• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:13
CEST 08:13
KST 15:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy0uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event11Serral wins EWC 202547Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple5SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event Serral wins EWC 2025 Lambo Talks: The Future of SC2 and more... Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple
Tourneys
SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Global Tourney for College Students in September RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups BW General Discussion ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September StarCon Philadelphia
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 571 users

[M][N] Holy Guardians - Chapter 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-04 00:31:57
April 04 2020 00:30 GMT
#20
/obs or /in if someone has more itch to play.

Nice fill!Welcome back everyone.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 04 2020 18:13 GMT
#41
On April 05 2020 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey guys, anyone want to play mafia? I am a bit bored...


Let's go.

##Vote: Bloodycobbler
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 04 2020 18:30 GMT
#42
Trfel you just posted, where have you gone.
Did you roll mafia again
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 04 2020 18:41 GMT
#45
You are no fun. Day just started there's no harm just hopping on this wagon now. Let's just get it going and see what happens.

Or maybe you have another suggestion? I'd run along.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 04 2020 18:49 GMT
#47
On April 05 2020 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Maybe he fell asleep again? It's also boring to tak with townies only so maybe we wait for the bloody cobbler to arrive.


[image loading]


##Vote: Rayn
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 04 2020 18:54 GMT
#51
On April 05 2020 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hah he got it. Well done Vivax.


Already conceding?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 04 2020 19:00 GMT
#53
On April 05 2020 03:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I’m finishing up some chores then I’ll have some free time to post. My first question to all of you is, how are you all managing during this global pandemic? Everyone has the supplies needed? I may have to leave my incubator later for some “fresh” air, food, and cannabis.


I'm trying to raise awareness for the bullshittery being pushed on the back of this super hyped pandemic. Sometimes I go out, grab used towels from trash cans, grind them finely and snort them to make a point.

Anything game related?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 04 2020 19:17 GMT
#58
On April 05 2020 04:13 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shockeyy feels weird.
Agreed, it feels a bit strange to have time to make a post but not have time to interact. And with a bit of an excuse.

That said... I've been doing okay with the whole coronavirus thing. We have the necessary supplies here, the main worry is for the health of those who are sick. And for myself personally, the loneliness and depression caused by staying inside so much is a bit of a pain to deal with but it's much worse for others so that's not so bad.


I dub thee mr. nice guy.
There's a good cure for that, try being a shrink for people or generally going a lot out of your way to help them, few years max and you will have no choice but to become more selfish.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 04 2020 19:34 GMT
#65
I was rather referring to Trfel seeming to be such a placid, empathetic person that I assumed he hasn't seen much of the prevailing selfishness that I experienced.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 05 2020 03:44 GMT
#89
On April 05 2020 10:22 Trfel wrote:
So I think the most suspicious person so far is raynpelikoneet.
  • Implies that I am mafia one post, implies that I am town later
    + Show Spoiler [Analysis] +
    On April 05 2020 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
    Is that saying you dont belong to the family?
    On April 05 2020 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
    Maybe he fell asleep again? It's also boring to tak with townies only so maybe we wait for the bloody cobbler to arrive.
    Why did raynpelikoneet's view change? Even if he's just joking around, if he's town, I expect him to have some perception of my alignment; whatever it is, it can't really fit into both of these statements.

  • More focused on flavor than gameplay
    + Show Spoiler [Analysis] +
    This:
    On April 05 2020 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
    Shockeyy feels weird.
    is raynpelikoneet's only post with actual mafia gameplay. Frivolous posts at this stage in the game are understandable, however even after this raynpelikoneet continues to talk about flavor. He didn't explain why ShoCkeyy's post felt weird to him, or try to ask ShoCkeyy any followup questions.

  • Said he'd be back in 1-2 hours, didn't return
    + Show Spoiler +
    On April 05 2020 04:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On April 05 2020 04:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
    On April 05 2020 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
    On April 05 2020 04:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
    On April 05 2020 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
    I am in search for my wife. If you married this super handsome Luca guy just tell me and i will give you immunity for day 1. I am happy to murder our kids though.


    Lucca Baby. I dont know if its love or the quarantine talking, but I like the cut of your olives.

    Holy Italy is it you my love? :D


    Of course my Dear. You filled me with a kid then made me fall in love with you because of the farm. Its not stockholm, its the real deal.

    I should have known it of course. You cannot be possessed with those dark souls, no dark sould would crash my head against a pan repeatedly like you. That being said i am gonna have some dinner snacks and watch a movie with my other missus so i will be back in an hour or two.
    Clearly, raynpellikoneet lied here. This is in dramatic contrast with the boredom and interest in playing the game he was trying to show earlier on.
Have fun!


You are probably town for this.
I also think you are right on rayn but not for those reasons.,
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 05 2020 05:43 GMT
#109
Shockeyy do you have any scumreads or leads?
Feels like you are just coexisting.

Jock I really really think Trfel is town here. He has a mind of his own if I had to name the reason, instead of just being a void content factory.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 05 2020 06:55 GMT
#125
On April 05 2020 15:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 14:43 Vivax wrote:
Shockeyy do you have any scumreads or leads?
Feels like you are just coexisting.

Jock I really really think Trfel is town here. He has a mind of his own if I had to name the reason, instead of just being a void content factory.


Just curious why do you think Trfel is town here? Do you have anything on anybody else yourself?


It's funny you quote a post where I explain why and ask for the why.
There is enough content in the game already to form opinions, but you don't have any reads and want more content.

