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So strong players don't really do it as wolf (though they may have occasional lemons in their town games that play this way). Weak players dont typically do it due to lack of confidence as scum. | ||
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On July 09 2019 16:50 Trfel wrote: You want the real answer? I lied. I didn't think she had a strong scum game. But I wasn't going to call her out or say like "everyone but Eversince has a strong scum game," that's insulting. You can clearly see through the rest of my posts, especially the early ones, that I characterized Eversince's mafia game as forced, dry, formulaic, aka not that great. But I try to be nice and non-insulting. Obviously I was wrong, and her play this game was incredibly improved. But that's why I said what I said, I basically just omitted an exception for Eversince to avoid being insulting. If that makes me mafia I'd do it again anyway. The irony of this post if you flip town. Too bad you won't. | ||
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On July 09 2019 13:41 Trfel wrote: Honestly I don't know what to say other than I'm sorry for playing an absolutely miserable game. You guys deserve to win and I'm truly sorry that my poor play took that away from you. I don't feel like making a case on Jockmcplop, I don't think it would change anything. This is not a town entrance. | ||
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On July 10 2019 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Eywa are you around for how long? I just got off work i am reading Jock's fliter. I'm barely around. | ||
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On July 09 2019 13:41 Trfel wrote: 1. My initial townread on Eversince. The reason I posted it was to start conversation. If you look at every town game I've played in years, I've started with an early read of some type to try and get the game going. Yes I know it's a stretch, but it effectively got the game started, so I consider it a success. Look at any if my games where I was present early on and you will see this trend. 2. Voting for Conversion. Again, I wasn't trying to hide my presence in the thread, I posted 10 minutes before the deadline. I wasn't trying to hide my vote either, but I was on a phone and I was rushing to read as much of Conversion's filter as possible. I thought my time was better spent trying to read Conversion's filter and deciding what to do than posting in the thread. Maybe that was wrong but that's what I did. The fact that he only later explains that he voted conversion because of a scum read is awful... In this post he basically just says he read his filter, but doesn't explicitly state his EOD reads which is kind of what I'd be looking for town to do if they were justifying a fuck up. | ||
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I mean, trfel also said today that it wasn't due to a town read on ES, but a mafia read on Conversion? So... He didn't have a solid town read on ES, and he had not discussed anything negative about Conversion at all that day. So... Instead of posting something like "why not grack?" or point to someone he actually talked about, he re-read Conversion's filter (note: he didn't re-read ES who he claims he was not town reading to the point of saving). And he comes to the conclusion with 0 discussion that Conversion is definitely scummy. Well, that doesn't make much sense. There are even points during Day 1 where trfel liked Conversion I think... But I'd have to go back and check. | ||
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Trfel scum reads me all of day 1, never pushes my lynch over Conversion... Me, being town, the last 10 minutes of day 1 from Trfel position would be pushing a scum read, not checking to see if I have a scum read. Also, remember #915? Well, who did Trfel push day 2? Rayn... Why? Because Rayn makes more sense for town!jockmcplop to push than Eywa. | ||
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On July 09 2019 13:49 Trfel wrote: Also I didn't try to save Eversince, I tried to lynch mafia. To me there is a difference. With Conversion that was a random lynch to save Eversince; with you I thought you were mafia. I did look at Eversince's filter D2 to re-evaluate and found some suspicious things, I really really regret not paying them more attention  But it is a lie to say I did not re-evaluate Eversince D2 because I spent a significant amount of time in her filter and my thoughts are clearly posted. | ||
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On July 10 2019 01:56 Trfel wrote: No that's not what I said at all, Day 1 I voted because of a town read on Eversince. I didn't have a solid read on Conversion. What makes you think otherwise? | ||
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On July 05 2019 15:16 Trfel wrote: I'm not mafia and I refuse to be lynched, better try something else. Judging purely by gamestate here it makes sense to me that raynpelikoneet is mafia, it feels like mafia has a decent amount of thread pull and influence. Honestly it makes me think of raynpelikoneet/Eywa- or raynpelikoneet/jockmcplop. I have no other real reason for why raynpelikoneet is mafia though Jockmcplop, can I ask you why I should be towreading you? (not a challenge, honest question) This post is terrible, it seems like preparation for when Eversince dies, because that clears me and Rayn... He has to maintain a scum read on Jockmcplop. | ||
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On July 10 2019 02:02 Trfel wrote: Day 1 vs Day 2... Day 1 saved Eversince Day 2 tried to vote for mafia (still thought Eversince was town, stupidly) You were on a wagon with people who had mafia reads on 3 townies... How did you come to the decision that you were not re-reading their filters? | ||
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On July 10 2019 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Trfel says on D1 he didn't vote to save ES. He voted Conv because he thought ES is town and with Conv he would have at least a chance to lynch mafia. On D2 he says he wasn't gonna save ES and the situation is anyways different from D1 because he had a scumread (rayn). Day 2, he also voted you because he thought ES was town. | ||
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I read this. Funny thing about this: Grackaroni and Jockmcplop had nearly identical reads D1 and committed to the same end result. What would you say Grackaroni's alignment is? | ||
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jockmcplop's play is objectively bad this game (sorry man), and he's been wrong. Trfel's play has been anything but noteworthy, he doesn't seem to be having a particularly bad game, but when you look at the results... Woah, it's a horrible game. | ||
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