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On April 01 2020 13:27 Chezinu wrote:Why I love the Light I love the Light, because He lets me see. I love the Light, because He makes the dark in me become bright. I love the Light, because He makes me green when I was red. I love the Light, because He makes me trust Him. I love the Light, because He is Bright - I mean He is really really smart. I love the Light, because He lives in me. I love the Light, because He is brighter than the sunshine or the ray. I love the Light, because He is my King. I love the Light, because He is my Father. I love the Light, because He is my Friend. I love the Light, because He speaks. I love the Light, because He makes me dance. I love the Light, because He makes me sing. I love the Light, because He lets me troll! - come here fishies!
Officially OPEN!
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On April 01 2020 13:31 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2020 13:22 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 13:13 Chezinu wrote:On April 01 2020 12:53 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 12:33 Chezinu wrote:On April 01 2020 11:08 Trfel wrote:On April 01 2020 08:46 Rels wrote:On April 01 2020 06:13 Chezinu wrote: Look and behold, I saw a bright beam of light. I gazed at it's frequency and felt the vibrations that hummed:
Rels wanted to lynch Trfel over Sentinel, waited for Palmar, Palmar said nothing new to what he said before. Rels promised to write a case on Trfel. He didn't follow up, and after Sentinel flip the only case he provided is reasoned on because Sentinel was mafia. ggnore I did promise a case lol, that's actually a good town meta tell for me  I would have done it 100% as scum. I would have gotten a Trfel lynch easy as scum in this game lol Oh joy, the wonders of self meta ^^ What is this game devolving into... Time to sheep the Chezinu? Better watch out. Last time town followed the Chez. They got two mafias lynched back to back and one mafia killed by vigi. That was over ten years ago... Since then, the house of brown developed into a fine investigation office known throughout the world Ok, I need to actually read this game and play. After reading the game from a decade ago ( + Show Spoiler +https://tl.net/forum/mafia/105463-mini-mafia-2 ), I laughed so much at my trolls. If only I can troll as before. Do you know why the Chez doesn't build cases? Chez lynches suspects based on hunches. He doesn't know why he suspects who he suspects. It is not found in his conscious mind. So, the bear that glows. If you could troll for another day, what would you troll? I'm killing Trfel and if he flips town I'll kill Rels It's one of them 100% Now, if I could troll for another day, I would troll a check How are you so sure it's not Palmar? Or LightningStrike, for that matter?
Check my post before deadline. I say why I think they're town and their play has been consistent since I first townread them.
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On April 01 2020 13:33 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2020 13:22 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 13:13 Chezinu wrote:On April 01 2020 12:53 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 12:33 Chezinu wrote:On April 01 2020 11:08 Trfel wrote:On April 01 2020 08:46 Rels wrote:On April 01 2020 06:13 Chezinu wrote: Look and behold, I saw a bright beam of light. I gazed at it's frequency and felt the vibrations that hummed:
Rels wanted to lynch Trfel over Sentinel, waited for Palmar, Palmar said nothing new to what he said before. Rels promised to write a case on Trfel. He didn't follow up, and after Sentinel flip the only case he provided is reasoned on because Sentinel was mafia. ggnore I did promise a case lol, that's actually a good town meta tell for me  I would have done it 100% as scum. I would have gotten a Trfel lynch easy as scum in this game lol Oh joy, the wonders of self meta ^^ What is this game devolving into... Time to sheep the Chezinu? Better watch out. Last time town followed the Chez. They got two mafias lynched back to back and one mafia killed by vigi. That was over ten years ago... Since then, the house of brown developed into a fine investigation office known throughout the world Ok, I need to actually read this game and play. After reading the game from a decade ago ( + Show Spoiler +https://tl.net/forum/mafia/105463-mini-mafia-2 ), I laughed so much at my trolls. If only I can troll as before. Do you know why the Chez doesn't build cases? Chez lynches suspects based on hunches. He doesn't know why he suspects who he suspects. It is not found in his conscious mind. So, the bear that glows. If you could troll for another day, what would you troll? I'm killing Trfel and if he flips town I'll kill Rels It's one of them 100% Now, if I could troll for another day, I would troll a check So are you saying that you would be like Trump whom it is reported that he will troll corona stimulus checks with hi signature... which Trump -> Republican -> red? So you would do a red thing?
I'd never do a red thing unless the red thing is within me.
If you could paint me with some color, which color would you paint me?