I don't know if you're just that confused and lazy at reading or just mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 05 2020 08:20 GMT
#131
Rayn, Shockeyy is probably scum.
Also where Hapa seemed to intend to go with his posting.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 05 2020 08:40 GMT
#137
On April 05 2020 17:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like.... why is he mafia? I don't understand?


He's just posting along and not poking anywhere. Though I'm doubting the read a little because he just seems super carefree.

Warming up for a Jock vote instead on a reread, tell me what you think?

I think him going after Trfel here feels a bit like he was trying to echo some sentiment (from BC but also me at the start) so it seems kind of opportunistic and he's way too focused on just talking it out with him instead of explaining what makes Trfel scum besides the post where he said he was overdefensive.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 05 2020 09:15 GMT
#143
Fair enough, could use more Hapa in here anyway.
But I still don't think the way Jock went after Trfel was townie.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 05 2020 09:22 GMT
#148
On April 05 2020 18:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 17:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 05 2020 15:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

Lean scum
Vivax



I am confused.


Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 14:43 Vivax wrote:
Shockeyy do you have any scumreads or leads?
Feels like you are just coexisting.

Jock I really really think Trfel is town here. He has a mind of his own if I had to name the reason, instead of just being a void content factory.


That is basically the easiest thing hes posted that I went "wtf" on. Also, he didnt answer a question I posted a few pages ago and has been "active' while not actively pushing much. Outside of basically Trfe and rayn, Vivax has no real reads/leanings on peoples alignment. Or at least ones hes posted. Meanwhile he called someone out for almost identical behaviour


It's a dumb question. It answers itself just by me playing the game. Sorry if I didn't adress it signed, sealed and waxed to his majesty the bloodygobbler. Wtf dude?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 05 2020 09:53 GMT
#154
On April 05 2020 18:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 18:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 05 2020 15:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 05 2020 15:07 Trfel wrote:
On phone and in bed, so not going to quote you Jockmcplop, hope that's okay.

I don't care about Vivax townreading me because I don't care too much about townreads in general (especially at this stage in the game) and I thought I knew why he was townreading me (since he later explained why, it turns out I was only partially correct, ah well).

I don't really know how to respond to the rest of your post so let me know if I missed something. But it seems that a key point is my "case's" first point on raynpelikoneet. It's not that he has an implied read that is suspicious, it's that the implied/joke read changes. Townies usually approach mafia from two perspectives: treat everyone as town until there is reason to suspect otherwise, or treat everyone as suspicious until they show otherwise. Raynpelikoneet's posts don't fit in either mindset.

That said, if I'm being honest, it's not a strong point at all and we all know this. I'm saying it's the most suspicious thing at that point in the game. Why'd I bring it up then, so people like you have something to talk about! I'd say it worked perfectly


hmm...

i quite like this logic even if I don't agree.


This is the post that made me change my mind. There are many many ways to attack this post in case Jock wants to do that, especially since i don't do any of what Trfel says here. Furthermore even if i did, it's no way of comparing that narrative to my early posting because i posted a joke and a bait to you. No reads lol.


TBH the post jock quoted here (especially the bolded part) is a reason i have a scum read on trfel atm.



Why does the bolded part make Trfel mafia?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 05 2020 09:54 GMT
#155
This is going to be a hard game, too much scummy stuff from too many people that can't all be mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 05 2020 09:56 GMT
#156
BC in this case seems to just take positions beforehand and then attach whatever reasoning he can muster to justify them, posthum.
Also scummy af.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21989 Posts
April 05 2020 10:11 GMT
#166
On April 05 2020 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well that's not true tbh.


How so.

First thing he did was post a list. Then afterwards came any explanation for those reads. Also it bugs me massively what he writes about me.

On April 05 2020 18:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 17:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 05 2020 15:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

Lean scum
Vivax



I am confused.


Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 14:43 Vivax wrote:
Shockeyy do you have any scumreads or leads?
Feels like you are just coexisting.

Jock I really really think Trfel is town here. He has a mind of his own if I had to name the reason, instead of just being a void content factory.


That is basically the easiest thing hes posted that I went "wtf" on. Also, he didnt answer a question I posted a few pages ago and has been "active' while not actively pushing much. Outside of basically Trfe and rayn, Vivax has no real reads/leanings on peoples alignment. Or at least ones hes posted. Meanwhile he called someone out for almost identical behaviour


I mean sure, he doesn't understand how I read Trfel. Which is just that in the last game, he was posting 'analysis' on tons of people without seeming to have an actual opinion. While also seeming awkward and appeasing.
That can be forgiven because I kept it short.

But saying I have no reads or leans or claiming that not answering his question when it's obvious at what I'm looking at which answers it, is just false. I scumlean shockey, rayn, Jock. I townread Trfel and made all of those clear.

But I have to admit chances are this is just bad town play. Depends really on how much he is willing to backtrack and admit it was just factually wrong.
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 48m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 52346
Horang2 1628
Nal_rA 709
EffOrt 249
ggaemo 228
ToSsGirL 161
Leta 151
Aegong 61
Movie 14
Hm[arnc] 13
[ Show more ]
Bale 7
Dota 2
ODPixel444
League of Legends
JimRising 716
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K872
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang01040
Mew2King102
Other Games
summit1g7071
WinterStarcraft499
NeuroSwarm50
JuggernautJason19
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick781
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1889
• Stunt496
• HappyZerGling79
Other Games
• Scarra1035
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4h 48m
RSL Revival
10h 48m
PiGosaur Monday
17h 48m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 4h
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Online Event
4 days
SC Evo League
4 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
CSO Contender
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
SC Evo League
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
6 days
RotterdaM Event
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.