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On July 10 2019 04:47 Eversince wrote: Yeh, I kind of went over in obs but getting both blues D1 was a HUGE hit to town here. Conv checks depending might have made a big difference. his checks (re obs) would of outright confirmed Rayn as mafia (if he can convince) or confirm Rayn mafia when HF flips town.. i told you town's will do stupid things when i told you i cannot back off you or HF will figure me out. I played it on the fly after. I didn't want HF killed but i also wanted to shoot him N1, i was hoping someone would save him lol. It would give me more reasons to be alive when he and the other blue are dead, thankfully pandain kinda took care of that.
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Omfg well played rayn and es. Gg all
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On July 10 2019 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2019 04:47 Eversince wrote: Yeh, I kind of went over in obs but getting both blues D1 was a HUGE hit to town here. Conv checks depending might have made a big difference. his checks (re obs) would of outright confirmed Rayn as mafia (if he can convince) or confirm Rayn mafia when HF flips town.. i told you town's will do stupid things when i told you i cannot back off you or HF will figure me out. I played it on the fly after. I didn't want HF killed but i also wanted to shoot him N1, i was hoping someone would save him lol.  It would give me more reasons to be alive when he and the other blue are dead, thankfully pandain kinda took care of that. Yeh, it made sense but reasons HF needed to die anyway. I kind of tried to use this logic for Grack too. I just used bad reasons for HF off some other game.. Thought I was 100% dead when I can't find said game, skim some of his scum games, see I'm totally wrong ! Thanks bad English (when I'm not really thinking hard about it) and ditsy ES can make stupid mistakes like that as both alignments! So convinced people to waffle me enough that it saved me!
Also yeh, super lucky Pand shot into Grack not me there!
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See even she thinks my case you all called a stretch was legit.
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I will go back to what I said day 1, I think the game was easy to solve if we lynched EverSince day 1, when I said this, I actually thought Rayn and ES were scum team (it's in my filter) due to how Rayn and HF didn't disagree at all on this one thing that came up.
I think saving players as town is really really counter productive...
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Very well played though, I think Eversince had a really strong power wolf game. Rayn just the right amount of not being around. And town just self-destructed.
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I think you'd definitely had a better chance of solving the game if you lynched ES D1 (obviously). Maybe you had won, maybe i would have done some different things and we would see who gets lynched when it was sure bussing had occurred. idk. You were "right" there, i say "right" because it was some specific point and i have even no idea where that came from. But maybe yeah.
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On July 10 2019 05:00 Eywa- wrote: Rayn just the right amount of not being around. idk what this means because i was literally around and posting every single moment i had when i was off working/sleeping/(during weekend drinking)?
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On July 10 2019 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think you'd definitely had a better chance of solving the game if you lynched ES D1 (obviously). Maybe you had won, maybe i would have done some different things and we would see who gets lynched when it was sure bussing had occurred. idk. You were "right" there, i say "right" because it was some specific point and i have even no idea where that came from. But maybe yeah. I think if ES gets lynched day 1, you actually have to play. As it was, it kind of dictated how D2+ would go.
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On July 10 2019 05:04 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2019 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think you'd definitely had a better chance of solving the game if you lynched ES D1 (obviously). Maybe you had won, maybe i would have done some different things and we would see who gets lynched when it was sure bussing had occurred. idk. You were "right" there, i say "right" because it was some specific point and i have even no idea where that came from. But maybe yeah. I think if ES gets lynched day 1, you actually have to play. As it was, it kind of dictated how D2+ would go. that is true. i agree. i can however "play" as mafia too, this game i didn't have to because i would have 100% done the same as town and jsut pushed the lynch on ES on D2 do or die.
but yeah, you are right.
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btw i think if i was in your position eywa, on D3, i would go jock over trfel 100%. always.
