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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:10 Kurumi wrote: I can't believe it wasn't a mafiastack. This game should be scrubbed off this forum. Mafia did a great job to confuse town. Especial shotout to Vivax for his outstanding mafia play. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:11 GlowingBear wrote: Mafia did a great job to confuse town. Especial shotout to Vivax for his outstanding mafia play. While winning so fast as a Mafia team is commendable no doubt, you and Jock were dead if Town had another chance. D1 lynch wasn't decided by you, D2 lynch wasn't decided by you and holy shit the D3 lynch wasn't decided by you either. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9985 Posts
 Thanks to my mafia team for saving my ass repeatedly! | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:13 Kurumi wrote: While winning so fast as a Mafia team is commendable no doubt, you and Jock were dead if Town had another chance. D1 lynch wasn't decided by you, D2 lynch wasn't decided by you and holy shit the D3 lynch wasn't decided by you either. I think scum would have still won in the end, even if Trfel had properly gotten off his lynch. I don't think anyone would've ever been able to connect Vivax to Jock/GB without some real effort if both of the latter two had flipped red. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I think scum would have still won in the end, even if Trfel had properly gotten off his lynch. I don't think anyone would've ever been able to connect Vivax to Jock/GB without some real effort if both of the latter two had flipped red. That is true, but Mafia would have to fight with 3 confirmed Towns (Chezinu, Grack and Koshi) so it'd be between Vivax and Slam nonetheless. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Why Trfel hung onto his info so long and then dumped it later... he needed to relax with the fear. If he hadn’t said anything, no one would have tried to lynch him but me and jock. If I had seen a massive vote swap, obviously I’d change my vote and the st would probably have given themselves away. | ||
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Vivax
22409 Posts
In TL mafia tradition, the town MVP got lynched before endgame. I have deep regrets for my vote remaining on GB D1, but I slept through deadline there. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:18 Alakaslam wrote: The kurumi lynch was the worst from my perspective. It was the best from my perspective because it meant I didn't have to find a replacement | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:18 Alakaslam wrote: The kurumi lynch was the worst from my perspective. Why Trfel hung onto his info so long and then dumped it later... he needed to relax with the fear. If he hadn’t said anything, no one would have tried to lynch him but me and jock. If I had seen a massive vote swap, obviously I’d change my vote and the st would probably have given themselves away. You had a scum suspect since D1, who still wasn't really off the hook D2 on one side and a un-cc'd Tracked who confirmed Chezinu as Town PR, probably cleared Koshi and had a scum check on the other side of the lynch.... wack | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:13 Kurumi wrote: While winning so fast as a Mafia team is commendable no doubt, you and Jock were dead if Town had another chance. D1 lynch wasn't decided by you, D2 lynch wasn't decided by you and holy shit the D3 lynch wasn't decided by you either. You underestimate the ability of getting town confused. No one in this game had the 3 mafia guessed right, neither had the obs qt. Even if I and jock died, Vivax would have solo'ed this game easily. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:18 Kurumi wrote: That is true, but Mafia would have to fight with 3 confirmed Towns (Chezinu, Grack and Koshi) so it'd be between Vivax and Slam nonetheless. And I was more scumread than anyone else by that point. Thanks for the tunnel ShoCkeyy. I really handle that kind of pressure well as you can see. Lay off me if I am yelling at you that I don’t give a shit what you think (@ everyone) because if I am pontificating about how you are wrong and have a coherent answer, I’m probably scum. Also don’t keep trying to convince me I am scum if you think it’s true. That will just get under my skin and make me ill able to focus on the rest of the game; i struggle with a lot of insecurity IRL and come here to relax. So A-1 ruin slam townplay move is to tunnel me and try to convince me I am mafia. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:21 GlowingBear wrote: You underestimate the ability of getting town confused. No one in this game had the 3 mafia guessed right, neither had the obs qt. Even if I and jock died, Vivax would have solo'ed this game easily. As I posted earlier, it was Vivax vs Slam against all confirmed Town if Jock gets lynched properly instead of Trfel. So no "easy" out. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:20 Kurumi wrote: You had a scum suspect since D1, who still wasn't really off the hook D2 on one side and a un-cc'd Tracked who confirmed Chezinu as Town PR, probably cleared Koshi and had a scum check on the other side of the lynch.... wack Ok, but 1. IRL wiped 20+ pages from my memory so it didnt look like that to me at all 2. He should have claimed the check immediately. He valued his blue role so highly that he wifomed the town; more experienced players than I have pointed out that overvaluing a role is cancer in many ways and that was one of them. 3. GB had an excellent point in light of that. After all, I was not scum and therefore thought he could be town. I had highly favored your early opinions and those were the part of the game I remembered. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
You can't blame solely town for the loss. You guys had to face a very organized scum team that could almost 100% accurately guess roles. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:22 Alakaslam wrote: i struggle with a lot of insecurity IRL and come here to relax. So A-1 ruin slam townplay move is to tunnel me and try to convince me I am mafia. New meta argument as town: Slam hasn't cracked from tunneling me -> he must be scum | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:24 Kurumi wrote: As I posted earlier, it was Vivax vs Slam against all confirmed Town if Jock gets lynched properly instead of Trfel. So no "easy" out. And Vivax would never me lynched over Slam, so, yeah. You're basically saying that town could've win because of mechanics. You're taking off all the merits of the scum team. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:25 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: New meta argument as town: Slam hasn't cracked from tunneling me -> he must be scum Basically lol | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On May 08 2020 04:25 Alakaslam wrote: Ok, but 1. IRL wiped 20+ pages from my memory so it didnt look like that to me at all 2. He should have claimed the check immediately. He valued his blue role so highly that he wifomed the town; more experienced players than I have pointed out that overvaluing a role is cancer in many ways and that was one of them. 3. GB had an excellent point in light of that. After all, I was not scum and therefore thought he could be town. I had highly favored your early opinions and those were the part of the game I remembered. When I was posting my list-post I really did not want to list Vivax as Town because I knew that if there's one person to trick me, be active and steer the thread, it's going to be Vivax. I decided to paint him as Town to buddy-buddy a little, make him sleep on me... But I got mad. And useless. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7468 Posts
I missed deadline. Didnt protect anyone. Power and internet went put. Yes, during quarantine. Transformer blew. | ||
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