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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:30 GMT
#881
On July 04 2019 05:28 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 05:26 Pandain wrote:
What does white knighting even me.

If I think someone is town, I'm going to defend them.
Saying otherwise is stupid.

Accuracy is important as well... But more so than that, if you don't defend people who you think are town (which is white knighting), it leaves less space for scum to help each other and take over the game.

It's an objectively bad play for town, due to the implications it has on scum team. If you never do it as town, scum team are more isolated from their partners.

This goes back to what I was saying yesterday, the #1 most important skill for town is staying alive, so that they don't need people to defend them.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:32 GMT
#883
Anyway, theory aside.

I think it's pretty clear I'm voting ES tomorrow, nothing has changed for me really, it's not like conversion was completely outside of my poe, he was just higher up.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:33 GMT
#884
On July 04 2019 05:32 Eversince wrote:
Ok! -Lets talk random game tactics instead of trying to find scum- Eywa 2019

Or we can all ask the global town read questions
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:36 GMT
#886
On July 04 2019 05:35 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 05:33 Eywa- wrote:
On July 04 2019 05:32 Eversince wrote:
Ok! -Lets talk random game tactics instead of trying to find scum- Eywa 2019

Or we can all ask the global town read questions


Or you can I guess, be useful, contribute.

Contributing my reads does nothing to progress the game state if everyone thinks I'm town. Unless they think my reads have a higher accuracy than their own, which... They don't. So I'm not sure what you're getting at.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 21:11 GMT
#891
I think #116 & #117 is a hard slip to be honest, when trfl asks about ES' reads, she makes up a read on Conversion which contradicts what she said about conversions in #104.

That's a quick conversion from conversion is fine to conversion is bleh.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 12:25 GMT
#1027
On July 04 2019 21:22 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 21:21 Pandain wrote:
Grack why do you think I'd get shot?

Because you're being townie and you won't get lynched.

I agree with this, solid chance Pandain dies, which is probably a good thing for town despite the fact that he's obvtown.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 12:31 GMT
#1035
I'd be good with lynching Pandain tomorrow tbh.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 12:32 GMT
#1039
On July 04 2019 21:31 Pandain wrote:
I'd be good with lynching Eywa, someone who is down with lynching someone who he thinks is obvtown

obv town doesn't mean pro town
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 12:39 GMT
#1045
I actually agree with most of the case against HolyFlare by the way, I just can't get past the fact that we dodged an ES lynch to hammer our PR. I was kind of leaning ES (if town) -> HF...

But obviously the counter wagon screwed that plan. Now, I'm in a rough spot, because the element of "what do I allow people to get away with" comes into it. I think if Jock is scum for instance, he needs to be lynched... So I might weigh a little bit less purely on reads and a bit more on "what if" and who deserves death.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 12:40 GMT
#1047
On July 04 2019 21:38 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 21:31 Holyflare wrote:
Unless the only thing you're talking about is your really really awful logic point of why does ES not vote Grack WHO YOU THINK IS MAFIA over anyone else.


Why does m!ES hard stand against the only other wagon against her?! I literally die here and town is 1 down. m!ES never plays that way so I know you can't prove it.

1) Because you wanted to town tell
2) Because Grack is also mafia
3) Because you didn't actually think Grack would get lynched

I mean... Stop playing this "Why would I do this" game. It's generally anti-town.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 12:44 GMT
#1049
On July 04 2019 21:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 21:39 Eywa- wrote:
I actually agree with most of the case against HolyFlare by the way, I just can't get past the fact that we dodged an ES lynch to hammer our PR. I was kind of leaning ES (if town) -> HF...

But obviously the counter wagon screwed that plan. Now, I'm in a rough spot, because the element of "what do I allow people to get away with" comes into it. I think if Jock is scum for instance, he needs to be lynched... So I might weigh a little bit less purely on reads and a bit more on "what if" and who deserves death.


You do you eywa, but I can't see you managing to convince anyone to vote with you on a townread because you feel like they deserve to die.

Well, vote ES instead. I still think that's a fine lynch.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 12:53 GMT
#1052
On July 04 2019 21:40 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 21:38 Eversince wrote:
On July 04 2019 21:31 Holyflare wrote:
Unless the only thing you're talking about is your really really awful logic point of why does ES not vote Grack WHO YOU THINK IS MAFIA over anyone else.


Why does m!ES hard stand against the only other wagon against her?! I literally die here and town is 1 down. m!ES never plays that way so I know you can't prove it.

1) Because you wanted to town tell
2) Because Grack is also mafia
3) Because you didn't actually think Grack would get lynched

I mean... Stop playing this "Why would I do this" game. It's generally anti-town.

Actually, it's funny because there are more reasons why you would do this than otherwise as scum.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 13:38 GMT
#1097
I hope we lose.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 13:47 GMT
#1103
On July 04 2019 22:40 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa talk me through why it's ES into lynching me in your lynch order?

I never lynch you if ES flips mafia and I thought there was a decent chance ES would flip mafia. Everything she's posting now seems like a lie / blatant misunderstanding, yet tone seems townie which goes back to what I was saying about someone under pressure... It's absolutely pointless. I'm sticking to the early reads, when she wasn't under pressure when Truffle asked her a question early on an she completely 180 on Conversion because she needed a scum/null read. The early game felt so forced... It's almost like a caricature of her town meta which she repeatedly indicates she's aware of.

For you, I think you're coming across almost as informed more than anything. (in comparison to your town game)
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 14:10 GMT
#1111
On July 04 2019 22:53 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 22:47 Eywa- wrote:
On July 04 2019 22:40 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa talk me through why it's ES into lynching me in your lynch order?

I never lynch you if ES flips mafia and I thought there was a decent chance ES would flip mafia. Everything she's posting now seems like a lie / blatant misunderstanding, yet tone seems townie which goes back to what I was saying about someone under pressure... It's absolutely pointless. I'm sticking to the early reads, when she wasn't under pressure when Truffle asked her a question early on an she completely 180 on Conversion because she needed a scum/null read. The early game felt so forced... It's almost like a caricature of her town meta which she repeatedly indicates she's aware of.

For you, I think you're coming across almost as informed more than anything. (in comparison to your town game)


So we're going back to you'll lynch me because you think I'm mafia? You'll ignore the m!HF (you world) who is 'informed' (TMI) But I'm the better lynch? What?!

It's actually hilarious that you're still on about this. I've always been trying to lynch you because I think you're mafia.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 14:11 GMT
#1112
I am going to become the highest poster
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 14:11 GMT
#1113
So you'll know I'm town.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 14:11 GMT
#1114
People who post a lot are never scum
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 14:11 GMT
#1115
It's definitely the most alignment indicative action in the game.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 04 2019 14:12 GMT
#1116
Can you not tell how town I am?
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