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On July 10 2019 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2019 04:37 Conversion wrote:well played Rayn and Eversince fuck you Trfel for hammering me for no reason and not even addressing me at any point in the game, fuck you Jock for telling people I'm playing pissy when I wasn't, fuck you Grack for not even talking to me and calling me scum with 1 hr left to lynch, and finally a big ole fuck you to mafia MVP Pandain for lynching me for being null and then shooting Grack who you were colluding with until EoD1 to shenanigan onto me  yeah you played really really well. i didnt even have to lie or twist the facts when you got lynched for no reason at all. i was literally never prepared in you getting lynched so i didnt think i needed to do anything (if i did i would have yelled to lynch ES since i thought HF will figure me out in 1 sec if i change my mind), on that front trfel's case D2 was not so good. I think i would have had that read on Grack if i was town, i cant say for sure but i think i would have done it early on. HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted 07-09-2019 02:18 PM ET (US) I told you all no lynch was optimal. Always no lynch after rayn's day 2. Why? I heavily disagree with no-lynching here, mafiajsut kills Pandain and then what?
Well because your day 2 was essentially opening up the entire game by calling the 2 townier people in the game mafia opportunistically and Eversince was known to have to afk after Friday so bussing was optimal. You played very well though either way.
Gives you a whole lot more time to make errors too and search for more mafia but I guess the two people up for lynch didn't really give that great of a defence and seemed to just give up (even though they did try I guess).
Obviously it's super different being in obs compared to in the game.
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I think Jock was super obviously town tbh.
I see where you're coming from on that point though.
I really enjoyed this game, even though it's kind of broken if you fuck up D1/N1... I mean, if you fuck up D1/N1 with a vig, you should always lose though.
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Like, I probably would have voted you over Jock due to my day 1 reasons.
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On July 10 2019 05:11 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2019 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 10 2019 04:37 Conversion wrote:well played Rayn and Eversince fuck you Trfel for hammering me for no reason and not even addressing me at any point in the game, fuck you Jock for telling people I'm playing pissy when I wasn't, fuck you Grack for not even talking to me and calling me scum with 1 hr left to lynch, and finally a big ole fuck you to mafia MVP Pandain for lynching me for being null and then shooting Grack who you were colluding with until EoD1 to shenanigan onto me  yeah you played really really well. i didnt even have to lie or twist the facts when you got lynched for no reason at all. i was literally never prepared in you getting lynched so i didnt think i needed to do anything (if i did i would have yelled to lynch ES since i thought HF will figure me out in 1 sec if i change my mind), on that front trfel's case D2 was not so good. I think i would have had that read on Grack if i was town, i cant say for sure but i think i would have done it early on. HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted 07-09-2019 02:18 PM ET (US) I told you all no lynch was optimal. Always no lynch after rayn's day 2. Why? I heavily disagree with no-lynching here, mafiajsut kills Pandain and then what? Well because your day 2 was essentially opening up the entire game by calling the 2 townier people in the game mafia opportunistically and Eversince was known to have to afk after Friday so bussing was optimal. You played very well though either way. Gives you a whole lot more time to make errors too and search for more mafia but I guess the two people up for lynch didn't really give that great of a defence and seemed to just give up (even though they did try I guess). Obviously it's super different being in obs compared to in the game. I honestly never accounted ES' "possibly afking" into anything. I would never do that. I told her if she needs to go and cant play ask for a replacement. Idk who townier people i called mafia? I only called jock mafia i think and that was after when he made that case on me which i honestly thought was soooo bad (granted idk if it was "soooo bad" since i misread one of his posts).
Idk about the last paragraph? Are you talking about D3 here earlier too or?
