• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:58
CEST 02:58
KST 09:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced13Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid22
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool 2026 GSL Tour plans announced MaNa leaves Team Liquid Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
Data needed RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Gypsy to Korea ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1457 users

[M][N]Oil Futures Mafia

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2020 16:38 GMT
#23
/in
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 08:27 GMT
#37
Can someone else join still? I think 11 is a shit number or players for a mafia game.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 17:05 GMT
#40
Game starts in an hour or two?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 20:36 GMT
#77
hi.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 20:43 GMT
#79
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.

shit i think we should kill him then
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 20:50 GMT
#81
I think he has quite a legitimate thought process and probably town based on it.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 20:55 GMT
#83
na-a.. i dont think so. At least Vivax is probably going to call me mafia for this but i dont think Trfel is mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 21:14 GMT
#84
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?

so why did you ask me about this?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 21:54 GMT
#86
And Trfel did not put effort in?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 22:13 GMT
#88
Hi Trfel can we be friends this game?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 22:42 GMT
#91
But that's not true, about Trfel only asking questions?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 22:58 GMT
#93
On April 29 2020 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
[...]
-asked me how I'm going to play and fished for whether I checked out the player roster for past games and meta
-now questions GlowingBear about Vivax which is first "OK" thing.
[...]

See these are not "only asking questions" things. Regardless of that, i really liked his thought process on your "meta shenanigans" post. I am waiting to see what kind of meta reads you will cook up. You haven't played in what... three years?

I also heavily dislike your approach towards me, because you seem to be thinking Trfel is not doing anything but asking useless questions, and i am not (before this) giving you pretty much anything on that front except for support on him for "no apparent reason". Why are you talking to me like there is nothing wrong in my behavior?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 23:02 GMT
#94
To be more clear; Is it normal for a guy who is mafia to say "hey i am gonna lurk and only be around mostly at time X", then question people and follow that up with ANYTHING?

Now i am not saying this CANT be mafia, but like... I think i tried slowwwwwwly try to get Kurumi off that thing in case he genuinely thought that was mafia behavior (in general i mean). I guess no luck, and i think that smells.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 23:09 GMT
#95
Anyways, i am gonna look at this with fresh eyes tomorrow. night.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 06:42 GMT
#136
Well at least the two of my initial reads are correct.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 06:45 GMT
#138
I honestly have zero idea of what youre even talking about vivax. I dont even remember what are the readons you "used on jock"...
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 06:52 GMT
#140
But they are not. I also think FF and Slam are town but i am not that sure about it.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 07:06 GMT
#143
It's bad teasoning so i'd rather not discuss it yet.

Also i would really like to at least answer your case but i have a hard time understanding what youre accusing me of. Because youre saying i am doing similar things that i did as town or aomeone else did as town in some other game and that makes me MAFIA???

Also i always make reads that people find out to be for flimsy reasons early on in the game. Yes i think youre town and yes i think Trfel is town, whether or noy you like the reasoning that's something i do every single game as town (truth to be told probably in most games as mafia too).

I am also not trying to paint Kurumi mafia. I was simply just questioning the only thing i found to be worth questioning at that point of the game. I dont think i am getting more definite information on that, and i dont know what that makes Kurumi so i am just gonna let it go and see what he does after.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 07:25 GMT
#144
I am also one more time trying to clarify what is the problem i have with Kurumi. First he ask me about his opinion on Trfel. His opinion seems to be based on the following narrative:
- Mafia is scared to post, therefore making excuses to not post

It's simply no way Kurumi is even remotedly interested in Trfel's opening post unless the above is true. When i give my opinion on Trfel's posting (he had posted more in between), he says this:
Well, I got all bad vibes from this and wanted another pair of eyes on this. Someone declaring at the start of the game that they're going to be lazy feels like a setup for a future cop-out for why they're not putting the effort in.

This is okay alignment wise i think, i mean i can see it coming from a townie too -- the quote in itself not considering other things. The thing that interests me here is that Trfel is not actually being lazy as he claimed at the start of the game. When i confront this Kurumi says:
Oh come on Ray, what kind of reasoning is this? If anything, we should be concerned that someone that has shown less interest in the game changes their behaviour so fast. If that's the whole picture, that is.

Now what? Now we should be interested in Trfel because he ISN'T lazy? Basically throughout the game so far Kurumi has been saying:
- Trfel is mafia because he is lazy and making excuses for not posting
- If that's not true after all he is still mafia because he is actually posting

aka, Trfel is mafia if he is not posting or if he is posting. What gives?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 07:49 GMT
#146
I am just saying what i think. If you turn it into some weird narrative on what someone else did in some other game then there is nothing i can do about it. Someone has probably done everything as any alignment anyone ever does in this game in some other game.... I am guessing this conversation won't go anywhere so i will just drop it.
table for two on a tv tray
1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Code For Giants Cup #29
CranKy Ducklings94
Liquipedia
BSL
19:00
RO32 Group D
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
ZZZero.O252
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech165
RuFF_SC2 54
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5588
Artosis 767
Britney 622
ZZZero.O 299
ggaemo 57
NaDa 25
Dota 2
monkeys_forever746
NeuroSwarm80
League of Legends
JimRising 605
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox567
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor173
Other Games
gofns21748
tarik_tv14339
summit1g13538
C9.Mang0327
sgares177
Maynarde119
SpeCial79
ViBE76
Mew2King40
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick670
BasetradeTV277
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 122
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• Mapu2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift3399
Other Games
• imaqtpie1245
• Scarra613
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
8h 3m
Wardi Open
9h 3m
Afreeca Starleague
9h 3m
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
15h 3m
RSL Revival
1d 1h
GSL
1d 7h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 10h
RSL Revival
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Escore
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Universe Titan Cup
5 days
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Ladder Legends
6 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W3
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.