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On March 30 2020 08:22 Trfel wrote:GlowingBear, here, right at the start of your filter: Show nested quote +On March 26 2020 03:10 GlowingBear wrote:On March 26 2020 03:09 LightningStrike wrote: Anyone want to help me find mafia? Hi LS Yes. Are you Mafia? So why won't you help me "find mafia"? You know that doesn't mean I'm necessarily town in your eyes, or you wouldn't have said that to LightningStrike at the start of the game. I just don't get the inconsistency, are you trying to aggravate me?
Uhm, how is this related to helping you finding Mafia or not? Why do we have to buddy up so you can start scum hunting?
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On March 30 2020 08:40 Trfel wrote: Never mind, I don't care anymore. I just like having someone to bounce ideas off of and not feel like my thoughts are going out into nothingness.
I see your one-liner on Palmar now, my apologies, I missed it. Can you please explain again why Palmar's list post makes him town? I get that you like that he takes hard stances, but his stances are unexplained and make no sense. You said he's being objective, I'm challenging you to prove it.
Have you read anything I've posted on Palmar?
Maybe I've misinterpreted what you meant with "helping" you. If you meant "discuss with me", I'm willing to. But I'll only comment on things you'll bring up. I've already discussed a lot and I want your original ideas without my influence.
Yes, I've read what you've brought on Palmar. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you think he is trying to pass as obvious town when he isn't, and that's the reason he is Mafia. Is that so?
The fact that he gave his reads without flourishing shows how objective he is. I believe he is being sincere. He comes to the thread, says: I think this because of this, therefore this guy is town and this is Mafia. It's clear what he thinks. It doesn't appear he is trying to fabricate anything.
All the reasons he brought are ok. There's no need to build a huge case. He thinks your content is uninspiring and for that reason you could be Mafia. It's okay to think that. Be believes sentinels filter is horrible, and he is right. There are a lot of questions without actual interest in the answers. He says LS is town because he says so, when I'm sure he meant "I have no reason to actually call LS town but I feel he is" and that's exactly how I feel. He says Chez is a question mark but be doesn't want to lunch him now and that's also how I feel.
Anyway, isn't saying everything you need in one line a way to be objective?
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On March 30 2020 11:33 Trfel wrote: Rels, care to respond to my post earlier this page to you?
GlowingBear, that's not why I am suspicious of Palmar. In short, Palmar doesn't care what happens, who gets lynched, or who is mafia, and I believe that makes him likely mafia. I'll see if I can explain it better later tonight when I am on a computer.
I'm not sure he doesn't care, he is voting his scum read accordingly. If we lynch everyone who apparently isn't caring in this game, we would have to lynch half of the player list
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On March 30 2020 15:57 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2020 22:40 LightningStrike wrote:Barely awake was to tired to post last night On March 27 2020 11:01 Trfel wrote: GlowingBear and everyone else, care to respond to the actual points I've raised instead of meaningless nonsense?
Getting kinda sick of this.
Yes, I'm confused because one of my main scumreads is voting for the other one. I'm not confident enough in my reads to vote, given the circumstance. If you have any actual help or comments on my reads to help sort this out, I would really appreciate it.
Otherwise, BUGGER OFF. Regarding your case on Palmar (had to check meta this morning): He had a lazyish Day 1 before as town as shown in Mafia For Busy People and Mafia Mafia Mafia (his filters if you want them: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/534114-mafia-for-busy-people?user=Palmar https://tl.net/forum/mafia/528650-mafia-mafia-mafia-mafia?user=Palmar ) Now regarding no direction: He had 4 scum reads with a stronger one on Shockeyy by that point when you posted your case. As for your play: Even if one of your scumreads voted one of your other scumreads why not vote for the one who you think is scummier? That is why I think you're mafia. With that being said Palmar does move up for me as closer to town now with that meta research I done this morning. @LightningStrike, if we're going to argue meta and all that... In Mafia for Busy People, Palmar was lynched Day 1, on a weekend. It's well known Palmar doesn't play on weekends. While Palmar didn't do anything in the linked game, he didn't start this game on a weekend, so there is no excuse. In Mafia Mafia Mafia, again this is quite a different case, as Palmar was apparently in Portugal and didn't realize the game started until there were about 8 hours left in Day 1. Obviously not relevant to this situation. But I'll humor you. Read Palmar's filter from that game, and he gets right to the point in trying to figure out who he wants to vote for. He acknowledges the current cases and chooses his vote. Of course he has no thread presence (since he didn't read any of the game) so he had to play with that, but I still see more investment from Palmar in that game than in the current game.
