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On July 05 2019 19:50 Jockmcplop wrote: Eversince should be voting for me...
Eversince thinks eversince is town.
Why would she vote for someone who is trying to save town??? That's insane. Why would I be trying to save town if I was mafia??
So you believe with near 100% certainty that it's me and Rayn?
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On July 05 2019 19:52 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 19:51 Eywa- wrote:On July 05 2019 19:46 Jockmcplop wrote: Are you trying to think of something? I know you're here. Answer the question!!!
If I'm scum with rayn WHY THE FUCK WOULD I NOT JUST VOTE FOR ES??? Because hammer doesn't end the day.I also don't think it's the scum combo. I was explaining how your current wagon is coo coo for cocoa puffs. Yeah but with me rayn and pand on ES unless one of them changes its the end of the game unless ES is mafia. Who do you think is the scum combo? Me and trfel? Me and ES? Why do you think I'm mafia all of a sudden? None of what you're saying makes any sense at all. I'm not accusing anyone, I'm trying to get you to see that you being on a vote with ES makes no sense.
Let's say ES and you are both town.
The only possible mafia combo is me and Rayn.
Do you firmly believe that to be the case?
If not?
Change your vote.
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On July 05 2019 19:53 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 19:51 Eywa- wrote:On July 05 2019 19:50 Jockmcplop wrote: Eversince should be voting for me...
Eversince thinks eversince is town.
Why would she vote for someone who is trying to save town??? That's insane. Why would I be trying to save town if I was mafia??
So you believe with near 100% certainty that it's me and Rayn? NO Its its either you/rayn or trfel/ES Like I said before I'm about 75% in favour of it being you/rayn Truffle is not scum with anyone other than ES, the day 1 hammer indicates that.
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So, I'd you and ES have the game solved, why aren't you both confident? Its mechanically solved if you town read each other.
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On July 05 2019 19:56 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 19:55 Eywa- wrote:On July 05 2019 19:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 05 2019 19:51 Eywa- wrote:On July 05 2019 19:50 Jockmcplop wrote: Eversince should be voting for me...
Eversince thinks eversince is town.
Why would she vote for someone who is trying to save town??? That's insane. Why would I be trying to save town if I was mafia??
So you believe with near 100% certainty that it's me and Rayn? NO Its its either you/rayn or trfel/ES Like I said before I'm about 75% in favour of it being you/rayn Truffle is not scum with anyone other than ES, the day 1 hammer indicates that. That's exactly what I said scumteam possibility 1: Rayn/Eywa -75% Scumteam possibility 2 trfel/ES - 25% Why can't it be Rayn + ES?
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On July 05 2019 19:57 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 19:56 Eywa- wrote: So, I'd you and ES have the game solved, why aren't you both confident? Its mechanically solved if you town read each other. I'm fairly confident. I'm not 100% townreading ES.. This is exactly what I've been saying for a few pages. That's why I was saying to truffles that 1 of rayn/ES is mafia. We need to work out which one, then the game is solved. But we agree the game is solved from ES PoV?
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Jock seems to understand his town perspective better than anyone in the game, so I assume he's town. So...
Possible mafia combinations are truffle + ES, ES + rayn or Rayn + truffle.
Since none of those align with the possible combinations of t!es, ES has to be mafia.
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On July 05 2019 19:59 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 19:58 Eywa- wrote:On July 05 2019 19:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 05 2019 19:55 Eywa- wrote:On July 05 2019 19:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 05 2019 19:51 Eywa- wrote:On July 05 2019 19:50 Jockmcplop wrote: Eversince should be voting for me...
Eversince thinks eversince is town.
Why would she vote for someone who is trying to save town??? That's insane. Why would I be trying to save town if I was mafia??
