After that I think Shockey is wayyyyyyyy too fucking stupid to be town. Which is a badmannered thing to say because if he is town he is potentially offended and that is not whzt I want but heyyyyy
I allowed him to scumread me for my opening and since then he just rolled with that.
rayn and Vivax both call me town and he just keeps his shitread on me for not much reasons except there is apparabtly scum between slam and I. I am pretty sure there is not yet a good reason in the thread for that as well.
On May 03 2020 10:05 ShoCkeyy wrote: The fact that Koshi votes for me and not rayn shows that he's just trying to go with the easiest lynch targets. He did it to GB, and was upset Kurami got booted instead. Koshi was trying to push Rayn earlier and instead hard switched me even though rayn has been his biggest scum read.
Dumb omgus and weird he believes he is the easiest lynch target. Doesnt show much confidence in his own future play.
Jock who do you want to lynch? What is this entire conversation about? Do you want to find mafia?
My PoE currently:
Slam Koshi Chezinu Trfel Vivax
I'm in your PoE? Trfel?
Yep. I think you've been pretty scummy except for your meta which makes me doubt my read on you. I really hate the push against rayn, and shockeyy for that matter. I can't just ignore that stuff because you are posting enough to be town vivax.
Trfel is basically a null read which puts him in my PoE. I have alot of townreads and people i won't lynch this game. Trfel never did anything to make me think he's town. He's making cases but they are all kind of weak. Doesn't make him mafia, but stops me from townreading him.
If you found my push on rayn weird I'd expect you to mention it somewhere before, because it's quite a hipster read to have.
I'm also not in your scum list from your previous post. Dunno, I find your poe hard to believe. It's like you're reading a different game.
My PoE includes null and scum because I have more townreads than scumreads. You/trfel/chez are more null than scummy but you're in the PoE because my only scumreads are slam and koshi (i'm doubting my koshi read now even) and that's not enough scum for a team.
On May 03 2020 10:14 ShoCkeyy wrote: Vivax, if rayn wasn't town, then why would he vote for Kurumi even though he was confirmed town with his posts and was most likely going to get modkilled or replaced? Like the way I see it is if rayn was mafia, he would of voted GB out instead because GB would definitely been his biggest opponent, and his biggest problem until N1 kill or something.
GlowingBear: (3) Koshi, Vivax, Alakaslam If you're town, which I hope you are based on your game play, then that means Kosh or Slam have to be mafia. Trfel seems to be sheeping Rayn or just willing to vote Kurumi based on the same information Rayn had, and he at least is also trying to play the game as well.
Rayn seems to only not be playing recently because people are scum reading him. He did the same thing last game I played where Hap was really pushing he was mafia.
All this has nothing to do with scumhunting but is all association and anthics based. Just read this....
Tje bolded is something ge keeps repeating and the craziest reasons seem to be ok to add to his narritive.
Why arent we both mafia anymore? Like slam and I easily could still be mafia together like he claimed before.
And maybe we can stilm both be mafia in his eyes but come on.... It's all so little thought through.
And the other reads in this post is just things happening. Nothing really convincinh why somebody is scum or not. It doesnt show this guy is critically thinking/searching for mafia.
On May 01 2020 11:11 Trfel wrote: Fecalfeast, do you have any response to my suspicions of you? Specifically, you seem to throw suspicion everywhere, it feels like you are reaching for reasons to scumread everyone. Primarily early Day 1.
I have scum reads or at least scumleans on shockey slam gb chezinu and atm grack
And i was scumming kurumi but actually can you show me where i threw suspicion everyehere? Pointing out or questioning perceived contradictions is hardly throwing suspicion
So these are the people that are implicated/framed by the Fefe kill.
Here's how I was on them before Fefe's kill:
town shockeyy
town lean GB
null: chez grack
scum slam
I think i'm more likely to townlean grack now just because of his attitude and tone.
GB stays where he is. I'm really not convinced of trfel's case on him at all. In fact I flat out disagree with it.
Which leaves chez and slam in the null/scum sections. This makes me uncomfortable, they aren't two players who I want to build a view of the game on assuming their alignment, as they are both very difficult to read.
I think shockeyy is the most important player right now. I'm gonna go and reread all the reasons people have for scumreading him. I already said why i disagree with Fefe's reasons for scumreading shockeyy and his flip doesn't change my reasoning there at all.
I still have a strong feeling that koshi and shockeyy are opposite alignments.
On May 03 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote: Well, I'll likely be around for a bit if anyone wants to talk. GlowingBear, especially you.
@GlowingBear, why doesn't ShoCkeyy's post makes sense? I can understand where he is coming from, at least, even if I don't necessarily agree.
Why would FF's death in any way incriminate me? His post sounded like he was trying to put suspicions on me without actually comitting to have me lynched.
I'll leave that for ShoCkeyy to answer, I guesssssssss I can kinda see where you're coming from, even if I can see ShoCkeyy's perspective more easily.
Interested to hear your thoughts when you are finished catching up.
I finished catching up and there's nothing much to talk about. Why is Koshi voting Shockey now?
It's slightly explained in his filter but not a ton.
Who do you think is mafia currently? I know ShoCkeyy, still raynpelikoneet and Koshi? What about Alakaslam and the rest?
There's nothing new to talk about tbh. Slam was constantly reacting to the thread, reevaluating his reads, but this fell a bit today. Not his fault tho, since there's nothing much to talk about. Rayn lack of interest in the thread proves he is not interested in solving the game. Mafia. Koshi actually started to think a bit about the new information that has been posted in the thread. He could've still be tunneled on me and trying to have a mislynch, but he decided to let it go and go against Shockey. Shockey isn't really contributive, he posts some made up conspiracies to frame people, then forgets it just to post a OMGUS vote. Jockmcplop is top town right now, he has been thinking critically about the game and there is nothing opportunistic in his posts. He brings original and genuine content when posting his reads and seems to be trying to solve the game.
I still think you're town although you've posted a bad case on me that I want people to address.
Ok. GB is fine for now. The shockey thing is good. The slam thibg is good. Still like his rayn stuff.
On May 03 2020 14:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: GB im literally trying to say your town and then you just decide I’m mafia? Like in what mind set does that make sense as a town? I thought town is supposed to team up?
Lolololol
I am tunneled on this guy now.
If this is not:
I am sucking your dick and you call me mafia? Holy fuck how ungrateful. I set this up perfectly and you just cut through my bullshit and call me mafia? I didnt see this cumming.
On May 03 2020 14:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: GB what are you smoking, I was saying that FF talked about you quite a bit, and with that early vote on you can make it look like one or the other.
How in any way FF's death tells anything about my alignment? A lot of people talked about me.
On May 03 2020 14:41 ShoCkeyy wrote: I didn’t do some conspiracy and just throw it out. I voted with my scum read, how is that throwing it out?
Do you think I was framed?
No obviously not, that’s why Koshi is going on the second “easiest” lynch this D2. You were first, and he started the wagon. Now D2 he starts the Shockeyy wagon and fucks off again.
EPT
