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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:29 GMT
#826
On July 03 2019 18:16 Eversince wrote:
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On July 03 2019 18:08 Holyflare wrote:
On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote:
I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before.

@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this.


I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto.


Meek? I've hard defended Grack on a meta read all game!

@Pand ok but don't see the issue. My own read :Grack gets his thing together or lynch.I talk to Grack and he is still basic 'I'm be useless'. Everyone else pages later: Grack gets his things togthero or we lynch him.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:29 GMT
#827
On July 04 2019 04:28 Pandain wrote:
HF no idea why you're talking when you're never gonna change your mind in a million years


Because I know you tools will do some stupid shit and she won't get lynched.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:35 GMT
#832
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:39 GMT
#840
On July 04 2019 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
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On July 04 2019 04:28 Pandain wrote:
HF no idea why you're talking when you're never gonna change your mind in a million years


Because I know you tools will do some stupid shit and she won't get lynched.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:42 GMT
#843
On July 04 2019 04:30 Eversince wrote:
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On July 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:27 Eversince wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:24 Eversince wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Sorry Eversince but I am selfish and nobody is considering other lynches.


It's ok. I hope you don't mind I do the same. I'm town so surviving is high on my list. I didn't want to lynch you yet though because I figured you'd play.


THIS is my point exactly.

WHY do you figure he'll just randomly play instead of being mafia??????????????

BUT THEN you say during the day "grack is being useless, maybe he's a good vote!"????????


Because he's FORCED to play as mafia. t!Grack doesn't care here and want to be useful so to AVOID this happening! Why so hard to understand?


Then why did you say he's starting to be a good lynch for not playing???


Sheesh do I ned to go over this again? I had multiple page over the reasons I didn't want to lynch Grack yet.


Let me make this really blunt because I think you're essentially confirmed mafia now.

You have said that Grack does the following things:

A) As mafia he is PRESENT in the thread and CONTROLS it through his actions.
B) As town he is AFK and then comes back and makes MEANINGFUL posts.

You town read Grack for B.

Grack CONTINUED to do B and you then changed your read to "If he doesn't contribute then he's mafia" which goes against your meta read of Grack being mafia (A).

I think you made this entirely up and saw that Grack was a counter wagon and then eroded your meta read to give you the option of looking like you're evaluating him but you failed because it's a direct contradiction.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:43 GMT
#846
On July 04 2019 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
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On July 04 2019 04:30 Eversince wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:27 Eversince wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:24 Eversince wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Sorry Eversince but I am selfish and nobody is considering other lynches.


It's ok. I hope you don't mind I do the same. I'm town so surviving is high on my list. I didn't want to lynch you yet though because I figured you'd play.


THIS is my point exactly.

WHY do you figure he'll just randomly play instead of being mafia??????????????

BUT THEN you say during the day "grack is being useless, maybe he's a good vote!"????????


Because he's FORCED to play as mafia. t!Grack doesn't care here and want to be useful so to AVOID this happening! Why so hard to understand?


Then why did you say he's starting to be a good lynch for not playing???


Sheesh do I ned to go over this again? I had multiple page over the reasons I didn't want to lynch Grack yet.


Let me make this really blunt because I think you're essentially confirmed mafia now.

You have said that Grack does the following things:

A) As mafia he is PRESENT in the thread and CONTROLS it through his actions.
B) As town he is AFK and then comes back and makes MEANINGFUL posts.

You town read Grack for B.

Grack CONTINUED to do B and you then changed your read to "If he doesn't contribute then he's mafia" which goes against your meta read of Grack being mafia (A).

I think you made this entirely up and saw that Grack was a counter wagon and then eroded your meta read to give you the option of looking like you're evaluating him but you failed because it's a direct contradiction.


You town read Grack for B should actually be you neglected to ever give a concrete read on Grack even though he was doing B but still defended him saying he will come back and be town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:44 GMT
#847
It's extremely convenient that ES is the leading lynch for most of the day with people trying to start multiple counter wagons but only at deadline do people decide to shenanigan off to someone that they haven't really given any thought towards after being absent from the thread through most of the discussions.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:49 GMT
#850
On July 04 2019 04:48 Eversince wrote:
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On July 04 2019 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:30 Eversince wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:27 Eversince wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:24 Eversince wrote:
On July 04 2019 04:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Sorry Eversince but I am selfish and nobody is considering other lynches.