So you believe with near 100% certainty that it's me and Rayn? NO Its its either you/rayn or trfel/ES Like I said before I'm about 75% in favour of it being you/rayn Truffle is not scum with anyone other than ES, the day 1 hammer indicates that. That's exactly what I said scumteam possibility 1: Rayn/Eywa -75% Scumteam possibility 2 trfel/ES - 25% Why can't it be Rayn + ES? I'm pretty much ruling it out because of how the game has gone so far. It could be, but I'm putting that down as being extremely unlikely. This remote possibility is why we should vote into whichever of rayn/ES we decide is mafia. The issue with ruling that out is... If ES is mafia, you, pandain and truffle have acted as her scum team... Therefore Rayn would not have had to do anything.
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Yeah, so 100% we lynch ES today, and we try to solve between Rayn and Truffle
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On July 05 2019 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: did you become an idiot somehow eywa? i am never ever in any fucking world mafia with eversince. neither are you so why the fuck can't you see that? I still think Truffle is the more likely scum buddy, but I can't definitively say that.
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On July 05 2019 21:14 Jockmcplop wrote:Eywa some of your early reads are still unexplained. Are you in an explainy mood today? I'd like to know where your townreads came from early on, specifically these ones: Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 02:07 Eywa- wrote: Truffles, Jock and Conversion probably won't fall into my lynch pool anytime soon. Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 02:07 Eywa- wrote: We can probably take Pandain out of that for now too. They weren't town reads, just outside of my interest to lynch day 1.
Combination of factors
1) ES was super scummy and would be the first and only lynch from the jock/truffles/pandain wagon.
2) I felt like Conversion's entrance was OK and then people's reactions to him made him more likely town than HF and Rayn who at this point were in agreement and didn't argue at all.
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On July 05 2019 22:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 22:06 Eywa- wrote:On July 05 2019 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: did you become an idiot somehow eywa? i am never ever in any fucking world mafia with eversince. neither are you so why the fuck can't you see that? I still think Truffle is the more likely scum buddy, but I can't definitively say that. i don't think that's the case, i just posted about jock. trfel at least is trying to be reasonable, jock just decided who to call mafia and is making the evidence to fit his case even when the evidence clearly suggest otherwise. Jock understands his town position, Truffle has demonstrated no such understanding.
Truffle hammered D1, but somehow was AFK at both flips, waited to get the vibe before posting.
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Jock, I think you should take it easy. You're being anti-town now.
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On July 05 2019 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 15:11 Jockmcplop wrote: So I've got:
trfel + es
vs
rayn + pandain
at the moment, right?
Look guys, let's assume jock really forgot about eywa. Okay this makes sense but the he says: Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 15:20 Jockmcplop wrote: Rayn, pandain read that above, surely you agree?
I could go with you on ES next day but trfel is 100% mafia Pandain is confirmed vigilante aka confirmed town so he writes off pandain + rayn. The only possible combo for him here is Trfel + ES but [u][i]Trfel is 100% mafia and ES is NOT 100% mafia?!?!?!?!?! If jock really forgot about eywa and is telling the truth in his first post then BOTH of Trfel and ES are ALWAYS 100% mafia. So jock is lying 100% of the time here. Al-fucking-ways. This is correct. So is ES though, so let's just lynch her.
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@pandain
Please confirm if you are 1-shot. I have confirmed with the mod that your shot would go through even if you are NK, so this isn't LyLo. If we narrow down the PoE to 3, it's gg.
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On July 07 2019 04:34 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2019 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well then youre mosy likely voting for yourself tomorrow. Bad choice but I'll likely not be here defending myself so look at trfel also while i'm not here because trfel is definitely mafia. So what did we learn?
If you're voting with 2 other players and your top 3 scum reads flip town...
STOP VOTING WITH THAT BLOCK.
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I think jock's case is terrible, but that's to be expected as the town among them has not done well this game.
Trfel's game overall just looks like someone who's not trying to get into trouble. The hammer with less than a minute day 1 is really bad. 1) it saves mafia 2) there was comment on it.
I would expect a townie who comes back for a last minute check to hesitate long enough to carry them over deadline or to at least comment on how close it came because they came to the thread, decided and hammered with less than a minute left.
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