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On July 03 2019 18:00 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 17:58 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 17:52 Pandain wrote: @ES Convince me that Eywa is mafia.
Make a post with support and quoted posts. Honestly, I can't. I'm at work on a laptop. I can try though! Depends if I have free time! If not I can 100% do it when I get home! ES: Eywa is mafia! Let's lynch him Pandain: Why? ES: Can't talk now! hahahaha What do you think about Jock and I's points on Grack? You only commented on your previously held beliefs regarding him. Did Jock and I make any good points? I'm comfortable with Eywa/Conv because of reasons I've already said. If you want me to apologies for having to work, you not getting one. Jock seems lie misguided town more than anything.
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And no I didn't! He responded to me and I said it was terrible!
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Ok, let me reread from there..
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On July 03 2019 18:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote: I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before.
@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this. I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto.
Meek? I've hard defended Grack on a meta read all game!
@Pand ok but don't see the issue. My own read :Grack gets his thing together or lynch.I talk to Grack and he is still basic 'I'm be useless'. Everyone else pages later: Grack gets his things togthero or we lynch him.
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On July 03 2019 18:13 Pandain wrote: Actually what does that even mean "she could know he's town."
Why would that matter for mafia ES? What is this reasoning?
Where did I ever say this?
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Looks like I'm die..
I'm try to catch up but I have to go take care of animals. No promises.
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ok! I'm back around!! I'm catching up but anyone that has questions can talk!
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On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote: And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be.
Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap.
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m!ES makes a trash meta read on me. Get caught. Lynch with bunches of fire!!
What other point did you have?
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On July 04 2019 03:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote: And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. But you agreed with them and said my vote is valid because of it originally lol?
I agreed with why you made them! I tried real hard to explain myself after that fact. You obviously don't like it but it still kind of proved my point because here you are. trying to engage game (Did the same there), and solve things. The fact you completely ignore my response due to mia/w/e makes me feel worse on you because I've been transparent on how I develop. So you continuing to push me is questionable at this point.
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On July 04 2019 03:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 02:55 Eversince wrote: I don't even think his scum read on me is wrong. I made a mistake and HF finding a problem with it makes sense because I made no sense.
Yes but why does m!ES take that and give it to you?
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Like darnit..
ES makes a bad meta read. HF has problems with it. ES can't show reasons for read, own up to it. Gets killed because she just picks a fight with HF.
What world would I do this?
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On July 04 2019 03:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:34 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 03:28 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote: And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. But you agreed with them and said my vote is valid because of it originally lol? I agreed with why you made them! I tried real hard to explain myself after that fact. You obviously don't like it but it still kind of proved my point because here you are. trying to engage game (Did the same there), and solve things. The fact you completely ignore my response due to mia/w/e makes me feel worse on you because I've been transparent on how I develop. So you continuing to push me is questionable at this point. No, it's not. I did literally the same thing to Pandain last game and he even complained about it. If you agreed with them why did you just come in and say my points were trash?
Mainly because they are trash to call me mafia here. I get why you made them but why you're STILL persisting on them is baffling to me!
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On July 04 2019 03:41 Holyflare wrote: I'm not picking a fight. I just think you're mafia because you haven't really called anyone other than eywa mafia. Prove someone else is mafia and why I should vote for them.
I've given points on Conv and Ewya. I also waffle on Pandain but I think his recent post (along what I said earlier) he looks a lot better. I've given points on almost everyone in this game. HF if your town just freaking read.
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I am generating content! That's bologna! I've spent half my time trying to explain myself. You continuing to try to kill me is weird now. Like 'nothing ES says this game' changes your opinion? You want huge case post? Too bad, I'm really bad at them. You want analysis? Point me where. You want explanation? On what?
Your driving me seems super forced here. I don't like it at all. I was ready to call the whole Jock/HF thing town vs town but your making me doubt myself..