It's ok. I hope you don't mind I do the same. I'm town so surviving is high on my list. I didn't want to lynch you yet though because I figured you'd play.


THIS is my point exactly.

WHY do you figure he'll just randomly play instead of being mafia??????????????

BUT THEN you say during the day "grack is being useless, maybe he's a good vote!"????????


Because he's FORCED to play as mafia. t!Grack doesn't care here and want to be useful so to AVOID this happening! Why so hard to understand?


Then why did you say he's starting to be a good lynch for not playing???


Sheesh do I ned to go over this again? I had multiple page over the reasons I didn't want to lynch Grack yet.


Let me make this really blunt because I think you're essentially confirmed mafia now.

You have said that Grack does the following things:

A) As mafia he is PRESENT in the thread and CONTROLS it through his actions.
B) As town he is AFK and then comes back and makes MEANINGFUL posts.

You town read Grack for B.

Grack CONTINUED to do B and you then changed your read to "If he doesn't contribute then he's mafia" which goes against your meta read of Grack being mafia (A).

I think you made this entirely up and saw that Grack was a counter wagon and then eroded your meta read to give you the option of looking like you're evaluating him but you failed because it's a direct contradiction.


This is all bullshit HF! I'm so tired of fighting but ok let's do this dance.

I've REPEATEDLY said I THINK Grack can mia/ or not as EITHER alignment!
This is not a reason to lynch Grack over more possible mafia ever.
You continue to hate on me for it. Which I'm starting to worry about.
More worrying that you say I "made it up" when I've been hard defending Grack literally all D1.



Where do you say this?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:51 GMT
#853
On July 04 2019 04:50 Eversince wrote:
HF are you trying to intentionally get me to spam the thread? It's everywhere. Other people have responded to it. If your not even bother to read the thread .


Quote it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:51 GMT
#854
I will wait.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:55 GMT
#857
On July 04 2019 04:53 Eversince wrote:
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On July 04 2019 04:51 Holyflare wrote:
I will wait.


No. If you are too lazy to filter me that's not making me mafia.
But it might mean you are.


Then I will proceed on the basis that it does not exist. It is your prerogative to provide me with evidence to the contrary of my read because tomorrow I will be leading the lynch on you and nothing will dissuade me other than cold hard evidence to the contrary. I will not let these monkeys divert this next lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:58 GMT
#861
On July 04 2019 04:57 Pandain wrote:
That's just one. There's like six or seven you can find


This is after the fact she got called out. That is not real.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 20:38 GMT
#889
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
I think your point about both are fine. Rayn generally will push hard, but not get irate with you, if he thinks your doing something. If he isn't sure he's not going to try to put you on a stick and burn you. The problem with Conversion is that he came in, rehashed a valid point, ignored the rest of the thread and left.

Grack's just a special one. He's got a funny personal attitude. I'm not wanting to lynch him today. He'll pick up and engage like he did last game or then we can lynch. But he's not trying to move us anywhere. Which is trash town play. But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.


Like voting our parity cop.........

On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:
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On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?


Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty!


The meta wasn't even meta, it was just a general that's what mafia does post??????? Didn't sound like it in the slightest and I think you got called out here.

On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote:
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On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?


Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty!

If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?


I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see.


Now it is meta again.......

On July 02 2019 16:15 Eversince wrote:
Assuming Grack is mafia where is he taking that Pand? Just throwing shadows? I'll agree he's been useless but last game was the same. Most I've played with him he's been in-active then picks up and is semi useful.


TOWN meta.

On July 02 2019 16:28 Eversince wrote:
I need to figure who to vote for. I'd be fine with Conv for reasons I already said. Grack would be ok but rather not, if he's town he'll start playing. Or we just lynch into lurkers. Which is also trash.


Grack would be an okay lynch, wow that town meta sure devolved quickly. He's not even doing that thing you said he does as mafia. This is softly calling him town too just like you did to me because he could literally just afk and be mafia.


