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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 02:34 GMT
#1401
On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.


Then mafia has a cop for sure.

Like

If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you?

Or his mate.

AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K


Maybe he's the rber? Maybe they block who they try and kill in case of a vet? All valid reasoning.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 02:36 GMT
#1402
Who is to say that gb isn't the rber who sent the kill on me but got rbd?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 03 2019 02:36 GMT
#1403
On October 03 2019 11:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.


Then mafia has a cop for sure.

Like

If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you?

Or his mate.

AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K


Maybe he's the rber? Maybe they block who they try and kill in case of a vet? All valid reasoning.


rip you are right.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 02:48 GMT
#1404
Maybe I should read these people's filters :D
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 02:56 GMT
#1405
On October 03 2019 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok, think about it this way, I'm not mafia. Now what are your reads?

Also why does town want to give up a kill on a possible mafia? If there's two people that are mafia, we have a 29% chance of killing one of them now. If there's three mafia, we have 43% chance.

If you Lynch me that's going to give a ton of odds over to mafia. I personally think there's a possibility of godfather, and role blocker. It's a NEWBIE game, why not teach both roles while at it.

Also I'm going to follow up in like 30mins with a big post. Just need to write it out. Then I won't be back for a till late.


I don’t mean to offend you, but nothing you say is relevant to the game and your reads are mostly based on WIFOM.

So, we have Holyflare saying he didn’t track tubesock into me. Who are you going to vote?


No offense taken, but that may also be the mafia talking. Cause I know damn well I'm not mafia. And I think I play an ok mafia role, so I think I can find them easily.


If you are town then GB should be almost confirmed mafia to you.


He's been confirmed, that's why I keep jumping around different partners for him, and why I had my vote on tubesock, but as of late, I don't think Tube is mafia. I gave my reasoning on that already.

On September 26 2019 07:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
The Great GB’S List of Early Reads (NOTE: VERY ACCURATE!!!1!)

boxerfred

FF
VIVAX
Eywax-


Got’em already!


When he gives himself up early game.

On September 27 2019 13:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
Ok, I've re-read the game and I think Eywa- is right about Branch.

##Unvote
##Vote: Branch.AUT


He's easily swayed just as HF mentions.

Then a lot of interaction between CopCake and GB calling each other town. Such as below.

On September 28 2019 03:47 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 03:45 CopCake wrote:
GB where are your reads now?

Let’s do cute work as detectives.



Currently you're my top town.

I still have to think about the others, but I don't have anything really strong.
I think Branch might be mafia. I agree with you about Shockey. Unsure about Tubesock.

The rest, I don't really have a clue.


On September 30 2019 12:32 FreezingFoot wrote:
No I'm not.

So here's where I'm at:

CopCake
Holyflare


Tubesock
Shockey


Vivax
Branch


If GB was really mafia, he wouldn't frame his partner Vivax this early in the game. And with branch claiming Jk, that only left Tube, Cop, and HF. Based on Tubes reads on GB screamed town to me, and I swear, if you go through both GB and CopCake's filter, it's all "lynch shockeyy". I personally think he voted boxerfred because he was gone, he was barely talking which is understandable<3 boxer, town power, and decided to save me as a later "easy town lynch" since I always scream I'm mafia. GB barely has a case on me since he only screams "LYNCH SHOCKEYY", "Shockey scum", etc.. through out his filter. I was mentioned by him over 90 times :D

His only case on me was literally a bunch of ham. I got more give me a few. Just wanted to post what I had for now.

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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:04 GMT
#1406
What reads has tube given on gb that scream town?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:08 GMT
#1407
On October 02 2019 12:32 FreezingFoot wrote:
[image loading]


He wouldn't as mafia? He can't give up partners that easy...

On October 03 2019 02:58 FreezingFoot wrote:
Vivax, unless something extraordinary happens, this is how the game will follow:

1) We lynch Tubesock and he flips red. Then we lynch you.

2) We lynch Tubesock and he flips green. We lynch holyflare.

There's no other option


Here he tries to claim all three of you are possible mafia, just trying to lynch who ever. I don't like claiming people as mafia until I know for certain they are. Look through his filter and he never once brings up the possibility of CopCake being mafia. I mean, I bring up everyone as a possibility. It actually helps at least for me.

When looking at Vivax, one of his posts were my favorite, I don't think a mafia would post this, especially if he isn't really keeping up.

On October 03 2019 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how it came to this Shockey wagon when nearly the entire day has been mostly role talk.

Another thing I don't understand is how Branch is so sure that his targets got saved instead of being mafia carrying kills. That puts us at a GB/HF impasse. This is what I meant when I said I expect at least 1 high profile mafia player. They could have been saved or as well both be mafia who got jailed when they were carrying a kill, or just one of each.

With the rampant shitposting going on today between them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia being so euphoric that their play worked. Plus, the more HF looks like town, the more likely he is to be scum.