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On April 01 2020 13:37 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2020 13:33 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 13:31 Trfel wrote:On April 01 2020 13:22 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 13:13 Chezinu wrote:On April 01 2020 12:53 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 12:33 Chezinu wrote:On April 01 2020 11:08 Trfel wrote:On April 01 2020 08:46 Rels wrote:On April 01 2020 06:13 Chezinu wrote: Look and behold, I saw a bright beam of light. I gazed at it's frequency and felt the vibrations that hummed:
Rels wanted to lynch Trfel over Sentinel, waited for Palmar, Palmar said nothing new to what he said before. Rels promised to write a case on Trfel. He didn't follow up, and after Sentinel flip the only case he provided is reasoned on because Sentinel was mafia. ggnore I did promise a case lol, that's actually a good town meta tell for me  I would have done it 100% as scum. I would have gotten a Trfel lynch easy as scum in this game lol Oh joy, the wonders of self meta ^^ What is this game devolving into... Time to sheep the Chezinu? Better watch out. Last time town followed the Chez. They got two mafias lynched back to back and one mafia killed by vigi. That was over ten years ago... Since then, the house of brown developed into a fine investigation office known throughout the world Ok, I need to actually read this game and play. After reading the game from a decade ago ( + Show Spoiler +https://tl.net/forum/mafia/105463-mini-mafia-2 ), I laughed so much at my trolls. If only I can troll as before. Do you know why the Chez doesn't build cases? Chez lynches suspects based on hunches. He doesn't know why he suspects who he suspects. It is not found in his conscious mind. So, the bear that glows. If you could troll for another day, what would you troll? I'm killing Trfel and if he flips town I'll kill Rels It's one of them 100% Now, if I could troll for another day, I would troll a check How are you so sure it's not Palmar? Or LightningStrike, for that matter? Check my post before deadline. I say why I think they're town and their play has been consistent since I first townread them. Ah, sorry. Missed that post in the flurry of deadline stuff. Weren't you one of the people saying that being interested/invested in the game isn't a good metric for people's alignments? What makes the difference in using that metric on LightningStrike as opposed to someone else like Palmar? I'll have to take a look at Palmar's read on [UoN]Sentinel, that's something I have yet to review.
Uhm, I don't remember saying that? I decided to lynch Kelsier, impulsively, because you've put some effort in the game, and Sentinel died because he wasn't interested? I even scumread Holyflare because he seemed not to be interested in solving the game, but fitting people into narratives only.
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On April 01 2020 13:40 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2020 13:32 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 13:27 Chezinu wrote:Why I love the Light I love the Light, because He lets me see. I love the Light, because He makes the dark in me become bright. I love the Light, because He makes me green when I was red. I love the Light, because He makes me trust Him. I love the Light, because He is Bright - I mean He is really really smart. I love the Light, because He lives in me. I love the Light, because He is brighter than the sunshine or the ray. I love the Light, because He is my King. I love the Light, because He is my Father. I love the Light, because He is my Friend. I love the Light, because He speaks. I love the Light, because He makes me dance. I love the Light, because He makes me sing. I love the Light, because He lets me troll! - come here fishies! Officially OPEN! So true! We are but vessels in the potter's hand. We are brown!!! We still have the red in us that we must overcome! But it is not us but the potter that can make this happen for those by His grace have been given the faith to believe His Message. He molds us through His Word! We are being sanctified in this world. Let His thoughts be our thoughts and our thoughts His thought. Let Him fill us with His Spirit! It is finished. Who can stop the Potter? Not one. Therefore, we shall be made perfect for those who believe in His Message. How great it is to be in the Potter's hand!
Amen! All hail the Potter!