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On July 10 2019 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2019 05:11 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2019 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 10 2019 04:37 Conversion wrote:well played Rayn and Eversince fuck you Trfel for hammering me for no reason and not even addressing me at any point in the game, fuck you Jock for telling people I'm playing pissy when I wasn't, fuck you Grack for not even talking to me and calling me scum with 1 hr left to lynch, and finally a big ole fuck you to mafia MVP Pandain for lynching me for being null and then shooting Grack who you were colluding with until EoD1 to shenanigan onto me  yeah you played really really well. i didnt even have to lie or twist the facts when you got lynched for no reason at all. i was literally never prepared in you getting lynched so i didnt think i needed to do anything (if i did i would have yelled to lynch ES since i thought HF will figure me out in 1 sec if i change my mind), on that front trfel's case D2 was not so good. I think i would have had that read on Grack if i was town, i cant say for sure but i think i would have done it early on. HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted 07-09-2019 02:18 PM ET (US) I told you all no lynch was optimal. Always no lynch after rayn's day 2. Why? I heavily disagree with no-lynching here, mafiajsut kills Pandain and then what? Well because your day 2 was essentially opening up the entire game by calling the 2 townier people in the game mafia opportunistically and Eversince was known to have to afk after Friday so bussing was optimal. You played very well though either way. Gives you a whole lot more time to make errors too and search for more mafia but I guess the two people up for lynch didn't really give that great of a defence and seemed to just give up (even though they did try I guess). Obviously it's super different being in obs compared to in the game. I honestly never accounted ES' "possibly afking" into anything. I would never do that. I told her if she needs to go and cant play ask for a replacement. Idk who townier people i called mafia? I only called jock mafia i think and that was after when he made that case on me which i honestly thought was soooo bad (granted idk if it was "soooo bad" since i misread one of his posts). Idk about the last paragraph? Are you talking about D3 here earlier too or? I think you're being critical of your play though, you never come out looking worse than Trfel tbh.
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On July 10 2019 05:12 Eywa- wrote: I think Jock was super obviously town tbh. yeah i agree, but when someone fools you once you dont believe it, like trfel didnt.
I see where you're coming from on that point though. i know i am contradicting what i said above but i would always lynch somone for what he did at the eod 1, even if they are town they just made +1 mafia thing.
I really enjoyed this game, even though it's kind of broken if you fuck up D1/N1... I mean, if you fuck up D1/N1 with a vig, you should always lose though. it's not broken it is just hard.
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On July 10 2019 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2019 05:11 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2019 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 10 2019 04:37 Conversion wrote:well played Rayn and Eversince fuck you Trfel for hammering me for no reason and not even addressing me at any point in the game, fuck you Jock for telling people I'm playing pissy when I wasn't, fuck you Grack for not even talking to me and calling me scum with 1 hr left to lynch, and finally a big ole fuck you to mafia MVP Pandain for lynching me for being null and then shooting Grack who you were colluding with until EoD1 to shenanigan onto me  yeah you played really really well. i didnt even have to lie or twist the facts when you got lynched for no reason at all. i was literally never prepared in you getting lynched so i didnt think i needed to do anything (if i did i would have yelled to lynch ES since i thought HF will figure me out in 1 sec if i change my mind), on that front trfel's case D2 was not so good. I think i would have had that read on Grack if i was town, i cant say for sure but i think i would have done it early on. HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted 07-09-2019 02:18 PM ET (US) I told you all no lynch was optimal. Always no lynch after rayn's day 2. Why? I heavily disagree with no-lynching here, mafiajsut kills Pandain and then what? Well because your day 2 was essentially opening up the entire game by calling the 2 townier people in the game mafia opportunistically and Eversince was known to have to afk after Friday so bussing was optimal. You played very well though either way. Gives you a whole lot more time to make errors too and search for more mafia but I guess the two people up for lynch didn't really give that great of a defence and seemed to just give up (even though they did try I guess). Obviously it's super different being in obs compared to in the game. I honestly never accounted ES' "possibly afking" into anything. I would never do that. I told her if she needs to go and cant play ask for a replacement. Idk who townier people i called mafia? I only called jock mafia i think and that was after when he made that case on me which i honestly thought was soooo bad (granted idk if it was "soooo bad" since i misread one of his posts). Idk about the last paragraph? Are you talking about D3 here earlier too or?
I dunno what to tell you, at one point you started going on Jock or someone just after I called jock and trfel really townie in obs and it looked really opportunistic and I called you 100% mafia and never backed down. So I must have seen something that you wouldn't ever do as town there.
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Also, I don't think it's always TERRIBLE to hard defend someone... But you have to understand that when you do, you're betting the game on it... Because when it comes down to it, you're either successful and lose to them if they're scum... Or you're unsuccessful in which case you get lynched along with them in most cases.
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