A team mate mafia member wouldn't post something like this either nah mean?

On October 03 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 02:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how it came to this Shockey wagon when nearly the entire day has been mostly role talk.

Another thing I don't understand is how Branch is so sure that his targets got saved instead of being mafia carrying kills. That puts us at a GB/HF impasse. This is what I meant when I said I expect at least 1 high profile mafia player. They could have been saved or as well both be mafia who got jailed when they were carrying a kill, or just one of each.

With the rampant shitposting going on today between them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia being so euphoric that their play worked. Plus, the more HF looks like town, the more likely he is to be scum.


Do you believe:

1) I am mafia and I was carrying the KP n1?

2) HF is mafia and was carrying KP n2?

I am town, so mafia knows I was protected. They knew we had either a JK ou a medic. Considering it could be a JK, I don't believe mafia would let Holyflare carry the kill since it's reasonable to consider he could be targeted by the JK.


I have a rather big qualm with the bolded.

If you are town, what makes you so sure you got hit when it might as well have been a town roleblocker blocking mafia or a vet taking the hit? It seems to me you are too eager to argue purely in your favour here.


Vivax easily bussing his partner? nah I doubt it

On October 03 2019 05:05 Vivax wrote:
I wouldn't mind a GB lynch, especially the silence after his latest blooper kind of confirmed my suspicions. It's too bad cause I like having GB around :|

Plus he is a saint for that surprise comeback <3
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:10 GMT
#1408
On October 03 2019 12:04 Holyflare wrote:
What reads has tube given on gb that scream town?



On October 03 2019 07:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 02:25 CopCake wrote:
On October 02 2019 02:17 Tubesock wrote:
My hesitation on Shockeyy is why didn’t he vote Boxerfred to save himself? He was dying until GB swapped, but could have just voted Boxer and not been in much danger.

I don’t think mafia would do that. Otherwise I disagree with everything he’s posted after D1.


But that would only mean that GB is mafia and tried to save Shockey.

Thing he has done in the past btw.


Tube makes a great point here

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 04:26 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 04:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So Tube and GB are team together? like I called earlier? Bahahahah.... I'm starting to think the team is Tube/GB/Cop easy.


YES SHOCKEY
WE ARE MAFIA TOGETHER
TUBESOCK VISITED ME N1 SO WE COULD HAVE A CUP OF TEA AND SHRIMP FLAVORED NOODLES AND LAUGH IN OUR COMFORTABLE MAFIA HOMES


If I want to believe tubes VT claim, then I'd replace Tubesock being his team mate here, and replace with the possible godfather role GB could be.

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:54 Tubesock wrote:
I’m back.

I think GB is lock town, HF is tracker but I have no idea why he wouldn’t outright claim it, and Branch is jk.

So that leaves Cop, Vivax and Shockeyy. I’m pretty confident Cop is town. If HF is mafia, that was a kick ass play.


Tube states that HF is possible mafia, and this is where it gets interesting since HF just mentioned he didn't actually track Tube, he was only setting up Tube to get lynched.

I totally can see an HF/GB mafia team.
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FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
October 03 2019 03:11 GMT
#1409
On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.


Then mafia has a cop for sure.

Like

If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you?

Or his mate.

AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K

ARE TOU TRACKER?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 03 2019 03:12 GMT
#1410
Let me tell you something

GB is able to sell his partner to the devil and make him suffer the biggest of hells as long as he lives and win the game.

I know that because he threw me directly to the town to get lynched so he gets town cred.

To two partners.


Same game.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 03 2019 03:13 GMT
#1411
On October 03 2019 12:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.


Then mafia has a cop for sure.

Like

If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you?

Or his mate.

AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K

ARE TOU TRACKER?



No lmao

Hard claiming useless VT
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:13 GMT
#1412
On October 03 2019 12:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.


Then mafia has a cop for sure.

Like

If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you?

Or his mate.

AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K

ARE TOU TRACKER?


I am never backing down from my claim. Cop visited nobody n1.
FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
October 03 2019 03:15 GMT
#1413
Well, I’m lynching Vivax regardless

I change votes every time as either alignment, so, yeah
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:16 GMT
#1414
Were you around at deadline when boxer died, Shockey?
FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
October 03 2019 03:18 GMT
#1415
On October 03 2019 12:13 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.


Then mafia has a cop for sure.

Like

If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you?

Or his mate.

AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K

ARE TOU TRACKER?




No lmao

Hard claiming useless VT


I was joking because you posted those letters
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:20 GMT
#1416
On October 03 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
Were you around at deadline when boxer died, Shockey?


No I wasn't looking at the timestamps, I had a post a few hours before however. And with my mind changing on Tube, it definitely leads me only to GB.

On October 01 2019 00:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But in all honesty, lets say boxer doesn't flip, who does that lead us too? I mean it doesn't change my read on Tubesock, I personally think he's the scummiest out of everyone since he's been the only active one.

