Why doesn't Grack think you're mafia for your read too, because your read is like 85% the same than mine?
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Why doesn't Grack think you're mafia for your read too, because your read is like 85% the same than mine? | ||
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On July 04 2019 21:59 Eversince wrote: Converstion came from no where because HF wanted a wagon people would be happy with. I already said what I felt on Conv, and I'm not mafia so I 1)lynched into my scum reads 2)saved t!ES. shut up already HF had NOTHING to do with lynching Conversion. | ||
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On July 04 2019 22:17 Jockmcplop wrote: Rayn what are your thoughts on trfel? I think he did his town thing on the post on HF. ![]() | ||
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On July 04 2019 22:20 Grackaroni wrote: It's not an easy game to solve because a lot of the players (ES, Pandain, Eywa) are reads that I have that are pure tone reads. I think I could definitely be wrong about my Eywa read, and maybe Eversince but that would impress me. But you PoE'd me and Conversion, formerly your top ttown reads as mafia?!?!?!? | ||
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On July 04 2019 22:21 Jockmcplop wrote: Cool, thanks I'll go check it out and see if I can learn something + Show Spoiler + It's the thing where he makes a really good post in a townie way (i mean he can be right or wrong but puts a shitton of thought into it -- corresponding to the game state at the time, like obviously earlier posts are not "huge effort" but i hope you get what i mean) and then calls himself bad and wrong. Now after this game this is never going to hold so it's not anymore a town!Trfel thing. | ||
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On July 04 2019 22:25 Grackaroni wrote: your presence was way lower than people like ES/Pandain throughout the rest of the phase. what the fuck?!?! | ||
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On July 04 2019 22:26 Grackaroni wrote: In your case if my tone read on ES ends up being bad then I may regret it, but if not then I have a very good reason to suspect you. So your scumread on me is based on that ES is town and i should know better? | ||
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On July 04 2019 22:31 Grackaroni wrote: I looked back through the pages and I stand by that. I see you posting about the ES points, which I said I didn't like, you briefly say that Pandain is mafia and then you go back to posting about the same ES points. I think that's less than what you usually do where you tend to cycle through a few different suspicions. Okay let's take an example. Last game D1, what did i do that's "more than this game"? | ||
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On July 04 2019 22:33 Grackaroni wrote: Yes. You had a confident read on her in the last game and gave a town read on her when I had a lot of doubts, in this game I have a stronger town read on her from the feel of her filter and you are nitpicking on thing she are saying that I don't think make sense from either alignment to try to lynch her. Okay so, i already said i understand the HF thing and i said it's reasonable you scumread me for it. Aside from that why arent you scumreading HF (or if you are now, why weren't you clearly expressing that during EoD1) because HF's points on why ES is mafia are pretty much the same than mine other than that one thing? | ||
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On July 04 2019 22:39 Holyflare wrote: Rayn are you scum reading es still? yes | ||
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On July 04 2019 22:42 Holyflare wrote: Rayn what exactly are your reads actually? ES + Grackaroni mafia pretty much. | ||
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On July 04 2019 22:40 Grackaroni wrote: Because HF misreads people all the time as town and you read ES better than me in the last game and told me not to vote her. I glanced back at your filter in the last game. You made posts about both Shapelog/Eywa being mafia and you commented on all of the players narrowing down your mafia pool to 4 people. I don't recall you ruling many people out in this game, but I can check. I don't think my meta on ES has nothing to do with my read on her here. Last game was not meta. Last game was her willing to solve the game and willing to find mafia. I guess i could have been saying "ES is not willing to solve the game here" also, but instead i chose to point out "hard-evidence" aka the read on you and the HF stuff. I think you asked me about her meta at some point yesterday, no? I don't think the style someone posts is alignment indicative (unless you're terrible at this game as one alignment). It might be a starting point but it's nothing definitive. I have ruled out jock, i have ruled out eywa so far (granted, later), i had ruled out conv, i HAD ruled out you until i thought you started posting shit. Who else should town!rayn rule out? HF who is a sneaky bitch as mafia? Pandain who is defending my top scumread and well pretty much nothing else until late? Trfel who i did keep commenting on (but i didn't think he is the best lynch on D1 when i kinda scumread him)? ES who is my top scumread? | ||
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On July 04 2019 23:04 Eversince wrote: you're being so dense it's going to make me cry! how am i being dense? i asked you a legit question(s) and you never answered. i summed up the things you are scumread for and you didn't do jack shit to clear things up (assuming you are town). I even asked you for once to read carefully and answer the points on you, you didn't do jack shit. What am i supposed to think? That you are town because you call yourself town? | ||
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On July 04 2019 13:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: In simple words, HF is saying you agreed with his initial read. Which is what you did. Now youre saying hf might be mafia because his points were crap. By your own definition its impossible you think that unless you providr some new evidence for your change of mind, which you havent. Me and hf both have said you had a strong town read on grack based on things X just to say later that grack could do things X as either alignment. One of those things has to be a lie because nowhere in your filter you provide anything that i see should be changing your mind. Idc about what i said about your comment on hf. Noone is going to get what i am saying or why i think it comes ftom mafia!ES perspective so whatever. Noone got why i scumread shapelog last game. So i cba with that, theres more evidence anyways. I have yet to check what eywas point on you is reharding conversion, but it most likely will make sense since hf agrees it makes sense and hf as either alignment doesnt agrer with stuff that dont make sense. | ||
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On July 04 2019 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Me and hf both have said you had a strong town read on grack based on things X just to say later that grack could do things X as either alignment. One of those things has to be a lie because nowhere in your filter you provide anything that i see should be changing your mind. I have REPEATELY said I think Gracks play at that point was more NAI so we lynch better targets. But that doesn't correspond with your filter. You do: Grack is town because mia grack is town and mafia grack does shit. Grack is town because meta Grack is town because meta Grack is town because meta Grack is town because meta Grack is town because meta Grack is town because meta [much much later] Grack can be mia either as town or mafia!! it's an exaggerated example but that's what you said. | ||
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On July 05 2019 01:02 Eversince wrote: Like get it. I'm not saying Grack is town. I'm saying both m!/t!Grack both play that way! I gave HF the same reasons and now he's shown he can play. HF at least comes in and tries to change my mind when I engage. This is not a hard process!! yes that's what you've been saying for a while, but: On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: Grack's just a special one. He's got a funny personal attitude. I'm not wanting to lynch him today. He'll pick up and engage like he did last game or then we can lynch. But he's not trying to move us anywhere. Which is trash town play. But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. I question you on this and you say: On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote: I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see. ??????? | ||
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