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On April 01 2020 13:43 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2020 13:37 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 13:33 Chezinu wrote:On April 01 2020 13:22 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 13:13 Chezinu wrote:On April 01 2020 12:53 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 12:33 Chezinu wrote:On April 01 2020 11:08 Trfel wrote:On April 01 2020 08:46 Rels wrote:On April 01 2020 06:13 Chezinu wrote: Look and behold, I saw a bright beam of light. I gazed at it's frequency and felt the vibrations that hummed:
Rels wanted to lynch Trfel over Sentinel, waited for Palmar, Palmar said nothing new to what he said before. Rels promised to write a case on Trfel. He didn't follow up, and after Sentinel flip the only case he provided is reasoned on because Sentinel was mafia. ggnore I did promise a case lol, that's actually a good town meta tell for me  I would have done it 100% as scum. I would have gotten a Trfel lynch easy as scum in this game lol Oh joy, the wonders of self meta ^^ What is this game devolving into... Time to sheep the Chezinu? Better watch out. Last time town followed the Chez. They got two mafias lynched back to back and one mafia killed by vigi. That was over ten years ago... Since then, the house of brown developed into a fine investigation office known throughout the world Ok, I need to actually read this game and play. After reading the game from a decade ago ( + Show Spoiler +https://tl.net/forum/mafia/105463-mini-mafia-2 ), I laughed so much at my trolls. If only I can troll as before. Do you know why the Chez doesn't build cases? Chez lynches suspects based on hunches. He doesn't know why he suspects who he suspects. It is not found in his conscious mind. So, the bear that glows. If you could troll for another day, what would you troll? I'm killing Trfel and if he flips town I'll kill Rels It's one of them 100% Now, if I could troll for another day, I would troll a check So are you saying that you would be like Trump whom it is reported that he will troll corona stimulus checks with hi signature... which Trump -> Republican -> red? So you would do a red thing? I'd never do a red thing unless the red thing is within me. If you could paint me with some color, which color would you paint me? So true, Only red things come out of the one with red things in him. Just as green things come out of the one with green things within him. We need the Light to see what color the things are that come out of the things. Who has the eyes to see?
All eyes are there to see, but not all eyes sees what it is there to be seen. Some eyes are painted red; others are painted green. What's the difference from these to those who are blind? At least the blind sees with the heart, and the heart is all we have to see.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO WAY CHEZ IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT YOU'RE NOT EDITING THIS
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On April 01 2020 14:13 GlowingBear wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO WAY CHEZ IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT YOU'RE NOT EDITING THIS
I actually have yellowish eyes
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On April 01 2020 14:26 Chezinu wrote:Guys.... I asked the Light... through the Google... I asked about me... I did not receive an answer it seems... But then I asked about Rels and I did receive an answer... Chezinu: + Show Spoiler +Rels: + Show Spoiler +This is for Rels! My Teddy Bear Friend, you may be able to troll a check after all!! LET'S DO THIS HOUSE OF BROWN!!! I KNOW THE BROWN IS IN YOU!!!! RAWRR!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO WAY
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE LIGHT HAS SPOKEN, CHEZ!!
##Unvote ##Vote: Rels
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Thanks, Chez
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You made me see it when I couldn't
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On April 01 2020 23:45 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2020 14:31 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 14:26 Chezinu wrote:Guys.... I asked the Light... through the Google... I asked about me... I did not receive an answer it seems... But then I asked about Rels and I did receive an answer... Chezinu: + Show Spoiler +Rels: + Show Spoiler +This is for Rels! My Teddy Bear Friend, you may be able to troll a check after all!! LET'S DO THIS HOUSE OF BROWN!!! I KNOW THE BROWN IS IN YOU!!!! RAWRR!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO WAY HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE LIGHT HAS SPOKEN, CHEZ!! ##Unvote ##Vote: Rels Is it a April Fools day vote or is it a serious vote and if serious why?
It's a serious vote. Reason:
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On April 02 2020 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2020 00:45 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 23:45 LightningStrike wrote:On April 01 2020 14:31 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 14:26 Chezinu wrote:Guys.... I asked the Light... through the Google... I asked about me... I did not receive an answer it seems... But then I asked about Rels and I did receive an answer... Chezinu: + Show Spoiler +Rels: + Show Spoiler +This is for Rels! My Teddy Bear Friend, you may be able to troll a check after all!! LET'S DO THIS HOUSE OF BROWN!!! I KNOW THE BROWN IS IN YOU!!!! RAWRR!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO WAY HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE LIGHT HAS SPOKEN, CHEZ!! ##Unvote ##Vote: Rels Is it a April Fools day vote or is it a serious vote and if serious why? It's a serious vote. Reason: ![[image loading]](https://uauposters.com.br/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/0/4/047520140430-poster-serie-arquivo-x-files-i-want-to-believe.jpg) Do you have an actual case of why Rels is scum?
I've read what Chezinu said about Rels and I think he could be scum. I think Trfel is worse but I really want Rels to be scum after those images Chez brought.
Check my close to deadline post and you'll see I wasn't very confident Rels is town.
Unless you think Chez is Mafia?
