's assessment that cake is not mafia with jock, i think its almost impossible. But if she is mafia and not with jock her defense that is like "around the topic" suddenly makes sense because she isnt even lying (the first thing she started with was the "why would i townread my mafia partner bla bla"). I know jeekaka at least semi-jokingly mulled over the idea but if cake genuinely townreads jock why doesnt she just state why she does so instead of this overly defensive "why would i" bs?? Thats what i would do if i took jeekakas post seriously like cake seemed to. - then there is the "why are you calling out me and not this other dude" thing. Again that's talking around the issue. If you did something you get called out for, you address the issue and clear it, and not flush it off by trying to talk about someone else. I dont really know why any townie would do that. Now i am not 100% certain of my read here and i dont think i am getting more educated on the matter based on what cake says, ehich is why i followed up on it with something else. We'll see later how that pans out. Other things i dont like so far is Vivax dodging my question at least twice and shockeyy playing the dumb game with the playerlist when it has already been explained before the game start. I dont really have issues with other people so far. I am so mafia it hurts. yes poor me. Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 05:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Why is Zey removing the time stamps? That seems scummy as hell to try and paint a narrative that can be falsified later in the game
:O ![[image loading]](https://media1.giphy.com/media/ANbD1CCdA3iI8/200.gif) Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 05:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You do you Zey, just saying on my end it looks scummy, you don't have to change anything about it, doesn't mean I'm calling you mafia (just yet ;D) x 2 Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:lol now i wish i was mafia with zey, i'd had a game winning ate.. This would have only worked with me, Jeekaka seems she doesn't give shit and would kill mafia right away. So idk why this comment. Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 09:36 Tictock wrote:On June 02 2020 11:27 Trfel wrote:On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting.
Is this the current pace of TL mafia? Not really, things just tend to be slow at the start of the game. I'm sure it will pick up once there are more relevant things to discuss in the thread. Speaking of which, did you understand CopCake's townread of Jockmcplop? I mean I understand the words CopCake is saying, but I don't see why it makes Jockmcplop town at all. I see no reason he could not or would not say that as mafia. I recall D1 as being the most active of days and things slowing to a crawl after the player-pool slims down. Kinda nice to only have ~6 pages to catchup on after spending the day out.As for cake stuff, meh seems like a weak tonal thing imo. Sure mafia could say it, but somebody rerolling mafia for the nth time? It's gunna come out awkward and forced. Interesting opinion. (: ¡Hey tictock! What are your reads and which is your favorite type of sushi? (not in the games, just in general) I love sushi with beef, no seaweed. Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 10:38 Tictock wrote:On June 03 2020 04:08 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 03 2020 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i guess you at least read the post you originally quoted. Do you have anything to say about it? Idk I actually thought what if Cop and Plop were mafia just like Jock and Shock :D But then to think Jock/Plop got mafia again? Holy fuck the luck. Officially the most confusing post I have read this game... this is after reading the rest of the page and coming back to it. Even moreso when I realize that Jocks full name IS Jockmcplop... Jock/plop... I agree with this, it cost me some time. And I didn't like either his posts about the rhymes and that he noticed the timestamps. Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 18:41 jeekaka wrote:On June 03 2020 17:46 Jockmcplop wrote:On June 03 2020 17:40 jeekaka wrote:
Ok putting on my tinfoil hat.
- I've learned Vivax is usually afk when maf (expect in his last game)
- rolling mafia consecutive times is exhausting
- Vivax does not really seem very inclined to answering questions here
- I think Tictock has a good point about ShoCkeyy
I was about to say that these two are certainly not mafia together, because Sho is voting Vivax, but when I checked that it's not actually the case. So now I'm wondering if this could be scum theatre for towncreds to Sho when Vivax is not up to an another top performance.
Honestly I think its unlikely that shockeyy would fakevote a mafia buddy as his first post in the thread. They are both independently suspicious though. Yeah you are probably right and that's maybe a bit too straightforward theory, because I think that (if I'm not missing something) everyone else than Vivax and Shockeyy has at least tried to do something to solve :D Some other general thoughts: I think Jock has been helpful and made some good points. Also I think I'm somewhat in the same page with rayn (even though he is capable of puppet mastering me even if he's scum but this far I think it's genuine). And I liked Ticktocks takes as well. As I said earlier, I don't think Zey and Cake are w/w. It's maybe more an educated guess, but as Zey is a bit out of her comfort zone (and would be even more so if scum) it's hard to imagine that she would just come in hard defending scummate Cake and then they would start pushing Trefl together. There are things that pinged me about Cake, but I can also see where her takes on Jock, me and Trefl could come from in a sincere mindset. Actually I'm kinda drawn to the world where Zey and Cake are both town and right about Trefl :D I will consider this in the future.
Like here I even said what I like of tiktock lmao.
