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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 02:22 GMT
#444
Vivax also bitched about my activity, even though I think I was pretty active D1 and now N1.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 02:39 GMT
#446
On April 07 2020 11:23 Hapahauli wrote:
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On April 07 2020 11:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 07 2020 11:01 Hapahauli wrote:
On April 07 2020 10:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 07 2020 10:44 Hapahauli wrote:
I have read all of your posts Shock.

Ultimately your alignment is a very important piece of that puzzle, and I'm gonna give you a hard time because I want to squeeze those juicy reads out of you.

So three questions for starters so we can begin to consolidate your opinions and feels:
1) Who is in your "do not lynch" bucket?
2) Who is in your "lynch" bucket?
3) Of Bucket #2, who is your top candidate and why? What makes them worse than other candidates?



1) rayn, hap, trfel
2) bloodycobbler, chezinu
3) havent decided, depends on night kill sadly.


What bucket is Vivax in?


It relates to third, I want to town lean him. But then again, one of the last ones to jump on the jock train, and decided to disappear right after the d1 post. Then he also says he doesn't mind killing a town. I'm on the fence.


Did you look at his voting pattern?
To Devil's Advocate on your Vivax read, wouldn't him being last make him more townie?

In your analysis, this is a Hapa vs. Jock lynch. Vivax would have come in and essentially secured the lynch of his "scumbuddy" over a townie. Do you consider this a likely scenario for a mafia-Vivax? If so, why?

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 02:41 GMT
#447
some how what I wrote got deleted... anhyways, short story, did you look at vivax voting pattern?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 02:54 GMT
#449
On April 07 2020 07:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On April 07 2020 01:15 Vivax wrote:
If we murder Shockeyy here even if he's town it's one less vote for mafia in the long run.


This post also made me feel bad. I guess I am lynch bait after almost voting Hap off.

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 16:59 GMT
#514
Bahahaha, Chez please, can I get some of those augmented glasses? And a an extra chair for my enemies as well?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 17:00 GMT
#516
I'm around but not for long, gotta get do some work.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 17:03 GMT
#518
I just spent the last 30 mins watching Chez videos not realizing the D2 post was coming up soon... and sadly my town lean on vivax was actually correct, I was tin foiling too much
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 17:28 GMT
#522
Looking/thinking about Vivax posts, he was pushing BC, Trfel (very early then switched him to a town read instantly), Rayn, then mostly me.

So if it came down to it, it definitely has to be between BC, Rayn or Trfel. BC in all honesty being the scummiest one of them. If I look at myself, I already know I'm town, but Vivax filter tries to paint me as mafia which could have been a push to paint me as lynch bait.

BC right now is in my lynch pile, and in the next hour I'll have my vote on him after we discuss Chez since he was my second highest lynch target. I'm looking more into Trfel to see if I see any kind of slip ups.

Have you watched the Chez videos? Thoughts on Chez?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 17:50 GMT
#529
On April 08 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How does Vivax try to paint you as scum?


It's his last post, BC was his prior highest scum read.

On April 08 2020 00:38 Vivax wrote:
You are brainfucking yourselves too much over overcomplicated theories. That's all there is to it, been there done that.

No I don't fake that Shockeyyy is my top scumread over BC just to stay alive. He is. You guys just have a really hard time seeing that he is mafia. Dnu why.

He really just didn't do anything that had a semblance of having an opinion for 3/4th of D1 but keeps claiming he did and now he's just posting stuff that makes it look like he just skims a bit and then posts stuff out of thin air like it suits him. Plus he was begging me to see something scummy about Hapa at the end of D1. I mean, he tried and shit.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 17:54 GMT
#530
On April 08 2020 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you think Chezinu is mafia?