On July 02 2019 18:02 Eversince wrote:
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On July 02 2019 17:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 17:27 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?


Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty!

If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?




On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?


Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty!

If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?


I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see.


Why does grack necessarily want to change thread sentiment about 4hrs and a total of 1 townread in thread into the game? Why is it more scummy to want to do something than not do anything?


Exactly, m!Grack makes no sense to me there because he just mia off. Nothing happens that early. You either try to be active and start the thread or just mia. Which he did. Or you try to get groundwork into looking town (Which he didn't). Showing up and being general useless doesn't make any sense as town or mafia. But Grack is flighty, tends to put a hell of a lot more effort late D1/D2. I don't like him continuing to be useless but I made post on this already. If he's still useless day 2 we can just lynch him but standard Grack play is standard Grack.


None of this post makes the slightest bit of sense. It's a town read for going afk but you also say mafia grack can afk but you also say mafia Grack makes no sense? So which is it?

On July 02 2019 18:26 Eversince wrote:
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On July 02 2019 18:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you, ES, think that grack is self-aware of his meta to some extent?


He's been playing since I joined this site so I'm sure yes. Probably uses it to advantage as scum, why I think he's not worth the lynch now but later? Sure.

@Jock I'll go filter that game and brainstorm.


Grack is self away of meta probably, that's why he should be lynched later.......? Why does this make any sense? If he's self aware of meta then his meta IS to afk as town is what you're saying. If he is self aware of this and afks then how does it make any sense to lynch him because he can do that as town????

On July 03 2019 00:32 Eversince wrote:
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On July 03 2019 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2019 00:23 Eversince wrote:
Sorry, took a nap! I'm back now though!

who made the above post then? :O


Guilty as charged! I'm just reading up thread and trying to make conclusions. Your Pand point makes sense but why would m!Pand point it out? He did vote me but he didn't push for it. m!Pand here would want to start a wagon? Oh crap, I think that happened though! No one seems to like me !

Also you sum my Grack points back up yourself. He could be mafia, but he could be t!Grack here and not giving a darn. I don't like to lynch town.


He could be mafia but he could be town grack for afking? So you won't lynch him because he COULD be town??

On July 03 2019 00:42 Eversince wrote:
@Rayn

He doesn't but it could be either m!Grack/t!Grack. I'm saying we lynch most likely mafia over him. Because Grack playstyle make it hard to tell if he's m!Grack yet because his town play looks the same D1.


His meta has completely changed from him afking as town to him now being aware of his town meta as mafia and now he could be doing it as mafia.

On July 03 2019 00:47 Eversince wrote:
.......I'm getting annoyed with answering this! It's all over my filter!

I think Grack could play his inactive self d1 as either mafia!Grack or town!Grack. I give him the pass today because I know this about him. I would still lynch but I think it's not worth our votes with better options


Now it's not even him being self aware it's just it's his meta as either alignment. THIS IS COMPLETELY COMPLETELY different to what you've already said at the start of the game!

On July 03 2019 01:04 Eversince wrote:
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On July 03 2019 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i have your words on "Exactly, m!Grack makes no sense" and you're now telling me "I think Grack could play his inactive self d1 as either mafia!Grack or town!Grack"??????????????


I said 'I don't want to lynch Grack because x'..
Rayn stop being dense!


You berate rayn for making a TOTALLY valid point.

On July 03 2019 01:18 Eversince wrote:
Okok Rayn. I make this as simple as I can.

My issue with lynching Grack has always been 'Grack is being useless!'
Truffles said something about it 'he's not posting gifs and making jokes'
I say 'Yeh, but he might be trying to change because people wanted to lynch him last game for the same reason'
(Not in those words but basic thoughts I had)
Grack mia/being general useless is not uncommon. I've played with him enough to know.
I'm saying I don't think m!Grack does come into thread, be useless then disappears, for no better reason than to make himself look bad. t!Grack totally wouldn't care..

Conclusion:
Grack may totes be scum. But his play there is not a reason to think he is a mafia yet.


Now you're just assuming he's changing his meta based on absolutely nothing but why do you even mention he MIGHT be changing his meta when you've already been saying it IS his meta to do this??????

Now you're also saying mafia grack doesn't come into the thread to disappear but your conclusion is that he might be scum????

