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Pandain
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Jockmcplop
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On July 07 2019 18:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not even indicated, just straingt up called me mafia before you did. So that's a lie. Please point out where. Why would he make the post i quoted if that was true? He's starting to agree with me that you are mafia? Despite him thinking that before i did? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 05 2019 05:07 Jockmcplop wrote: I didn't say it made you anything. I said you seem like you're in a hurry. On July 05 2019 05:26 Jockmcplop wrote: I don't know. All my mafia reads died and were town. I'm officially back to square one. this is where you stop posting On July 05 2019 14:38 Trfel wrote: I dunno what to think. Raynpelikoneet, Eywa-, jockmcplop, Eversince. Two of the four are mafia. I need to take another look at raynpelikoneet, he's got a strong scum game and I feel like something like that is happening. Frankly it feels like all four of you have strong scum games which means it's probably a lost cause but I will keep trying! On July 05 2019 15:11 Jockmcplop wrote: So I've got: trfel + es vs rayn + pandain at the moment, right? On July 05 2019 15:16 Trfel wrote: I'm not mafia and I refuse to be lynched, better try something else. Judging purely by gamestate here it makes sense to me that raynpelikoneet is mafia, it feels like mafia has a decent amount of thread pull and influence. Honestly it makes me think of raynpelikoneet/Eywa- or raynpelikoneet/jockmcplop. I have no other real reason for why raynpelikoneet is mafia though  Jockmcplop, can I ask you why I should be towreading you? (not a challenge, honest question) On July 05 2019 15:19 Jockmcplop wrote: Actually trfel you are 100% mafia Definitely My logic before didn't quote work BUT Rayn/ES isn't a possible mafia team here,right? Pandain isn't mafia I'm not mafia therefore mafia is trfel/ES or trfel/rayn Tell me why this is wrong On July 05 2019 15:20 Jockmcplop wrote: ##vote trfel On July 05 2019 15:29 Jockmcplop wrote: I've had a nightmare game wrong about everything. Before my brain fart this morning I was thinking Eywa/rayn for possible scum team. Can you now stop lying? | ||
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Jockmcplop
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Fuck this. You guys decide. I'm already making it worse. Vote trfel. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 07 2019 18:46 Jockmcplop wrote: Not lying just got it wrong. Fuck this. You guys decide. I'm already making it worse. Vote trfel. I have a problem believing you here since you literally quoted Trfel's post where he calls me mafia and voted for him while having a null-read on me and then you don't remember he called me mafia before you?? | ||
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Jockmcplop
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Jockmcplop
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On July 07 2019 18:49 Jockmcplop wrote: Cos we ended up lynching trfel after i went back and forth on a bunch of people,never had any solid reads and ended up no smarter about the gamestate than when i started. ebwop lynching conversion | ||
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Jockmcplop
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On July 07 2019 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a problem believing you here since you literally quoted Trfel's post where he calls me mafia and voted for him while having a null-read on me and then you don't remember he called me mafia before you?? Because when I went back and looked i found the post by trfel that quite heavily suggests the opposite is true. If you dont believe fine i'm not gonna convince if you think i'm gonna hang around while you call me a liar for the next 3 days your badly mistaken. I apologized for my shit play, I'm done with that now and I'm pretty much done with your aggression also because I just can't be arsed any more. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 07 2019 18:49 Jockmcplop wrote: Cos we ended up lynching trfel after i went back and forth on a bunch of people,never had any solid reads and ended up no smarter about the gamestate than when i started. but how does that make sense when your mafia read holyflare is alive and your townread ES wasn't lynched? Like you didn't want to lynch your townread and people didn't believe (enough that) your mafia read is mafia. Why do you think you were even doing anything wrong there? Also question in point; if you believed what you said there why didn't you go back and re-eval ES? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 07 2019 18:53 Jockmcplop wrote: Because when I went back and looked i found the post by trfel that quite heavily suggests the opposite is true. If you dont believe fine i'm not gonna convince if you think i'm gonna hang around while you call me a liar for the next 3 days your badly mistaken. I apologized for my shit play, I'm done with that now and I'm pretty much done with your aggression also because I just can't be arsed any more. I am sorry if you feel offended but this is a mafia game and people accuse other people, right or wrong. You said something that is not true and i questioned you for it. I think you should try to explain why Trfel (or me or Eywa) is mafia. "I know i am town" isn't acceptable because i am sure you are smart enough to know people who are town don't know if you are town or not. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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On July 07 2019 18:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: but how does that make sense when your mafia read holyflare is alive and your townread ES wasn't lynched? Like you didn't want to lynch your townread and people didn't believe (enough that) your mafia read is mafia. Why do you think you were even doing anything wrong there? Because I took part in the vote that ended in a mislynch. I didn't feel I had helped town at all during day 1. Also question in point; if you believed what you said there why didn't you go back and re-eval ES? What do you mean by re-eval? I never really evaluated ES in the first place. I didn't see anything specifically mafia looking in her posts and disagreed with your read on her. So instead at this point i looked into other suspicious looking people. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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On July 03 2019 06:56 Trfel wrote: Sorry I'm not going to be very active until later tonight. It's a busy day for me, and I just learned that the company I've really been looking forward to working with is only giving me a temporary contract position instead of full employment, which is very disappointing after I've been unemployed for 15 months now so I'm pretty sad and out of it.Been filter diving from the top. I like raynpelikoneet, his play seems to match his play last game very well. It feels like he's trying to solve the game, and he's still not focusing in and incessantly pushing single things. The thing that makes me townread him is that (assuming Eversince is town, which admittedly there is a chance I am wrong, but that is my current read) on Holyflare's comment he instantly switched his vote back to Eversince and has resolutely kept it there. If raynpelikoneet is mafia he knows that this is wrong, and in accordance with his "new," non-tunneling style of play I think he would be a bit more hesitant/reserved with that. Which makes me think he is town. If I explained that adequately. Unsure about Jockmcplop currently. + Show Spoiler [Analysis] + On July 02 2019 16:30 Jockmcplop wrote: Lynching lurkers isn't always trash. I personally don't see the rush to figure out a vote right now. I guess we all play differently but I'd rather wait until near the deadline to gather as much as possible first. On July 02 2019 16:38 Jockmcplop wrote: Fair enough. What do you think of Pandain? Immediately reversing his only read is a little suspicious and 'I changed my perspective' is a very opaque answer as to what happened. It kinda it makes it impossible to progress a conversation about what exactly pandain is thinking. Not being open about your thought process is mafia motivated at this point, especially when something like his trfel read debacle sticks out so obviously in the thread. His vote on you also seems like he's forcing something, trying to be first to vote for some reason. I can see mafia motivation everywhere with this guy already. ##vote pandain On July 02 2019 16:46 Jockmcplop wrote: Pandain made no posts in between these posts.I know I said I didn't need to vote early, but this really jumped out at me. Pandain come back and be more town for me, I don't like having such a strong scumread so early lol. I know this has already been pointed out, but this scumread of Pandain feels somewhat fabricated. It feels like his suspicions of Pandain kinda came out of nowhere, it feels a bit forced to me. I could easily be wrong though; I'd like to see more from Jockmcplop, I think he's put himself in an interesting position with the null read on Eversince and the current vote count. @Jockmcplop, do you have an explanation for your thought process through the quoted posts? Holyflare, this sentence is for you, just because I know you like seeing your name on things. So far I'm suspicious of Eywa-. Eywa- feels a bit self-conscious, which seems highly opposite their town play last game. + Show Spoiler [Analysis] + On July 03 2019 02:43 Eywa- wrote: Very similar to posts that Eywa- made last game as town.The biggest reason is her role PM. Probably RNG. On July 03 2019 05:01 Eywa- wrote: But this didn't come up last game at all? Feels like Eywa- is self-conscious about not giving reasons in this game, which wasn't at all present last game, despite playing in a very similar way.The role pm part was a joke... Oops, somehow it's being quoted in every post now. On July 03 2019 04:35 Eywa- wrote: I don't think you're the only good lynch, but I think you're the most likely to get lynched of the narrow pool of acceptable lynches. The difference is negligible, so we can say you're the best lynch... or tied for the slot at least. On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote: It feels like Eywa-'s scumread and vote on Eversince is just following the momentum of everyone else, the reasons and actual strength behind the read comes out later. Eywa- even admits that Eversince is just the most likely lynch out of a narrow pool. Side note, what is Eywa-'s lynch pool anyway? They only mentioned four townreads, which leaves four remaining players, I'd say that's quite a wide lynch pool, instead of the narrow pool Eywa- claims...Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is: 1) trying to pocket Pandain 2) random town read on first player to post 3) trying to pocket Pandain 4) AtE There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. But Eywa-'s scumread on Eversince increases in strength from "Eversince is one acceptable lynch out of a group of acceptable lynches" to "I'm lynching Eversince no matter what," and the only reasons cited are all from posts and events that happened before the first post in question. It feels extremely opportunistic to me and somewhat forced. @Eywa-, can you explain your thought process through the quoted posts? I'm interested in how your read on Eversince has changed over those posts, and what caused that change. I haven't gotten to Conversion and Grackaroni yet, and I need to reread Pandain; I will try to do so as soon as I can. Heading out for a bit. On July 03 2019 07:38 Trfel wrote: Actually, sorry, something is still bugging me...I'm sorry I just don't quite get this answer. First, the bolded portion isn't true. The bolded portion happened before the events in the previous paragraph, not after. I would understand if the progression happened as you describe, but that is NOT what actually happened. And the red, about it being a pressure vote... Does this:Look like a pressure vote? You even call it a strong scumread. Maybe we have different definitions of a pressure vote, maybe I am wrong, but regardless it appears to me to be a legitimate scumread of Pandain and that seems to be clearly what you are saying here. On July 03 2019 08:09 Trfel wrote: Thanks for explaining, I understand about the pressure vote. I'm sorry you feel I am nitpicking and being annoying, that isn't my intention. I only questioned two things, I just wanted to make sure your answers were truthful. To me it's significant if someone tries to falsify information to justify their reads and make themselves look better, even if it's over a little thing. If I am wrong please feel free to correct me, but I have quadruple checked it and am pretty sure I am right. I'll let it drop because it's the only thing out of an otherwise decent filter, I'm sorry I'm just trying to understand. On July 03 2019 08:43 Trfel wrote: Hm, fair enough, I'll keep thinking about it.. Need to head out now though. Be back tonight. On July 04 2019 15:05 Trfel wrote: I have come to the shocking conclusion that I have absolutely no idea what is happening this game. I'll attempt to rethink everything. I still think Jockmcplop and raynpelikoneet are town though. If anyone wants to talk about stuff with me feel free, I'll be busy tomorrow given that it's a holiday but before the next lynch hopefully I'll be slightly less clueless This is an odd read progression on me, don't you think? At first he is concerned that I might be mafia for reasons. Then he asks for an explanation, accepts it, and suddenly he 'still thinks i'm town'. I think he was buddying me early on tbh. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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Honestly don't even lean one way or the other until day 3. | ||
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Pandain
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Fecalfeast
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Day 3 Announcements Pandain the Vigilante (1 shot) has been killed It is now day. the voting thread is --HERE-- please remember to vote in that thread or it won't count. Voting is mandatory. until deadline. (Tuesday, Jul 09 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)) | ||
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Pandain
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