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Wow sorry for the many quotes, but in post #214 you can see why I can town read tictock.
I don't know why Vivax thinks I suddenly town read tictock with no reason at all.
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Well I think his read on Shock in the last two posts is for bs reasons and I don't see why you go and ask him for reads afterwards but townread him anyway and he just gave a read and instead of commenting on that read you prefer to ask Ticktock a generic question.
That part of the thread feels fake to me.
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On June 03 2020 23:25 Vivax wrote:
Well I think his read on Shock in the last two posts is for bs reasons and I don't see why you go and ask him for reads afterwards but townread him anyway and he just gave a read and instead of commenting on that read you prefer to ask Ticktock a generic question.
That part of the thread feels fake to me.
I don't think it is a bullshit reason. To me it looked as if Shockey was trying to create a story but failed.
"like that time jock and plop were mafia together", and jock and plop is the same person...
And for me
I also don't like how he mentioned Zey's timestamp thing. Someone who is bubbly and just existing to be a happy being on the thread he is paying attention to very small details that don't affect the game at all. He accused of Zey's of doing something extremely scummy when he could just easily go to Zey's filter to find the posts she is quoting.
In addition, I dislike how he reacted to me with the "ignoring the question" and then said that I am probably using him as a space goat when I was the first in the thread who said that mafia would probably use him as that.
And tbh you said that my meta when I am town is to go and say that "Vivax is mafia" and when I confront you with that you said that is irrelevant and that is not important how many games we have played together but what I am doing here. Are you going to use "meta" to scum read me or not?
I also don't understand why it rubs you that I put Zey in my "???" category.
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I guess I could vote Vivax or Trfel today, and maybe Shockey. Vivax and Trfel also have some potential to be scum together, but pairing them with Shockey would require maybe bit too much tinfoil.
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So maybe for now
##vote: Trfel
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Why tfrl over vivax or shockey?
Just wondering.
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Mostly I just want to see what happens :D Vivax and Shock already have some pressure on them.
And as I just said, Shock of these three has least potential to be scum with the others. Also I see some lynchbait potential in him, if thats correct use of the term 
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That yellow ball is not really picturing my feelings.
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I honestly find vivax's latest posts more worrysome than tfrl's.
I will re check tho.
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Cop please just read my posts.. I don’t think Jock is two people, I was just putting people who’s names rhyme... I stated that. If you’re choosing to not read that’s not my problem.
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Yeah there was some crap.
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This thing everyone's talking about with shockeyy seems like a misunderstanding or a typo and I wouldn't be judging people on that tbh.
Unless I'm missing something.
He was talking about rhyming mafia teams... shock and jock last time and hypothetically cop and plop this time cos it would be funny i guess. In both cases i would be mafia, once with shockeyy the other with copcake, and they rhyme.
I don't see how that makes him mafia unless you were already thinking he's mafia and this isn't the reason for reading him.
I feel like i'm not being clear but that's the best way i can think to explain it.
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On June 02 2020 14:58 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2020 14:31 Vivax wrote:On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting.
Is this the current pace of TL mafia? Awkward post Can I ask why you find this post awkward? I don't really feel it's remarkable at all, maybe even ever so slightly townish because mafia would have little incentive to post given the lack of activity. Likely falling asleep soon.
On June 03 2020 14:41 Trfel wrote:I have absolutely no useful thoughts. And there's a deadline tomorrow, how unfortunate  I'll be around filtering people for a bit but I will likely go to sleep soon.I asked CopCake about her townread on Jockmcplop because she didn't say a key part of it, that Jockmcplop's post felt genuine/sincere. Without that statement, there is no actual reason to townread Jockmcplop. I know it wasn't likely to really go anywhere, but it's the start of the game, I'll jump on anything I can Just like raynpelikoneet's entrance. To me it was the worst entrance at that point in the thread, because he didn't interact with anyone despite several people having already posted. But it's not a big deal and I don't think much of it.
On June 03 2020 14:50 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 14:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Trfel what are your thoughts of tiktok on me? Frankly your filter is kinda awful, in fact you're my top scumread currently. You've posted so much but I have no idea what your reads are except for maybe a random, reason-less scumread of Vivax? So if Tictock is suspicious if you then that's fine by me! Tictock has been explaining his reads, I see no real reason to suspect him yet.
Mmmmmm...
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What do you peeps think of zeys read progression on Trfel? Reads a bit like she got talked into it.
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On June 03 2020 04:08 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i guess you at least read the post you originally quoted. Do you have anything to say about it? Idk I actually thought what if Cop and Plop were mafia just like Jock and Shock :D But then to think Jock/Plop got mafia again? Holy fuck the luck.
Ok, I missread. I read it as if you were saying there is a couple of jock/plop like if they were different people.
Still shockey... I said that people use you for misslynch <_<.
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