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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 11:57 GMT
#180
heh, well at least people didn't hop on me "not knowing what a VT pm looks like".
what about the other stuff i said?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 12:00 GMT
#181
I am just gonna say Vivax, if you think i would ever as mafia townread someone for absolutely nothing (i have weird reasons - for other people - to townread people at times as either alignment, but for nothing is not one of them), i dont think you know me that well. This is not even saying i can't be mafia it's just saying that reasoning of yours is absolutely idiotic.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 12:13 GMT
#183
Very well, if we lose and/because of you couldnt figure out Hapa then i think that's on you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 12:14 GMT
#184
I dont think there is too little in his filter tbh.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 12:21 GMT
#186
I dont think you have explained Trfel though, at least i have a hard time knowing where you stand on him and why.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 12:32 GMT
#188
What is that logic you're talking about and why wouldn't a guy who is mafia stay calm in Trfele's case? I mean like do you have something to support your assumption that Trfel would freak out for what you said to him if he is mafia or?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 12:38 GMT
#191
the thing is the logic is completely wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 12:46 GMT
#193
I mentioned it btw because while it is incredibly wrong i think you wouldn't not take advantage of that if you were mafia (and if he was town). It is still incredibly wrong and i am not sure how your answer (and read on him) clears up the confusion about that because you should be re-evaluating shit when people tell you something is fundamentally wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 12:53 GMT
#194
btw
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 13:12 GMT
#196
Maybe i am just bad but i don't really understand you right now because you seem to be saying Trfel is not mafia but your vote is still on him?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 13:24 GMT
#198
wow maybe vivax is indeed right.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 13:33 GMT
#200
On April 05 2020 21:15 Jockmcplop wrote:

Everyone else can die until we find scum, probably in the following order, scummiest first:

haphauli - Not really much to say other than I agree with bloody and rayn but he needs to come and be town or he gets lynched.

Rels Nothing.

Shockeyy Need to see more from shockeyy but he seems a bit too laid back if you know what i mean. Almost like he can't be bothered. Said he wants to have more interactions with other people so I want to see what happens if he does.

Trfel I have explained. He responded okay to pressure but I still think his case on rayn was poor and he pulled out the 'trying to get people talking' line that mafia loves. I'm trying to avoid tunnelling on him though because I've done that before when he was town.

So yeah my two biggest scumreads have barely posted. I guess that shows where I am in this game at the moment.

into
On April 05 2020 22:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On April 05 2020 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Maybe i am just bad but i don't really understand you right now because you seem to be saying Trfel is not mafia but your vote is still on him?


I'm not saying that.

That one or two sentences he posted made me think town, but because of his tone and the way interacting with him felt to me he's a scumlean. Its not that hard to understand tbh and I said the same thing a few posts up.

My vote was only still on trfel because i hadn't moved it yet.


##unvote
##vote: shockeyy

I gotta nap on it, but it looks like a thing to lynch for sure.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 13:40 GMT
#203
On April 05 2020 22:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
You can do better than that rayn lol.

Ask yourself this, what purpose does me voting for rels or hap serve town right now?

I really don't want to have explain every little thing.

I asked and i got a conclusion of "why would you vote for outside of your top 2 scumreads in a game where there is 2 scum?". Doesnt really matter who plays or who is playing or not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 13:41 GMT
#204
I mean like if you are town and genuinely think Hapahauli is mafia then i see literally no reason for you to vote otherwise based on what you have said.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 13:43 GMT
#206
Fine, we can see what that does to you after Hapa flips mafia. Because after that i am 100% rooting to kill you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 14:03 GMT
#207
I think i need to clarify my stance here. I completely understand that there are other reasons (even "good ones") to vote for someone other than to lynch. I just don't see how it applies to your situation here at all Jock.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 14:10 GMT
#209
On April 05 2020 23:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Typically, a town mindset is "I think you are scum, therefore I will convince others to vote for you."

Let's say this is the case considering every player. How did you show this mindset in your first three posts of the game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 14:11 GMT
#210
On April 05 2020 23:07 Hapahauli wrote:
oh hey look Rayn is tunneling me! Sweet sweet old nostalgia.

can you show me even one game where this happened when we were both town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 14:19 GMT
#212
On April 05 2020 23:17 Hapahauli wrote:
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On April 05 2020 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 05 2020 23:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Typically, a town mindset is "I think you are scum, therefore I will convince others to vote for you."

Let's say this is the case considering every player. How did you show this mindset in your first three posts of the game?


My posts have fundamentally different motivations than Jockey.

For one, I don't consider Shockey or Trefel scum-reads. I consider them lynchbait. There's something about their posting that triggers my "gut", and I'd rather try to engage with them early-game and/or think aloud in the thread a bit. Had the thread not kicked up while I was fast asleep, I probably would have continued trying to get them to talk a bit more and open up.

Jockey is instead directly scumreading Trefel.

So why did you feel the need to say what you did in your first three posts then? Why aren't you scumreading Vivax now because he "took your bait" as you described it? Why don't you have anything to say about anything other than Jock even though the thread has kicked up?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 14:25 GMT
#214
I understand that. I still don't think what you're saying now compared to how you opened the game makes any sense as town.

And yeah i am right 99% of the time on the first part, i dont think there is ever been a game when i have tunneled you from the beginning when i have been mafia and you have been town.
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