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Trfel, question: how's your read on Palmar now?
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On April 02 2020 09:25 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2020 07:49 GlowingBear wrote:On April 02 2020 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:On April 02 2020 00:45 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 23:45 LightningStrike wrote:On April 01 2020 14:31 GlowingBear wrote:On April 01 2020 14:26 Chezinu wrote:Guys.... I asked the Light... through the Google... I asked about me... I did not receive an answer it seems... But then I asked about Rels and I did receive an answer... Chezinu: + Show Spoiler +Rels: + Show Spoiler +This is for Rels! My Teddy Bear Friend, you may be able to troll a check after all!! LET'S DO THIS HOUSE OF BROWN!!! I KNOW THE BROWN IS IN YOU!!!! RAWRR!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO WAY HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE LIGHT HAS SPOKEN, CHEZ!! ##Unvote ##Vote: Rels Is it a April Fools day vote or is it a serious vote and if serious why? It's a serious vote. Reason: ![[image loading]](https://uauposters.com.br/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/0/4/047520140430-poster-serie-arquivo-x-files-i-want-to-believe.jpg) Do you have an actual case of why Rels is scum? I've read what Chezinu said about Rels and I think he could be scum. I think Trfel is worse but I really want Rels to be scum after those images Chez brought. Check my close to deadline post and you'll see I wasn't very confident Rels is town. Unless you think Chez is Mafia? wait I thought you were trolling with your vote. What do you mean, after those images? Is there a hidden case that I missed?
He asked the Light via Google, and the Light answered your color: red
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On April 02 2020 10:43 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2020 09:24 GlowingBear wrote: Trfel, question: how's your read on Palmar now? I don't know. I've been busy, I haven't had a chance to re-evaluate yet. It would be mafia, except he was suspicious of [UoN]Sentinel early on and people have pointed to that as a reason to townread Palmar. I need to look into that myself and see how much truth and weight it holds. I'm hoping to do so later tonight. Show nested quote +On April 02 2020 09:32 Rels wrote: If Palmar is also not trolling, his vote on me makes me uneasy. It doesn't match the "game is simple" mindset of earlier. Would explain the Vivax NK too.
But the fact that Trfel doesn't see that and continue his Palmar push, but instead takes the opportunity of jumping on me when people are voting me ... lol. 99% scum. I'm not scumreading you. But I might, if you keep attacking me with zero reason just because people are suspecting you. Palmar's play does look kinda bad though. At least he voted for Rels early on, before it was known that GlowingBear and Chezinu would agree, but it does seem to come out of nowhere and had no explanation. Gotta look into that later.
Trfel I don't know, man. I read everything you post and it always comes awkward to me. I don't think you're not reading the game, and you are in fact putting a bit of effort. But the only thoughts that sounds original are the ones you've wrote about Palmar, one of your scum reads since day1. The rest, you just seem to react when it's convenient. If you're town, I'm sorry, but that's how it feels to me.
Every post you say you're confused. Every town is, especially in a game like this one. I have at least one reason to suspect each player in the game. That's part of it. But I don't see you going after someone you think it's really scummy.
The only one I'd expect you to go after is Palmar. But when chez posts something about Rels, you decide he is the best shot, when your main scumread is voting him. Also, a huge part of the case on Rels is flipped association with Sentinel. Which is the exact same reason we scum read you and you said it was stupid.
I don't really think you believe in what you're saying every time you post
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On April 02 2020 12:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2020 11:36 GlowingBear wrote:On April 02 2020 10:43 Trfel wrote:On April 02 2020 09:24 GlowingBear wrote: Trfel, question: how's your read on Palmar now? I don't know. I've been busy, I haven't had a chance to re-evaluate yet. It would be mafia, except he was suspicious of [UoN]Sentinel early on and people have pointed to that as a reason to townread Palmar. I need to look into that myself and see how much truth and weight it holds. I'm hoping to do so later tonight. On April 02 2020 09:32 Rels wrote: If Palmar is also not trolling, his vote on me makes me uneasy. It doesn't match the "game is simple" mindset of earlier. Would explain the Vivax NK too.
