[N]Emergency Quarantine Mafia - Page 6

On March 28 2020 02:03 LightningStrike wrote:
As for HF being scum: DMA said he was town earlier.

On March 28 2020 02:05 GlowingBear wrote:


DMA?

On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote:



I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game.

Mafia have three main objectives:

• Blend
  
• Sew discontent
  
• Survive

The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems:

1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad.
2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them.
3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad.

Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee.




There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny.

Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible.

Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway".

Kelsier's current mindset if town: ??????
Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on.

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These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons.

Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these.



Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions.



Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta.



Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads.



Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing.

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To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia.

On March 26 2020 19:33 Holyflare wrote:


So you're establishing that you attack me personally and blame the death of the forum on me/my playstyle because I play the game of mafia?

On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:

And this is basically what's interesting right now.

Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda.

##Vote: Holyflare

On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:


Nothing, I was just getting traction.



Chez I'll speak! Are you mafia?



This is in the past, Trfel. Last game I've played with him he was very capable as mafia.



Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad.



Worst post on thread yet. Are these points alignment indicative? What do you believe these guys are? Town? Mafia?



Care to explain? At least explain why you're leaving Chez out.

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And this is basically what's interesting right now.

Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda.

##Vote: Holyflare

On March 26 2020 12:04 Holyflare wrote:


Who am I voting for?

On March 28 2020 02:11 Rels wrote:

do you think HF can't be a jerk as scum?

On March 27 2020 08:46 Holyflare wrote:









These posts, afking and work commitments are why this forum is dead and others thrive.

You post a long case and people agree with it (which is fine because they actually elaborated on reasons why) but other people disagree with it and say absolutely nothing relevant to any of the points within it. There is no debate about what points are constructed or what points make someone mafia, there is no push for me because someone thinks this is a narrative (instead, there is a push for me because people can't read the voting thread). This forum is plagued by people talking AT each other saying meagre sentences like "I think he is town" or "I think he is mafia" and no actual discourse about any points anyone raises.

On March 28 2020 02:14 LightningStrike wrote:

I doubt that he can do this post as scum:

This was the post that alerted my DMA stuff.

On March 28 2020 03:05 GlowingBear wrote:
I told you he is town what a bad switch

On March 28 2020 03:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Welp HF you and your shitty case did it.

On March 28 2020 03:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:


And then voted for the next towniest player? Ehhhhh....