I'll check this out but I'm not lynching Palmar today
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Trfel, question: why would Mafia Palmar push Shockey but vote on Sentinel? What's his scum motivation?
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On March 30 2020 18:29 Palmar wrote: Feels like sentinel has done less than shockeyy and is less invested.
Still think shockeyy is mafia for his reactions and posts on day 1, just think Sentinel is even more likely to flip scum.
Trfel is officially dead to me now btw, so I'm going to pretend he doesn't exist.
You do realize that if that is the team, they really don't care for the game, since they both aren't voting.
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On March 30 2020 22:51 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2020 22:27 GlowingBear wrote:On March 30 2020 18:29 Palmar wrote: Feels like sentinel has done less than shockeyy and is less invested.
Still think shockeyy is mafia for his reactions and posts on day 1, just think Sentinel is even more likely to flip scum.
Trfel is officially dead to me now btw, so I'm going to pretend he doesn't exist. You do realize that if that is the team, they really don't care for the game, since they both aren't voting. This is actually the "BUT WHY WOULD MAFIA PLAY LIKE MAFIA?" logic that I was complaining about earlier. Can we start off assuming mafia is just as bad as town, and that they're just playing like mafia plays. If that doesn't work and we end up in lylo, maybe re-evaluate. For now, just fucking murder the people who play like mafia.
Am I doing something else? Because as far as I know, my vote has been on Sentinel since start of the day. There's no harm in thinking further.
And if you think both of them are Mafia, they are deciding the lynch today. Just so you know. And the probability they will kill you is big. Sentinel don't need to vote, shockey will hammer.
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Well, I guess this is it. We kill Sentinel and think about the game after the flips.
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Oh I didn't realize LS wasn't voting before.
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On March 30 2020 23:55 LightningStrike wrote: I got 1 hour left until lecture just fyi guys.
I have nothing more to say today, I'll think about the game post-lynch
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On March 31 2020 00:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Hello
Catching up
Don't bother, you're dead
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On March 31 2020 00:36 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2020 00:32 GlowingBear wrote:On March 31 2020 00:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Hello
Catching up Don't bother, you're dead  Kinda rude there lol...
Why do I always come out as rude lol I'm just friendly teasing him
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On March 31 2020 01:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Rationale for GB:
- Votes Trfel - Switches to HF when Trfel is actually going to be lynched - Switches to KSC when HF has no chance of being lynched in Trfel's spot - Oops KSC is town
Could've been a mistake but: - Back to attacking HF while nothing else is going on - Oops HF is modkilled - I guess I'll uh lynch a lurker or something
Nice try
You forgot to get into account that I believed Trfel came back as genuinely town, and his play isn't atrocious day2. You also forgot that I've only switched to Trfel because I didn't want to waste my vote.
I had no reason to believe HF was town. It was only when he was mod confirmed that I backed off.
I'm lynching you because you're not playing the game and you're not interesting in it. You just come near deadline to drop suspicions at people. You're also only voting on a wagon that is guaranteed to have at least 2 votes. Basically trying to survive
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On March 31 2020 02:35 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2020 02:30 LightningStrike wrote: Rels there was 2 votes on GB before he voted him I think that would answer that question even though I not Sentinel? sure but votes are not everything. No way GB is lynched over Trfel right now
When he voted, a single switch could kill me. It was shockey that made it impossible
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On March 31 2020 02:48 Trfel wrote: So little activity going into the deadline, makes me so uneasy...
Activity is fine considering the active players?
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Game is solved 
I'm so sorry for Holyflare.
I'll re-read the thread later.
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On March 31 2020 03:46 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2020 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:Game is solved  I'm so sorry for Holyflare. I'll re-read the thread later. How is the game is solved?
Can't say
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On March 31 2020 05:07 Palmar wrote: Mafia played like mafia?
I’m shocked!
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On March 31 2020 05:45 ShoCkeyy wrote: Oh god, another day to wait for night actions.... with rolecop out, the game seems so close to ending, but yet so far if we mislynch tomorrow.

What would you say if I said you're the last Mafia?
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