On July 03 2019 01:30 Eversince wrote:
Given the fact thats how Grack plays period and I know it.. Yeh, makes no sense. Not a 0%chance for reasons I've repeated like 65536 times now but yeh. It made me think 'why does m!Grack bother here?' 'he doesn't he just mia' thus t!Grack for now because there are other things I want to think about. That's it. Interpreting any other way is just wrong.


Repeating the read.

On July 03 2019 11:40 Eversince wrote:
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On July 03 2019 11:09 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm not drunk you're drunk.


Grack stop being useless! I've given you so much room this game but everyone wants to kill for that crap. You've really giving me no reason to think your scum yet but I'm die because of 'loose reads'!

Also if you don't start posting super town soon I'm have to re-evaluate myself because you made your yourself obvious town last game. Where is it here?


No reason to think you're scum yet but I might reevaluate!

On July 03 2019 11:45 Eversince wrote:
Town is getting mislynched and Grack read my is a reason why. Please do something! Because I spent so much time and effort into defending saying you would do stuff. Show it already.. I post about Conv.. nothing I post about Ewya.. nothing.. I post about Pandain.. nothing. Are you just mafia letting town die? Because I wanted to let you off for your meta but this is just bologna.!


YOU'RE LITERALLY APPEALING TO A GUY WHO YOU THINK COULD BE MAFIA OR TOWN BUT THIS REALLY LOOKS LIKE YOU KNOW HE'S TOWN.

On July 03 2019 17:44 Eversince wrote:
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On July 03 2019 17:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 03 2019 17:35 Eversince wrote:
I got called off to work. but I'm back now if people want to talk!


It would be in your interest to take a look at grack, given that he's now the alternate wagon to you!


I've already said what I feel about Grack. His poor contribution after I defend him so hard is bleh though. I'd be ok with lynching him to be honest.


HIS POOR CONTRIBUTION THAT YOU SAID MAKES HIM TOWN MAKES HIM AN OKAY LYNCH.

You literally said he's useless till day 2 at least!!!!! Your read has totally flipped when he's doing EXACTLY what you say he does as town. And he isn't pushing any agenda like you said he would as mafia!

On July 03 2019 17:49 Eversince wrote:
No actually Grack can wait I still think what Ewya did is so scummy, This needs dealt with first.


But then you ditch it to Eywa when Grack becomes a wagon!!!

On July 03 2019 18:16 Eversince wrote:
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On July 03 2019 18:08 Holyflare wrote:
On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote:
I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before.

@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this.


I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto.


Meek? I've hard defended Grack on a meta read all game!

@Pand ok but don't see the issue. My own read :Grack gets his thing together or lynch.I talk to Grack and he is still basic 'I'm be useless'. Everyone else pages later: Grack gets his things togthero or we lynch him.


Now you've hard defended Grack all game, that's your own admission! Why would you hard defend someone you think still could be mafia and even said he could be mafia after all?








I can't make this stuff up. It's literally right here in your filter. First, you make a meta read up on Grack but then that's proven wrong and you say it's a general meta read for people when they play mafia. Then you change it to say that Grack afks as town and does things to control the game as mafia. Then you get called out again and it CHANGES to Grack afks as town and comes back to play but mafia Grack doesn't.

Then it changes again to mafia Grack knows his town meta and could be emulating it!

Then it changes to Grack's actual mafia meta is to also afk!

Then you say to someone that Grack is changing his meta on gif posting based on last game maybe??????

Then you say you have no reason to lynch Grack because he could be town (or presumably mafia now)

Then you interact with Grack saying prove you right and play. BUT HIS MAFIA META ISN'T JUST TO AFK EITHER SO HOW IS THAT RELEVANT.

Then you appeal to Grack to do something because you defended him and say he's the reason you're getting lynched but don't EVER EVER just assume Grack is mafia letting you die if you're town. You never assume this at any point. Ever.

Then suddenly his poor contribution makes him mafia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But then Eywa is suddenly a better lynch??????????????


Then you say you've hard defended Grack on a meta read all game but YOU MAKE NO CONCLUSION ON HIS ALIGNMENT STILL AND NOTHING MAKES SENSE.

