On July 02 2019 03:35 Pandain wrote:
I have no thoughts on Eversince but I am giving Trfel an extremely strong townread. I think it's unlikely for mafia to give a strong townread so early in the game (literally the first page)

So why are you towreading Trfel again?

I don't have a read on Eversince, i don't think she has said much anything gameplay related (at least up until p4 end). Something feels wrong in Trfel's read. Why couldn't you make the same read last game? I am not saying Eversince has played differently than she did last game this early on but i don't understand how Trfel can make the read now but not last game?

Grack might be town.

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 00:49 GMT

#95

wait wtf did i quote, that's not what i meant to quote:

On July 02 2019 03:42 Pandain wrote:
I'm not disagreeing with you that ES is relaxed, and if she keeps this up for a whole day that's a different story. I would just never make a townread this early based on that.

this is the post from pandain i meant to quote.

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 00:55 GMT

#96

Hi conversion, seems like we share a lot of things and feelings. Are you me?

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 01:02 GMT

#98

That's something i can possibly understand. My problem is pretty much the wording because as someone already said the mafia game is old and i don't think there is any reason why ES as mafia couldn't start like last game today. Like i mean the wording since for you also -- as you said, last game you wanted to see if she could play like that as mafia. Why is it not the case now?

Idk if my explanation is clear enoguh.

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 01:41 GMT

#100

I will quote the relevant parts.

On July 02 2019 10:37 Trfel wrote:
Last game I noticed a difference in Eversince's play to her last mafia game, but I wasn't sure if the difference was caused by a change in alignment or the passage of time, so I didn't think much of it. Then it became clear she was town, leading me to believe that the change in alignment is the primary reason for the posting style difference mentioned previously.

That's what i am getting at. I am not sure if i believe you can, or rather would make the red assumption given the green part, especially since you didn't make it at the start of last game.

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 01:44 GMT

#101

Idk i am letting this go atm. You have given your pov and it's up to me to decide if i think you're telling the truth or not. I am interested in why Pandain apparently thinks the same as i do about ES' play so far yet he somehow reads you town for just making a read (not even agreeing with it) he wouldn't even ever make in the first place (i assume that meant as town unless he wants to call himself mafia straight up).

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 01:59 GMT

#103

On July 02 2019 10:58 Eversince wrote:
I'll catch up on the thread while I take a bath

true dedication

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 02:36 GMT

#105

I am just about to leave to work but why is Trfel town?

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 02:43 GMT

#108

The issue is that if you're town and he knows your alignment and decided to make that read why wouldn't he have those conclusions? They are pretty much "facts" based on earlier games but imo they dont actually mean anything and as i said i am not completely certain if Trfel would think so either.

Just because someone has conclusions and explains how they came to those conclusions doesn't mean they are town.

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 02:48 GMT

#111

idk, maybe you can think so. I dont think you had / have done much that would require "hard time playing as mafia" given the gamestate, in other words it would be easy to post as you have so far if you were mafia.

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 06:35 GMT

#136

On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 07:04 GMT

#143

On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:

Show nested quote +

Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty!

If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 07:54 GMT

#169

I see. I am going to try getting into convo with him but thats not going to happen until i am home from work.

I will also reassess grack and idk if eversince answered me but i want to see an answer when i am home. I am just loosely reading along whenever i can at work.

raynpelikoneet

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July 02 2019 08:22 GMT

#177

On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?