Because no one else thinks he is, even though he's literally just put a lot of effort (i guess) into his videos. No one would suspect of a mafia member wanting to put that much effort into the game.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 17:56 GMT
#531
Have you watched his videos Rayn? If you put the play speed at 2.0 he looks like a coked out mafia gang member.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 18:14 GMT
#535
Can you answer my other question before I answer yours? No one seems to be interacting with his videos, while everyone auto assumes he's town, that's mafia dream right there. I definitely think BC is more mafia than Chez at this point, but you never know.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 18:32 GMT
#541
On April 08 2020 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 08 2020 02:56 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Have you watched his videos Rayn? If you put the play speed at 2.0 he looks like a coked out mafia gang member.

okay so? does that make him mafia or what?


I feel like I'm always repeating myself in these games.

On April 07 2020 08:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It deals with Chezinu, and how he positions himself to be the first to kill Jock, then I ran into this post by Trfel starting to question Chez as well.

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On April 06 2020 15:30 Trfel wrote:
Actually though, what if it is Chezinu?

When he's town I'm used to him posting some relevant information/reads. Obviously in his own Chezinu way, but they are there. This game he is voting for (iirc) Jockmcplop, but I couldn't understand why, does anyone know why?

Chezinu this game just feels very different from previous games where he's been town. Still awesome and funny, but different. I'll try and read a previous Chezinu mafia game or two.


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On April 06 2020 15:57 Trfel wrote:
The most recent Chezinu mafia game I could find was six years old. And in that game he was more focused on providing reads, not less. So there goes that idea.


It could also mean we don't know how his most recent mafia play can be. He's posted videos of himself, I went through them, but I don't know if anybody else did. In the day post, it's description sounds like his character likes killing people. I feel like since Rayn and Chez have some kind of alignment instantly, it's like Rayn won't suspect Chez and it'll let him slide by.

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On April 07 2020 02:15 Hapahauli wrote:
You realize that Chez only did two things this game: hard-bus his scumbuddy and give us a wonderful steak recipe... right?


Kinda starts aligning with this. But you mentioned you don't want to discuss this in a later post? Any reason why?

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 18:56 GMT
#544
I'm just trying to bring up the discussion around Chez, it's a plausible theory against Chez.

Who's your target for todays lynch? Is it also BC or are you voting Hap like you kept suggesting in D1?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 19:04 GMT
#546
On April 08 2020 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Have you been reading at all? I think i have been very clear in who i think is mafia.


You made it very clear you think quite a few people are mafia. Your most recent reads include BC/Trfel. I just wanted to make sure you changed your read on Hap is all.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 19:17 GMT
#549
On April 08 2020 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 08 2020 04:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 08 2020 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Have you been reading at all? I think i have been very clear in who i think is mafia.


You made it very clear you think quite a few people are mafia. Your most recent reads include BC/Trfel. I just wanted to make sure you changed your read on Hap is all.

when do you think i changed my read on hapa? can you give me like a post of mine that you think "oh it happens here"?


Here:
On April 08 2020 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think BC is gonna die tomorrow no matter what but i think it is Trfel. No mtter how scummy shockeyy is, i would expect better from Trfel.


That's why I asked, I just assumed you and Hap are aligned after casing BC, which also shows a change in read. You were very adamant on Hap still being mafia here

On April 07 2020 03:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
na-ah. In every way i look at this Hapahauli is still mafia.


But I always figured you were town over Hap. I take your reasoning much heavier than Hap in the long run only because I know you play a great town game, and we've played together before.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 19:22 GMT
#550
On April 08 2020 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also come on man pls if youre town, pls dont murder yourself
i almost cant NOT find shit on other people over you...


I mean in every game we played together, you know my style. Everyone always has a reason to lynch me but I always turn up town, and in all seriousness; I'm just a paranoid town.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 19:28 GMT
#551
Are you taking the lore of the game into account at all?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 23:09 GMT
#560
Chez the pool or the tires? Which one?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 08 2020 00:35 GMT
#562
I just finished my meetings for today, have a possible D&D setup today, yet this game is so quiet. Anybody around?
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