You are really really really just mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 20:45 GMT
#890
I don't think Eywa's points are invalid in any way. Defending your town read before they've even posted is my number one gripe with people. It absolves any kind of pressure on them and let's them basically get away for free because they already know your thoughts and how to manipulate them. This is just like when Jock was pressuring me and Pandain was answering for me. If I'm mafia I already know how to manipulate at least one person (Pandain) to agree with my point of view on Eywa because he's already given me an out by answering for me and now I suddenly have Pandain on my side and half the pressure of voting me is gone.

Not talking about your reads I will disagree with though because sometimes it's good to back and forth and get your ideas out there.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 21:27 GMT
#892
On July 04 2019 06:11 Eywa- wrote:
I think #116 & #117 is a hard slip to be honest, when trfl asks about ES' reads, she makes up a read on Conversion which contradicts what she said about conversions in #104.

That's a quick conversion from conversion is fine to conversion is bleh.


wow that's really correct lol

the points why conversion changes to bleh is that he pointed out good points but didn't comment on the rest of the game too which shouldn't make him bleh at all.....
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 22:15 GMT
#894
On July 04 2019 07:12 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
On July 04 2019 06:11 Eywa- wrote:
I think #116 & #117 is a hard slip to be honest, when trfl asks about ES' reads, she makes up a read on Conversion which contradicts what she said about conversions in #104.

That's a quick conversion from conversion is fine to conversion is bleh.


wow that's really correct lol

the points why conversion changes to bleh is that he pointed out good points but didn't comment on the rest of the game too which shouldn't make him bleh at all.....


Why is me thinking what I did then make me scum? I'm sorry t!Conv died but that wasn't the reason here. Your trying to real hard to put a mafia poster on me. Which t!ES never gets shot tonight because easy mislynch.


I don't know why you're asking me when Eywa is the one pointing it out but it's quite simple. You first said that Conversion's entrance was fine and then somehow you've completely changed your point of view to it's not fine.

Not only is that a contradiction but your points for calling it not fine are that the points Conversion raised were GOOD points and well reasoned so you shouldn't be changing your mind to Conversion being bleh because of that, it just seems like baseless posturing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 22:46 GMT
#897
Yes, nicely just debase my entire argument by calling it trash multiple times but never really addressing it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 22:46 GMT
#898
After all that's what you did at the deadline BEFORE you even knew exactly what my argument was lol.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 22:52 GMT
#902
On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:
On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:
On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.)
@Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince?

Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment.


She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment.

I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't.


Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't.

My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be.


Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap.


This literally happened.

I called your meta read on me crap and voted on you.

You backtracked and said, yeah, you got it wrong.

You said I was correct to not like you because of it.

I said many other points after this.

You enter the thread and say "summarise for me because I thought your points against me were crap".

You then just say my points are the meta read against you and that's it but you already said those were fine. So, not only did you not know why I was actually scum reading you at that point but on top of that you've changed your point of view on the meta read points too!

Now you're coming back into the thread saying you don't know if I'm scum or not because the points against you are, yet again, crap but you never ever address them AGAIN. You tell me to just read your filter because it's all there but guess what, that's exactly what you're going to have to do to my filter now because it's all in there for you to read and comment on.

Solve the game, prove me wrong and that you're town. Don't just needlessly pander to people. I am not lynching eywa and don't think I ever will and don't really think they're mafia so you're barking up the wrong tree here. Who else is mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 23:32 GMT
#903
pandain jockmcplop Grackaroni eversince trfel

People that voted conversion and posted shit all to solving the game or why they voted the way they did after they lynched the parity cop:

Pandain, jock, grack, Eversince, trfel

People that voted Eversince:

Rayn, hf, eywa, conversion

People that didn't vote the parity but still talked about reads and who to lynch after the parity cop mishap:

Hf, eywa

There's at least 2 confirmed town on the eversince wagon in myself and conversion and I'm pretty sure eywa is town too. That means that unless you all think rayn is mafia (which almost none of you do) then either eversince is town and all the mafia suddenly bandwagoned conversion to look shit at the end of the day lynching town instead of afking or there's a much more simple answer that Eversince is mafia and you played right into their objective.
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