As I said yesterday:

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

FreezingFoot (2): Holyflare, Tubesock
Boxerfred(1): Tubesock, Vivax
ShoCkeyy(1): CopCake
Tubesock (0): Vivax
Branch.AUT (0): Holyflare
CopCake (0): Vivax

Not Voting (4): Branch.AUT, Boxerfred, Shockeyy, FreezingFoot

FreezingFoot is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Monday, Sep 30 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



If you exclude Branch and I from the not voting list, it leaves you Boxer + Freezing, Tube jumps on the Freezing train because he knows that may never go off with how others are targeting people such as myself. Copcake is just chasing after me because they hate me no matter what and would just rather see me lynched. Not a good townie, but understandable.

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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 03 2019 03:22 GMT
#1417
On October 03 2019 12:18 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:13 CopCake wrote:
On October 03 2019 12:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.


Then mafia has a cop for sure.

Like

If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you?

Or his mate.

AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K

ARE TOU TRACKER?




No lmao

Hard claiming useless VT


I was joking because you posted those letters


AWWWWWWWW

who would have said that in our second meeting I would enjoy to play with you? <3
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:22 GMT
#1418
On October 01 2019 03:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:00 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:55 Branch.AUT wrote:
Its either 2/9 or 3/9 depending on how the game is set up. Neither I would consider as "pretty high". Id rather lynch with copcakes conviction than coinflip here.


Your math is wrong and that's not how mafia works either.

It's not going to be 6v3 because the game ends after basically 2 cycles and that's bad.

We have 8 players left and 2 of them are mafia that's a chance that you RANDOMLY hit mafia but this game isn't random, you can make pretty damn educated guesses about people's alignments.

Exluding cop/yourself and me which I am quite confident are town then that's 5 players left and 2 of them are mafia, 2/5 sounds a hell of a lot better than 2/9.

Then you weigh up their play. Boxer has promised activity, skirted activity requirements and has not returned to say anything. His chances of mafia go up quite a lot comparatively. Then when you factor in we get ANOTHER CYCLE if shockeyy is town and boxer is modkilled by killing boxer it's absolutely a no brainer.


FINE
IT'S BOXERFRED


I don't know what I think of this timing but I don't think if you were mafia you willingly extend the game another cycle unless you're specifically mafia and shockey is mafia and you were bussing shockey.


OH MY GOD HOLYFLARE WHY WOULD I DO THAT IF SHOCKEY WAS MAFIA? I WOULD NEVER VOTE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


This post here based on CopCake's recent post about getting voted for town cred seems like he's lying then? :D
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:25 GMT
#1419
On October 03 2019 12:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
Were you around at deadline when boxer died, Shockey?


No I wasn't looking at the timestamps, I had a post a few hours before however. And with my mind changing on Tube, it definitely leads me only to GB.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 00:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But in all honesty, lets say boxer doesn't flip, who does that lead us too? I mean it doesn't change my read on Tubesock, I personally think he's the scummiest out of everyone since he's been the only active one.

As I said yesterday:

On September 30 2019 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

FreezingFoot (2): Holyflare, Tubesock
Boxerfred(1): Tubesock, Vivax
ShoCkeyy(1): CopCake
Tubesock (0): Vivax
Branch.AUT (0): Holyflare
CopCake (0): Vivax

Not Voting (4): Branch.AUT, Boxerfred, Shockeyy, FreezingFoot

FreezingFoot is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Monday, Sep 30 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



If you exclude Branch and I from the not voting list, it leaves you Boxer + Freezing, Tube jumps on the Freezing train because he knows that may never go off with how others are targeting people such as myself. Copcake is just chasing after me because they hate me no matter what and would just rather see me lynched. Not a good townie, but understandable.



Right

On October 01 2019 00:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I don't care if you don't move off of me, but you're not doing the town any favors by trying to vote for me, or trying to create a train on me, that's why it's so hard to move you into a solid 100% town.

On October 01 2019 05:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Even if you switched it to me, that’s killing off another townie. The last few pages have been a wild ride.


There's a massive gap between you saying the first and second post here with the deadline occurring in between. As it stood you weren't even up for lynch, bf was.

So, why is it a good tubesock point to say you're town because you didn't save yourself if you were quite simply not here to?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:32 GMT
#1420
Even if I was here, I wouldn't have moved off. I'm not mafia nor am I GB. I would of actually preferred to get lynch cause I've been on a business trip since Sunday, but that didn't happen and I'm here doing my best to participate and help town out. Also as I mentioned in a earlier post, GB flip to boxer was because if I was voted off, it would of not been easy to lynch boxer later, I'm an easier lynch or they think. It would of changed the games dynamic from thinking I'm mafia to pointing towards others, mafia love that I get the attention, so why vote me off so early?
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