EPTOn July 03 2019 17:35 Eversince wrote:
I got called off to work. but I'm back now if people want to talk!
I got called off to work. but I'm back now if people want to talk!
Just read the last two pages.
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On July 03 2019 17:49 Eversince wrote: No actually Grack can wait I still think what Ewya did is so scummy, This needs dealt with first. Does mafia eversince ever refuse to join the only conceivable counterlynch to her? | ||
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@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this. | ||
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Make a post with support and quoted posts. | ||
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I actually think he's pretty townie | ||
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On July 03 2019 17:58 Eversince wrote: Honestly, I can't. I'm at work on a laptop. I can try though! Depends if I have free time! If not I can 100% do it when I get home! ES: Eywa is mafia! Let's lynch him Pandain: Why? ES: Can't talk now! hahahaha What do you think about Jock and I's points on Grack? You only commented on your previously held beliefs regarding him. Did Jock and I make any good points? | ||
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On July 03 2019 18:08 Holyflare wrote: I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto. She's said several times that she might be up for lynching Grack. It would not be suspicious at all for her to vote Grack if she thought it was the only way to not get lynched. But she refused to do this. The fact she refuses to lynch someone who you think "Looks absolutely shit and a free lynch" should strike you as townie, particuarly when it's the only way she could avoid getting lynched. It also doesn't matter if she knows he's town. If she's mafia, she's trying to survive. You still can't justify mafia ES not joining the grack train. | ||
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Why would that matter for mafia ES? What is this reasoning? | ||
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On July 03 2019 16:40 Jockmcplop wrote: I explained above. Eywa would never normally deviate from her (I think its her - sorry if i got this wrong) playstyle no matter what. Now suddenly she is explaining herself fully when ES puts pressure on. That looks mafia to me. I'm also clutching at straws somewhat because although both you and eywa seem mafia to me, I have no other scum reads and at this point neither of you are particularly strong reads right now. I'm hoping something happens today that gives me something better to go on tbh. Everyone else seems willing to just say 'fuck it' and vote for ES because she's the only person anyone has made a proper case on (even though all of the cases against ES are weak imo and all based on stuff that doesn't necessarily make her mafia). I think it's definitely grasping at straws. I get your point though. But I think it's very weak to make those kinds of arguments. Where you with me when I made a huge post in a previous game about how FF was mafia becuase he was posting a lot more than in his mafia games? Previously FF always had extremely short posts, and then in this game he was making long analyses. He ended up being town. You're basically trying to make a meta read based on one post. I don't think it's very strong. | ||
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She's not defending Grack and saying he's town. She's just saying his play is NAI. So your argument that she wouldn't want to lynch a town read is wrong because she hasn't town read him. Also think about this HF: If Grack turns out to be town, I'm sure you agree it would be crazy stupid for ES to not vote to lynch him. Possible, but unlikely. So we should lynch Grack first because that will help us with ES. | ||
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1. You're wrong she is giving him a town read. She has said that certain aspects of grack's play has seemed townie, but overall she has constantly repeated that he could be either alignment. 2. We should lynch Grack first, because if Grack is town there's no way ES is mafia. | ||
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On July 03 2019 19:28 Jockmcplop wrote: It constantly impresses me how hf doesn't even need to do anything, people just don't want to lynch him because he's hf. He has given one read and nothing else, no town reads. Could well be mafia tbh. He's not a bad lynch. But I want to hear more from him before thinking about voting him. | ||
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On July 03 2019 20:06 Holyflare wrote: Either you're misreading or just needlessly defending her. If the person themselves said they're defending a person then what do you think they think of their alignment? Hard defending him not to be lynched. Not hard defending him that he's town. Completely different. On July 03 2019 01:18 Eversince wrote: Conclusion: Grack may totes be scum. But his play there is not a reason to think he is a mafia yet. On July 03 2019 00:42 Eversince wrote: @Rayn He doesn't but it could be either m!Grack/t!Grack. I'm saying we lynch most likely mafia over him. Because Grack playstyle make it hard to tell if he's m!Grack yet because his town play looks the same D1. On July 03 2019 00:32 Eversince wrote: Also you sum my Grack points back up yourself. He could be mafia, but he could be t!Grack here and not giving a darn. I don't like to lynch town. On July 03 2019 00:47 Eversince wrote: .......I'm getting annoyed with answering this! It's all over my filter! I think Grack could play his inactive self d1 as either mafia!Grack or town!Grack. I give him the pass today because I know this about him. I would still lynch but I think it's not worth our votes with better options On July 02 2019 16:35 Eversince wrote: Willing but not preferred! (Note: to lynch Grack) I said here that it would be more a policy lynch. | ||
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There was another game earlier this year where Bugs, BC, VE, and I got him lynched because he was extremely tunneled on me and never made posts about anyone else. He ended up being town. | ||
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On July 03 2019 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote: Its the whole picture together that does it for me... 1: hf didn't really seemed to go either way on ES until exactly the moment that ES got 3 votes from other people. Then all of a sudden its 'ES is scum' for bad reasons. I know hf gets tunnelled but usually his cases make sense in some way. In this case, nothing he has said about ES would her mafia. Not really true. His vote was the third one, but he made his opinion clear that he thought ES was mafia back when ES only had one vote. He just ended up voting later. And unfortunately no, he often gets tunneled and refuses to think logically in these scenarios. 2: His case is bad and he knows it, but is sticking with his vote for other reasons I don't think he thinks its bad. I think hes just crazy tunneled. He does this every game unfortunately. 3: That reason is that eywa is playing exactly the same as before, even though there's so much of a difference from before that hf pointed it out and nearly scumread eywa for it. Like I said, its both true that Eywa is playing similar and that Eywa is making strangely coherent points. As in he's playing the same way, but his arguments are better. The whole sequence of events is clearly mafia like. | ||
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