But the fact that Trfel doesn't see that and continue his Palmar push, but instead takes the opportunity of jumping on me when people are voting me ... lol. 99% scum. I'm not scumreading you. But I might, if you keep attacking me with zero reason just because people are suspecting you. Palmar's play does look kinda bad though. At least he voted for Rels early on, before it was known that GlowingBear and Chezinu would agree, but it does seem to come out of nowhere and had no explanation. Gotta look into that later. Trfel I don't know, man. I read everything you post and it always comes awkward to me. I don't think you're not reading the game, and you are in fact putting a bit of effort. But the only thoughts that sounds original are the ones you've wrote about Palmar, one of your scum reads since day1. The rest, you just seem to react when it's convenient. If you're town, I'm sorry, but that's how it feels to me. Every post you say you're confused. Every town is, especially in a game like this one. I have at least one reason to suspect each player in the game. That's part of it. But I don't see you going after someone you think it's really scummy. The only one I'd expect you to go after is Palmar. But when chez posts something about Rels, you decide he is the best shot, when your main scumread is voting him. Also, a huge part of the case on Rels is flipped association with Sentinel. Which is the exact same reason we scum read you and you said it was stupid. I don't really think you believe in what you're saying every time you post Again, I'M NOT GOING AFTER RELS!!!
Trfel, I'll take a step back and assume you're 100% town, so we can have a conversation without me thinking you're trying to trick me.
Now, let's also assume Mafia could've bussed Sentinel or not, in which case votecount isn't helpful.
Trying to make associations with filters won't help either, since both you and Rels had suspicious posts regarding Sentinel, and you can't both be Mafia.
We will have to rely solely on how people have been playing.
Who is most likely scum, solely for how they have been playing?
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Trfel, I've read all you've posted except for LS. If LS is mafia, he won the game. He's based town for me and I'm sure he will be the night kill tonight.
About Rels: Half of your case is assuming mafia would bus and his vote on Sentinel proves he is mafia. The second half is that Rels isn't really inspiring in this game and is parroting people, not really bringing lots of original thoughts. This I agree and was the reason I was wary of him.
About Palmar: Most of your points can be applied to anyone. 4th point is associative and it could be applied to me, for instance, that decided to switch from my top scumread to a townread (100% bad play). Not explaining too much of his reads isn't a mafia trait, he just said what he thinks and I find that pretty genuine. I also prefer not to say much, one liners are enough. He keeps saying "keep the game simple" and he is doing that. The only point I think you can be right is being uninterested. That could come from both alignments anyway.
Now, I'm not saying Palmar couldn't be mafia. I'm saying these points aren't really convincing me. You know what does make me think Palmar could be mafia? Sentinel trying to have me lynched instead of Palmar.
I would be lynching you today, although I like that you're trying and if you are town, it wouldn't be the first time I was dumb enough to not see it. But Chez made me want to believe Rels is mafia and I think it's fun. If the flips red I'll always follow the House of Brown.
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I have to work a lot today, so I won't be able to reevaluate much. I'll be back in an hour to see if there's anything new.
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On April 02 2020 23:02 Palmar wrote: I genuinely think Chez made a really good case for killing Rels.
I am sticking with that.
Hi Palmar,
Could you please explain Chez case? TBH, I don't really get it. I just want google to be right.
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On April 03 2020 00:18 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2020 23:40 GlowingBear wrote:On April 02 2020 23:02 Palmar wrote: I genuinely think Chez made a really good case for killing Rels.
I am sticking with that. Hi Palmar, Could you please explain Chez case? TBH, I don't really get it. I just want google to be right. I had a ray of thought. It goes like this: I dont think rels' defense is valid. Its true he probably could have made a case on trfel and even get him lynched d2 but actually bussing sentinel who already apparently did his job n1 is the best play for anyone who is mafia. Sentinel is gonna get lynched anyways, if not d2 then d3. So why not gain town credit while he can? The incriminatimg part is that when there is only one mafia left, rels is sure trfel is the last mafia and STILL hasnt made the "sure mafia" case, other than that what sentinel has posted. And thats bull. When people think they found they are proud of it and want other people to know it, i mean as town. Rels isnt. "Why would i do that as mafia" doesnt cut it because i dont care, as i dont know what mafia "would" do other than that what i would do. Rels isnt acting like a townie should, before or after sentinel flip.
Mr Brown, it was Palmar's duty to say this :/ I disagree with the bus. If that's the case, then I could've bussed, Palmar could've bussed, everyone could've bussed. So this shouldn't be taken into account.
But I agree that if Rels is Mafia, it's better do let Sentinel be lynched instead of convincing other person is Mafia. But the same could be said about Trfel. What's the difference between them?
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