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On March 28 2020 01:00 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 00:58 LightningStrike wrote: On March 28 2020 00:53 GlowingBear wrote: If I'm wrong I'll get out of the quarantine directly to the hospital, will rip someone's mask off and have them coughing on my face until I get covid I wouldn't suggest you do that regardless of your alignment and for your safety >.< Well lecture is about to start and it should last until 11:50 am CST so bbl for a bit! Alright, I'll just punch a bear in the face. With boxing gloves. Naked. But VOTE HOLYFLARE I wouldn't suggest that either regardless of your alignment >.< On March 28 2020 01:39 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 01:37 Rels wrote: HF you have no thought about KSC's posts a few hours ago? I care very little at the moment sorry. I've probably got corona and I'm immuno compromised so I'm a bit distracted. Regardless of your alignment please take care of yourself first >.< | ||
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I would prefer KSC get lynched but Trfel is a pretty close second. He hasn't shown up and I can lynch him on the same logic I don't like KSC for. | ||
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On March 28 2020 02:03 LightningStrike wrote: As for HF being scum: DMA said he was town earlier. DMA? | ||
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On March 28 2020 02:05 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 02:03 LightningStrike wrote: As for HF being scum: DMA said he was town earlier. DMA? Dick Move Analysis like he would be to much of a dick to not be town for that action. | ||
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On March 28 2020 02:05 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 02:05 GlowingBear wrote: On March 28 2020 02:03 LightningStrike wrote: As for HF being scum: DMA said he was town earlier. DMA? Dick Move Analysis like he would be to much of a dick to not be town for that action. As in he would have to be town because of doing a very much of a dick move. | ||
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On March 28 2020 02:05 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 02:05 GlowingBear wrote: On March 28 2020 02:03 LightningStrike wrote: As for HF being scum: DMA said he was town earlier. DMA? Dick Move Analysis like he would be to much of a dick to not be town for that action. Really, LS? ... | ||
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On March 28 2020 01:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 01:37 Rels wrote: HF you have no thought about KSC's posts a few hours ago? I don't see how KSC has redeemed himself I thought his posts were alright, and I really like that line: On March 27 2020 20:27 KelsierSC wrote: hf could be mafia but I won't make anyway headway with that right now after I AFK'd , just looks like OMGUS I feel that it's pretty honest. I don't know if he would have dared make that line as scum | ||
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On March 28 2020 02:05 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 02:05 GlowingBear wrote: On March 28 2020 02:03 LightningStrike wrote: As for HF being scum: DMA said he was town earlier. DMA? Dick Move Analysis like he would be to much of a dick to not be town for that action. do you think HF can't be a jerk as scum? | ||
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On March 28 2020 02:11 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 02:05 LightningStrike wrote: On March 28 2020 02:05 GlowingBear wrote: On March 28 2020 02:03 LightningStrike wrote: As for HF being scum: DMA said he was town earlier. DMA? Dick Move Analysis like he would be to much of a dick to not be town for that action. do you think HF can't be a jerk as scum? I doubt that he can do this post as scum: On March 27 2020 08:46 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote: If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia. For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote: and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game. Mafia have three main objectives:
The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems: 1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad. 2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them. 3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad. Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee. On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about? I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case. On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote: Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead ) going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted. LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads. no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache. the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone. There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny. Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible. Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway". Kelsier's current mindset if town: ?????? Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on. These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons. Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these. On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote: On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 03:03 Fecalfeast wrote: Setup Information The exact roles in this game are as follows: Antivaxxer Coughing Boomer American Doctor 8x Healthy Boomer fixed This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting. Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least. you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts? lul x2 Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions. On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read. Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta. On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads. On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing. To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia. Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad. Show nested quote + On March 26 2020 19:08 KelsierSC wrote: First night a few hours after the game begins I am trying to get a feel for the game . Few interactions and give my opinion on what's happened so far. I call a bad case on sentinel a bad case and then give my thoughts before I have to head out. Nothing special or particularly concrete. Some general d1 thoughts. Come back to some giant case against me that quotes almost my entire filter. Im not going to spend D1 defending myself from obnoxious bullshit ty. Show nested quote + On March 26 2020 19:37 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 19:33 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 19:08 KelsierSC wrote: First night a few hours after the game begins I am trying to get a feel for the game . Few interactions and give my opinion on what's happened so far. I call a bad case on sentinel a bad case and then give my thoughts before I have to head out. Nothing special or particularly concrete. Some general d1 thoughts. Come back to some giant case against me that quotes almost my entire filter. Im not going to spend D1 defending myself from obnoxious bullshit ty. So you're establishing that you attack me personally and blame the death of the forum on me/my playstyle because I play the game of mafia? You arent playing mafia you are a bully hiding behind your screen. Got no time for you Show nested quote + On March 26 2020 22:56 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up and saw HF also casing KSC although it not the worst case in the world but I aint biting it and KSC's reaction though seems very over the top? Dunno how to feel about that. Palmar's entrance is meh. I hope someone can actually help me read HF this game.... Show nested quote + On March 27 2020 03:25 ShoCkeyy wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: And this is basically what's interesting right now. Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda. ##Vote: Holyflare I also found this interesting as well. I don't get the push on either or, which is why I didn't even buy into it, yet Palmar followed along anyways. Show nested quote + On March 27 2020 03:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: On March 26 2020 10:12 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:56 GlowingBear wrote: LS, I was pushing Rels just to get some traction in the thread. HF, is Vivax town? And what you got out of that push onto Rels? Nothing, I was just getting traction. On March 26 2020 10:17 Chezinu wrote: On March 26 2020 09:49 GlowingBear wrote: zZz Hello! Wakey wakey little teddy bear! oh how memorizing you are! Please speak to me! Chez I'll speak! Are you mafia? On March 26 2020 11:31 Trfel wrote: On March 26 2020 10:58 Rels wrote: Vivax typically has trouble Day 1 as mafia, here he seems present and quite comfortable.On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? why? This is in the past, Trfel. Last game I've played with him he was very capable as mafia. On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote: If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia. For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote: and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game. Mafia have three main objectives:
The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems: 1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad. 2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them. 3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad. Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee. On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about? I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case. On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote: Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead ) going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted. LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads. no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache. the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone. There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny. Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible. Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway". Kelsier's current mindset if town: ?????? Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on. These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons. Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these. On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote: On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 03:03 Fecalfeast wrote: Setup Information The exact roles in this game are as follows: Antivaxxer Coughing Boomer American Doctor 8x Healthy Boomer fixed This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting. Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least. you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts? lul x2 Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions. On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read. Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta. On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads. On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing. To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia. Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad. On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote: Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary. However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this. Worst post on thread yet. Are these points alignment indicative? What do you believe these guys are? Town? Mafia? On March 26 2020 18:32 Palmar wrote: also the pool of mafia is like trfel, shockeyy, ksc and sentinel. Just lynch those 4 and the game is over. Care to explain? At least explain why you're leaving Chez out. --- And this is basically what's interesting right now. Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda. ##Vote: Holyflare So I wasn't the only one who actually thought this as well even I didn't say it in the thread but I been thinking that for sure. I will vote HF with you. ##Vote: Holyflare Show nested quote + On March 26 2020 12:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:04 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 11:10 Rels wrote: On March 26 2020 10:23 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 08:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 07:04 Holyflare wrote: Time to vote Sentinel. Struggles with thread entrance, copies my nonchalant-ness to LS. Reads fake, easy mafia. ##vote Sentinel "I'm voting for you because you did what I did" That's not how you start a wagon silly You did exactly what I did directly after me. It wasn't original or funny, it was just a mimic of someone who is town in an attempt to blend in. Everything you have done is neither constructive nor helpful. Even this quoted post doesn't construct a read, nor does it evaluate anything else in the thread or about my alignment or anyone elses. You are mafia, simple as that. is this what you really feel about sent, or is it strongly worded to make the game move? Who am I voting for? It's probably the latter, Rels ##vote [UoN]Sentinel These posts, afking and work commitments are why this forum is dead and others thrive. You post a long case and people agree with it (which is fine because they actually elaborated on reasons why) but other people disagree with it and say absolutely nothing relevant to any of the points within it. There is no debate about what points are constructed or what points make someone mafia, there is no push for me because someone thinks this is a narrative (instead, there is a push for me because people can't read the voting thread). This forum is plagued by people talking AT each other saying meagre sentences like "I think he is town" or "I think he is mafia" and no actual discourse about any points anyone raises. This was the post that alerted my DMA stuff. | ||
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On March 28 2020 02:14 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 02:11 Rels wrote: On March 28 2020 02:05 LightningStrike wrote: On March 28 2020 02:05 GlowingBear wrote: On March 28 2020 02:03 LightningStrike wrote: As for HF being scum: DMA said he was town earlier. DMA? Dick Move Analysis like he would be to much of a dick to not be town for that action. do you think HF can't be a jerk as scum? I doubt that he can do this post as scum: Show nested quote + On March 27 2020 08:46 Holyflare wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote: If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia. For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote: and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game. Mafia have three main objectives:
The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems: 1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad. 2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them. 3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad. Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee. On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about? I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case. On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote: Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead ) going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted. LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads. no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache. the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone. There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny. Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible. Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway". Kelsier's current mindset if town: ?????? Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on. These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons. Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these. On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote: On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 03:03 Fecalfeast wrote: Setup Information The exact roles in this game are as follows: Antivaxxer Coughing Boomer American Doctor 8x Healthy Boomer fixed This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting. Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least. you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts? lul x2 Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions. On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read. Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta. On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads. On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing. To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia. Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad. On March 26 2020 19:08 KelsierSC wrote: First night a few hours after the game begins I am trying to get a feel for the game . Few interactions and give my opinion on what's happened so far. I call a bad case on sentinel a bad case and then give my thoughts before I have to head out. Nothing special or particularly concrete. Some general d1 thoughts. Come back to some giant case against me that quotes almost my entire filter. Im not going to spend D1 defending myself from obnoxious bullshit ty. On March 26 2020 19:37 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 19:33 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 19:08 KelsierSC wrote: First night a few hours after the game begins I am trying to get a feel for the game . Few interactions and give my opinion on what's happened so far. I call a bad case on sentinel a bad case and then give my thoughts before I have to head out. Nothing special or particularly concrete. Some general d1 thoughts. Come back to some giant case against me that quotes almost my entire filter. Im not going to spend D1 defending myself from obnoxious bullshit ty. So you're establishing that you attack me personally and blame the death of the forum on me/my playstyle because I play the game of mafia? You arent playing mafia you are a bully hiding behind your screen. Got no time for you On March 26 2020 22:56 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up and saw HF also casing KSC although it not the worst case in the world but I aint biting it and KSC's reaction though seems very over the top? Dunno how to feel about that. Palmar's entrance is meh. I hope someone can actually help me read HF this game.... On March 27 2020 03:25 ShoCkeyy wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: And this is basically what's interesting right now. Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda. ##Vote: Holyflare I also found this interesting as well. I don't get the push on either or, which is why I didn't even buy into it, yet Palmar followed along anyways. On March 27 2020 03:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: On March 26 2020 10:12 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:56 GlowingBear wrote: LS, I was pushing Rels just to get some traction in the thread. HF, is Vivax town? And what you got out of that push onto Rels? Nothing, I was just getting traction. On March 26 2020 10:17 Chezinu wrote: On March 26 2020 09:49 GlowingBear wrote: zZz Hello! Wakey wakey little teddy bear! oh how memorizing you are! Please speak to me! Chez I'll speak! Are you mafia? On March 26 2020 11:31 Trfel wrote: On March 26 2020 10:58 Rels wrote: Vivax typically has trouble Day 1 as mafia, here he seems present and quite comfortable.On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? why? This is in the past, Trfel. Last game I've played with him he was very capable as mafia. On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote: If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia. For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote: and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game. Mafia have three main objectives:
The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems: 1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad. 2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them. 3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad. Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee. On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about? I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case. On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote: Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead ) going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted. LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads. no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache. the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone. There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny. Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible. Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway". Kelsier's current mindset if town: ?????? Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on. These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons. Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these. On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote: On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 03:03 Fecalfeast wrote: Setup Information The exact roles in this game are as follows: Antivaxxer Coughing Boomer American Doctor 8x Healthy Boomer fixed This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting. Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least. you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts? lul x2 Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions. On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read. Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta. On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads. On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing. To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia. Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad. On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote: Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary. However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this. Worst post on thread yet. Are these points alignment indicative? What do you believe these guys are? Town? Mafia? On March 26 2020 18:32 Palmar wrote: also the pool of mafia is like trfel, shockeyy, ksc and sentinel. Just lynch those 4 and the game is over. Care to explain? At least explain why you're leaving Chez out. --- And this is basically what's interesting right now. Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda. ##Vote: Holyflare So I wasn't the only one who actually thought this as well even I didn't say it in the thread but I been thinking that for sure. I will vote HF with you. ##Vote: Holyflare On March 26 2020 12:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:04 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 11:10 Rels wrote: On March 26 2020 10:23 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 08:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 07:04 Holyflare wrote: Time to vote Sentinel. Struggles with thread entrance, copies my nonchalant-ness to LS. Reads fake, easy mafia. ##vote Sentinel "I'm voting for you because you did what I did" That's not how you start a wagon silly You did exactly what I did directly after me. It wasn't original or funny, it was just a mimic of someone who is town in an attempt to blend in. Everything you have done is neither constructive nor helpful. Even this quoted post doesn't construct a read, nor does it evaluate anything else in the thread or about my alignment or anyone elses. You are mafia, simple as that. is this what you really feel about sent, or is it strongly worded to make the game move? Who am I voting for? It's probably the latter, Rels ##vote [UoN]Sentinel These posts, afking and work commitments are why this forum is dead and others thrive. You post a long case and people agree with it (which is fine because they actually elaborated on reasons why) but other people disagree with it and say absolutely nothing relevant to any of the points within it. There is no debate about what points are constructed or what points make someone mafia, there is no push for me because someone thinks this is a narrative (instead, there is a push for me because people can't read the voting thread). This forum is plagued by people talking AT each other saying meagre sentences like "I think he is town" or "I think he is mafia" and no actual discourse about any points anyone raises. This was the post that alerted my DMA stuff. He can 100% do this as Mafia. Anyone can do this as Mafia. Whining is very easy to do. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On March 28 2020 02:15 LightningStrike wrote: Unless you think HF faked that anger in that post and was being a total dick about it he should be town for that post alone. Yes, I think he faked because if he was so emotional about not having people talking about his case, he should at least be interested in posts commenting about his case. It's simple as that. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
He is never going to be a lurky shit scum. He's going to be loud and controversial through the game. If by day 2-3 he hasn't done anything useful or been right on anything we just kill him. We need to take out the background trash on day 1, that is how you play day 1. Shockeyy has done literally nothing except making some excuses and throwing some random shit around. Hell even the fact that he's a late voter is a tiny mafia tell. Murder him. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On March 28 2020 02:15 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 02:14 LightningStrike wrote: On March 28 2020 02:11 Rels wrote: On March 28 2020 02:05 LightningStrike wrote: On March 28 2020 02:05 GlowingBear wrote: On March 28 2020 02:03 LightningStrike wrote: As for HF being scum: DMA said he was town earlier. DMA? Dick Move Analysis like he would be to much of a dick to not be town for that action. do you think HF can't be a jerk as scum? I doubt that he can do this post as scum: On March 27 2020 08:46 Holyflare wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote: If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia. For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote: and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game. Mafia have three main objectives:
The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems: 1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad. 2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them. 3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad. Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee. On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about? I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case. On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote: Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead ) going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted. LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads. no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache. the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone. There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny. Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible. Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway". Kelsier's current mindset if town: ?????? Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on. These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons. Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these. On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote: On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 03:03 Fecalfeast wrote: Setup Information The exact roles in this game are as follows: Antivaxxer Coughing Boomer American Doctor 8x Healthy Boomer fixed This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting. Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least. you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts? lul x2 Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions. On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read. Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta. On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads. On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing. To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia. Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad. On March 26 2020 19:08 KelsierSC wrote: First night a few hours after the game begins I am trying to get a feel for the game . Few interactions and give my opinion on what's happened so far. I call a bad case on sentinel a bad case and then give my thoughts before I have to head out. Nothing special or particularly concrete. Some general d1 thoughts. Come back to some giant case against me that quotes almost my entire filter. Im not going to spend D1 defending myself from obnoxious bullshit ty. On March 26 2020 19:37 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 19:33 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 19:08 KelsierSC wrote: First night a few hours after the game begins I am trying to get a feel for the game . Few interactions and give my opinion on what's happened so far. I call a bad case on sentinel a bad case and then give my thoughts before I have to head out. Nothing special or particularly concrete. Some general d1 thoughts. Come back to some giant case against me that quotes almost my entire filter. Im not going to spend D1 defending myself from obnoxious bullshit ty. So you're establishing that you attack me personally and blame the death of the forum on me/my playstyle because I play the game of mafia? You arent playing mafia you are a bully hiding behind your screen. Got no time for you On March 26 2020 22:56 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up and saw HF also casing KSC although it not the worst case in the world but I aint biting it and KSC's reaction though seems very over the top? Dunno how to feel about that. Palmar's entrance is meh. I hope someone can actually help me read HF this game.... On March 27 2020 03:25 ShoCkeyy wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: And this is basically what's interesting right now. Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda. ##Vote: Holyflare I also found this interesting as well. I don't get the push on either or, which is why I didn't even buy into it, yet Palmar followed along anyways. On March 27 2020 03:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: On March 26 2020 10:12 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:56 GlowingBear wrote: LS, I was pushing Rels just to get some traction in the thread. HF, is Vivax town? And what you got out of that push onto Rels? Nothing, I was just getting traction. On March 26 2020 10:17 Chezinu wrote: On March 26 2020 09:49 GlowingBear wrote: zZz Hello! Wakey wakey little teddy bear! oh how memorizing you are! Please speak to me! Chez I'll speak! Are you mafia? On March 26 2020 11:31 Trfel wrote: On March 26 2020 10:58 Rels wrote: Vivax typically has trouble Day 1 as mafia, here he seems present and quite comfortable.On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? why? This is in the past, Trfel. Last game I've played with him he was very capable as mafia. On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote: If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia. For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote: and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game. Mafia have three main objectives:
The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems: 1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad. 2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them. 3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad. Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee. On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about? I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case. On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote: Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead ) going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted. LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads. no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache. the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone. There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny. Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible. Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway". Kelsier's current mindset if town: ?????? Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on. These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons. Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these. On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote: On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: [quote] fixed This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting. Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least. you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts? lul x2 Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions. On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read. Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta. On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads. On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing. To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia. Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad. On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote: Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary. However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this. Worst post on thread yet. Are these points alignment indicative? What do you believe these guys are? Town? Mafia? On March 26 2020 18:32 Palmar wrote: also the pool of mafia is like trfel, shockeyy, ksc and sentinel. Just lynch those 4 and the game is over. Care to explain? At least explain why you're leaving Chez out. --- And this is basically what's interesting right now. Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda. ##Vote: Holyflare So I wasn't the only one who actually thought this as well even I didn't say it in the thread but I been thinking that for sure. I will vote HF with you. ##Vote: Holyflare On March 26 2020 12:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:04 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 11:10 Rels wrote: On March 26 2020 10:23 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 08:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 07:04 Holyflare wrote: Time to vote Sentinel. Struggles with thread entrance, copies my nonchalant-ness to LS. Reads fake, easy mafia. ##vote Sentinel "I'm voting for you because you did what I did" That's not how you start a wagon silly You did exactly what I did directly after me. It wasn't original or funny, it was just a mimic of someone who is town in an attempt to blend in. Everything you have done is neither constructive nor helpful. Even this quoted post doesn't construct a read, nor does it evaluate anything else in the thread or about my alignment or anyone elses. You are mafia, simple as that. is this what you really feel about sent, or is it strongly worded to make the game move? Who am I voting for? It's probably the latter, Rels ##vote [UoN]Sentinel These posts, afking and work commitments are why this forum is dead and others thrive. You post a long case and people agree with it (which is fine because they actually elaborated on reasons why) but other people disagree with it and say absolutely nothing relevant to any of the points within it. There is no debate about what points are constructed or what points make someone mafia, there is no push for me because someone thinks this is a narrative (instead, there is a push for me because people can't read the voting thread). This forum is plagued by people talking AT each other saying meagre sentences like "I think he is town" or "I think he is mafia" and no actual discourse about any points anyone raises. This was the post that alerted my DMA stuff. He can 100% do this as Mafia. Anyone can do this as Mafia. Whining is very easy to do. I agree. LS I think that's a bad argument | ||
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GlowingBear
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On March 28 2020 02:16 Palmar wrote: It's a bad idea to lynch HF at the moment. He is never going to be a lurky shit scum. He's going to be loud and controversial through the game. If by day 2-3 he hasn't done anything useful or been right on anything we just kill him. We need to take out the background trash on day 1, that is how you play day 1. Shockeyy has done literally nothing except making some excuses and throwing some random shit around. Hell even the fact that he's a late voter is a tiny mafia tell. Murder him. I'm sorry, I can't keep playing any more games where he is glaringly scum and gets a pass just because he is Holyflare, and somehow manages to win in the end. I'm voting no one else but him until I die. | ||