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On July 04 2019 03:52 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:44 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 03:41 Holyflare wrote: I'm not picking a fight. I just think you're mafia because you haven't really called anyone other than eywa mafia. Prove someone else is mafia and why I should vote for them. I've given points on Conv and Ewya. I also waffle on Pandain but I think his recent post (along what I said earlier) he looks a lot better. I've given points on almost everyone in this game. HF if your town just freaking read. Your points on me: 1) Entrance bad 2) I don’t like him You haven’t evolved your read on me or reinforced it as I posted more. Until you start playing the game instead of yelling about how no one wants to listen to you, my vote stays on you.
That's true at all! I said I didn't like you for the same reason I don't like Eywa. I said I'm more willing to let you pass for it because you did it WAYYYYY earlier than Eywa did. Don't misquote me.
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On July 04 2019 03:55 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:52 Conversion wrote:On July 04 2019 03:44 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 03:41 Holyflare wrote: I'm not picking a fight. I just think you're mafia because you haven't really called anyone other than eywa mafia. Prove someone else is mafia and why I should vote for them. I've given points on Conv and Ewya. I also waffle on Pandain but I think his recent post (along what I said earlier) he looks a lot better. I've given points on almost everyone in this game. HF if your town just freaking read. Your points on me: 1) Entrance bad 2) I don’t like him You haven’t evolved your read on me or reinforced it as I posted more. Until you start playing the game instead of yelling about how no one wants to listen to you, my vote stays on you. That's not true at all! I said I didn't like you for the same reason I don't like Eywa. I said I'm more willing to let you pass for it because you did it WAYYYYY earlier than Eywa did. Don't misquote me. edit
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@HF I can't explain this any better.
I DID answer you. Your COMPLETELY IGNORING it. I don't make huge cases anymore. I've JUST gave you two other people I have made issues with. You push me for doing what I just did.
Are you just scum HF?
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On July 04 2019 04:00 Holyflare wrote: ES can you summarise why Eywa is your biggest scum read in this entire game in a few bullet points please? -sigh- Yes. Give me half a second to find my post.
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On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote: So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why?
On July 03 2019 04:56 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 04:47 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote: So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? No, I've always said you're mafia, a role which you obtained via RNG. Ok. That's the most bullshit reason ever! I'm sorry for the strong language but this crap everyone is m!ES reading me is total crap. You put a scum read on me BECAUSE FF RNG me mafia. If that is the entirety of your read that's just junk! There is so much else in the thread and adide from you evading Rayn you've done nothing. Literally trying to be around and engage with people again, get thread moving, explain my thoughts, own to mistakes, What in all of this makes you think I'm scum? Because I found it scummy Conv went after me for these reasons. I'm find it worst becuase you mia and then jump on these same reasons.
On July 03 2019 05:01 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 05:00 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:58 Eversince wrote: I apologies for the bad spelling btw. I'm so tired right now I could fall over.. I didn't through, I'm reading you as mafia because you're mafia by play. What IN my play has seemed scum to you?
On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read)
You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...)
Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day.
Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!!
On July 03 2019 05:44 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 05:41 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read)
You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...)
Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day.
Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is: I start every town game with just spamming up the thread trying to talk to people!1) trying to pocket Pandain Pocket Pandain? I've actively not wanted to scum read him for bad reasons. I already said I don't get his logic. I don't want to waste entire game waffling him again!2) random town read on first player to post See above3) trying to pocket Pandain Assume this is a repeat, see above4) AtE I don't know what AtE means so I can respond here.There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). where?Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. Yes. But it makes no sense for t!ES to mud up the thread because Pandain is doing nothing so.You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. I went through a 'phase' of trying to recall thing on players I've played with for years. I owned up to were I made mistakes.You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. That totally explains why I have a scum read on you right?I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. Ok? I think?
Basically to sum it up. I think it's trash to come in throw a vote on me. Doesn't explain anything. Leave.. Come back and respond with more useless crap because 'ES is mafia so ignore' Rinse repeat.
I give Conv a little more room because at the point he did it wouldn't matter. I still think it's a iffy reason to vote but his vote is leading to nothing there.
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