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LightningStrike
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On March 28 2020 02:15 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 02:14 LightningStrike wrote: On March 28 2020 02:11 Rels wrote: On March 28 2020 02:05 LightningStrike wrote: On March 28 2020 02:05 GlowingBear wrote: On March 28 2020 02:03 LightningStrike wrote: As for HF being scum: DMA said he was town earlier. DMA? Dick Move Analysis like he would be to much of a dick to not be town for that action. do you think HF can't be a jerk as scum? I doubt that he can do this post as scum: On March 27 2020 08:46 Holyflare wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote: If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia. For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote: and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game. Mafia have three main objectives:
The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems: 1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad. 2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them. 3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad. Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee. On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about? I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case. On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote: Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead ) going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted. LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads. no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache. the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone. There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny. Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible. Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway". Kelsier's current mindset if town: ?????? Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on. These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons. Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these. On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote: On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 03:03 Fecalfeast wrote: Setup Information The exact roles in this game are as follows: Antivaxxer Coughing Boomer American Doctor 8x Healthy Boomer fixed This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting. Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least. you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts? lul x2 Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions. On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read. Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta. On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads. On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing. To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia. Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad. On March 26 2020 19:08 KelsierSC wrote: First night a few hours after the game begins I am trying to get a feel for the game . Few interactions and give my opinion on what's happened so far. I call a bad case on sentinel a bad case and then give my thoughts before I have to head out. Nothing special or particularly concrete. Some general d1 thoughts. Come back to some giant case against me that quotes almost my entire filter. Im not going to spend D1 defending myself from obnoxious bullshit ty. On March 26 2020 19:37 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 19:33 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 19:08 KelsierSC wrote: First night a few hours after the game begins I am trying to get a feel for the game . Few interactions and give my opinion on what's happened so far. I call a bad case on sentinel a bad case and then give my thoughts before I have to head out. Nothing special or particularly concrete. Some general d1 thoughts. Come back to some giant case against me that quotes almost my entire filter. Im not going to spend D1 defending myself from obnoxious bullshit ty. So you're establishing that you attack me personally and blame the death of the forum on me/my playstyle because I play the game of mafia? You arent playing mafia you are a bully hiding behind your screen. Got no time for you On March 26 2020 22:56 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up and saw HF also casing KSC although it not the worst case in the world but I aint biting it and KSC's reaction though seems very over the top? Dunno how to feel about that. Palmar's entrance is meh. I hope someone can actually help me read HF this game.... On March 27 2020 03:25 ShoCkeyy wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: And this is basically what's interesting right now. Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda. ##Vote: Holyflare I also found this interesting as well. I don't get the push on either or, which is why I didn't even buy into it, yet Palmar followed along anyways. On March 27 2020 03:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: On March 26 2020 10:12 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:56 GlowingBear wrote: LS, I was pushing Rels just to get some traction in the thread. HF, is Vivax town? And what you got out of that push onto Rels? Nothing, I was just getting traction. On March 26 2020 10:17 Chezinu wrote: On March 26 2020 09:49 GlowingBear wrote: zZz Hello! Wakey wakey little teddy bear! oh how memorizing you are! Please speak to me! Chez I'll speak! Are you mafia? On March 26 2020 11:31 Trfel wrote: On March 26 2020 10:58 Rels wrote: Vivax typically has trouble Day 1 as mafia, here he seems present and quite comfortable.On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? why? This is in the past, Trfel. Last game I've played with him he was very capable as mafia. On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote: If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia. For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote: and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game. Mafia have three main objectives:
The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems: 1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad. 2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them. 3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad. Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee. On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about? I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case. On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote: Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead ) going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted. LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads. no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache. the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone. There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny. Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible. Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway". Kelsier's current mindset if town: ?????? Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on. These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons. Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these. On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote: On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: [quote] fixed This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting. Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least. you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts? lul x2 Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions. On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read. Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta. On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads. On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing. To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia. Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad. On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote: Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary. However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this. Worst post on thread yet. Are these points alignment indicative? What do you believe these guys are? Town? Mafia? On March 26 2020 18:32 Palmar wrote: also the pool of mafia is like trfel, shockeyy, ksc and sentinel. Just lynch those 4 and the game is over. Care to explain? At least explain why you're leaving Chez out. --- And this is basically what's interesting right now. Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda. ##Vote: Holyflare So I wasn't the only one who actually thought this as well even I didn't say it in the thread but I been thinking that for sure. I will vote HF with you. ##Vote: Holyflare On March 26 2020 12:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:04 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 11:10 Rels wrote: On March 26 2020 10:23 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 08:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 07:04 Holyflare wrote: Time to vote Sentinel. Struggles with thread entrance, copies my nonchalant-ness to LS. Reads fake, easy mafia. ##vote Sentinel "I'm voting for you because you did what I did" That's not how you start a wagon silly You did exactly what I did directly after me. It wasn't original or funny, it was just a mimic of someone who is town in an attempt to blend in. Everything you have done is neither constructive nor helpful. Even this quoted post doesn't construct a read, nor does it evaluate anything else in the thread or about my alignment or anyone elses. You are mafia, simple as that. is this what you really feel about sent, or is it strongly worded to make the game move? Who am I voting for? It's probably the latter, Rels ##vote [UoN]Sentinel These posts, afking and work commitments are why this forum is dead and others thrive. You post a long case and people agree with it (which is fine because they actually elaborated on reasons why) but other people disagree with it and say absolutely nothing relevant to any of the points within it. There is no debate about what points are constructed or what points make someone mafia, there is no push for me because someone thinks this is a narrative (instead, there is a push for me because people can't read the voting thread). This forum is plagued by people talking AT each other saying meagre sentences like "I think he is town" or "I think he is mafia" and no actual discourse about any points anyone raises. This was the post that alerted my DMA stuff. He can 100% do this as Mafia. Anyone can do this as Mafia. Whining is very easy to do. 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On March 28 2020 02:18 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2020 02:15 GlowingBear wrote: On March 28 2020 02:14 LightningStrike wrote: On March 28 2020 02:11 Rels wrote: On March 28 2020 02:05 LightningStrike wrote: On March 28 2020 02:05 GlowingBear wrote: On March 28 2020 02:03 LightningStrike wrote: As for HF being scum: DMA said he was town earlier. DMA? Dick Move Analysis like he would be to much of a dick to not be town for that action. do you think HF can't be a jerk as scum? I doubt that he can do this post as scum: On March 27 2020 08:46 Holyflare wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote: If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia. For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote: and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game. Mafia have three main objectives:
The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems: 1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad. 2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them. 3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad. Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee. On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about? I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case. On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote: Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead ) going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted. LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads. no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache. the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone. There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny. Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible. Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway". Kelsier's current mindset if town: ?????? Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on. These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons. Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these. On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote: On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: [quote] fixed This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting. Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least. you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts? lul x2 Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions. On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read. Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta. On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about? Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads. On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing. To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia. Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad. On March 26 2020 19:08 KelsierSC wrote: First night a few hours after the game begins I am trying to get a feel for the game . Few interactions and give my opinion on what's happened so far. I call a bad case on sentinel a bad case and then give my thoughts before I have to head out. Nothing special or particularly concrete. Some general d1 thoughts. Come back to some giant case against me that quotes almost my entire filter. Im not going to spend D1 defending myself from obnoxious bullshit ty. On March 26 2020 19:37 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 19:33 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 19:08 KelsierSC wrote: First night a few hours after the game begins I am trying to get a feel for the game . Few interactions and give my opinion on what's happened so far. I call a bad case on sentinel a bad case and then give my thoughts before I have to head out. Nothing special or particularly concrete. Some general d1 thoughts. Come back to some giant case against me that quotes almost my entire filter. Im not going to spend D1 defending myself from obnoxious bullshit ty. So you're establishing that you attack me personally and blame the death of the forum on me/my playstyle because I play the game of mafia? You arent playing mafia you are a bully hiding behind your screen. Got no time for you On March 26 2020 22:56 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up and saw HF also casing KSC although it not the worst case in the world but I aint biting it and KSC's reaction though seems very over the top? Dunno how to feel about that. Palmar's entrance is meh. I hope someone can actually help me read HF this game.... On March 27 2020 03:25 ShoCkeyy wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: And this is basically what's interesting right now. Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda. ##Vote: Holyflare I also found this interesting as well. I don't get the push on either or, which is why I didn't even buy into it, yet Palmar followed along anyways. On March 27 2020 03:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: On March 26 2020 10:12 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:56 GlowingBear wrote: LS, I was pushing Rels just to get some traction in the thread. HF, is Vivax town? And what you got out of that push onto Rels? Nothing, I was just getting traction. On March 26 2020 10:17 Chezinu wrote: On March 26 2020 09:49 GlowingBear wrote: zZz Hello! Wakey wakey little teddy bear! oh how memorizing you are! Please speak to me! Chez I'll speak! Are you mafia? On March 26 2020 11:31 Trfel wrote: On March 26 2020 10:58 Rels wrote: Vivax typically has trouble Day 1 as mafia, here he seems present and quite comfortable.On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? why? This is in the past, Trfel. Last game I've played with him he was very capable as mafia. On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote: If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia. For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote: and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game. Mafia have three main objectives:
The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems: 1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad. 2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them. 3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad. Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee. On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about? I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case. On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote: Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead ) going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted. LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads. no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache. the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone. There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny. Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible. Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway". Kelsier's current mindset if town: ?????? Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on. These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons. Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these. On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote: [quote] This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting. Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least. you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts? lul x2 Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions. On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote: Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia! I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no? last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read. Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta. On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town? GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least. Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads. On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote: On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote: [quote] Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell. Bad reads. Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more. The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak. Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing. To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia. Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad. On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote: Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary. However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this. Worst post on thread yet. Are these points alignment indicative? What do you believe these guys are? Town? Mafia? On March 26 2020 18:32 Palmar wrote: also the pool of mafia is like trfel, shockeyy, ksc and sentinel. Just lynch those 4 and the game is over. Care to explain? At least explain why you're leaving Chez out. --- And this is basically what's interesting right now. Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda. ##Vote: Holyflare So I wasn't the only one who actually thought this as well even I didn't say it in the thread but I been thinking that for sure. I will vote HF with you. ##Vote: Holyflare On March 26 2020 12:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 12:04 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 11:10 Rels wrote: On March 26 2020 10:23 Holyflare wrote: On March 26 2020 08:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 26 2020 07:04 Holyflare wrote: Time to vote Sentinel. Struggles with thread entrance, copies my nonchalant-ness to LS. Reads fake, easy mafia. ##vote Sentinel "I'm voting for you because you did what I did" That's not how you start a wagon silly You did exactly what I did directly after me. It wasn't original or funny, it was just a mimic of someone who is town in an attempt to blend in. Everything you have done is neither constructive nor helpful. Even this quoted post doesn't construct a read, nor does it evaluate anything else in the thread or about my alignment or anyone elses. You are mafia, simple as that. is this what you really feel about sent, or is it strongly worded to make the game move? Who am I voting for? It's probably the latter, Rels ##vote [UoN]Sentinel These posts, afking and work commitments are why this forum is dead and others thrive. You post a long case and people agree with it (which is fine because they actually elaborated on reasons why) but other people disagree with it and say absolutely nothing relevant to any of the points within it. There is no debate about what points are constructed or what points make someone mafia, there is no push for me because someone thinks this is a narrative (instead, there is a push for me because people can't read the voting thread). This forum is plagued by people talking AT each other saying meagre sentences like "I think he is town" or "I think he is mafia" and no actual discourse about any points anyone raises. This was the post that alerted my DMA stuff. He can 100% do this as Mafia. Anyone can do this as Mafia. Whining is very easy to do. I agree. LS I think that's a bad argument Guess that makes me bad then  | ||
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