• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:17
CEST 07:17
KST 14:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy6uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event14Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple5SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Lambo Talks: The Future of SC2 and more... uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event
Tourneys
Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
StarCraft player reflex TE scores New season has just come in ladder BW General Discussion BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Bitcoin discussion thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 551 users

[M][N]MiniFeast 1.5 - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 02 2019 16:46 GMT
#302
On July 03 2019 01:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 01:39 Grackaroni wrote:
OK I'm taking off and will come back before deadline.

Top town:
Conversion/Rayn

Lower town:
Jock

ES gets a pass from me day 1 based on tone, and she also played from the fucking bathtub, so you have to give points for effort.

Trfel seems like the most likely mafia to me, but I could also YOLO lynch HF.


Nothing on Pandain?

I could vote him too.

I'd be happy with a vote into Trfel/Pandain/HF/Eywa.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 02 2019 16:47 GMT
#303
On July 03 2019 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 01:39 Grackaroni wrote:
ES gets a pass from me day 1 based on tone, and she also played from the fucking bathtub, so you have to give points for effort. .

do you know that for certain because i was waiting on that, maybe with pictures but it took a lot of time.

The bathtub plays are too creative a thing to make up!

I legitimately forgot that I voted for Trfel in the span of 4 minutes, so that's pretty pathetic.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 02 2019 20:51 GMT
#417
You're fine.

We aren't playing instant majority it's plurality, so nobody dies before the deadline and whoever gets the most votes is lynched. (tie breaker goes to the person first to get to the most votes.)
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 02 2019 20:59 GMT
#423
On July 03 2019 05:58 Eversince wrote:
My god I need to sleep already. worse*

lol what time is it in the Philippines?

5 am?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 02 2019 21:05 GMT
#425
On July 03 2019 02:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2019 02:11 Holyflare wrote:
In no planet am I ever an afk mafia. I think I'm the most try hard mafia player on this site even.

True. Why does she say otherwise as mafia?


Because she doesn't know my meta and has been asked to give a read on me and I have little to no content. She knows I'm town and that I get shot by mafia so she says the truth, that I'm likely to come back and post more if town but then obviously has to arbitrarily fit in the alternative to make it look like she's weighing up my alignment but she got it way wrong. How does she know I'm likely to be shot as town because I'm good at mafia and mafia fear me but not know my mafia meta?

It sounds like she just knows hf = vet = apply generic vet meta.

I would be very careful about calling her out for misapplying meta on you. This is my fourth game with her and she thinks she's the resident Grackaroni expert even though I've played like 25 games with you/Rayn.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 02 2019 21:23 GMT
#432
On July 03 2019 06:21 Eversince wrote:
I was more happy you made that point because it made me feel better about you. But in general your logic is ------> so I don't get it. Then I m!Pand for reasons that don't make sense given Pand. I guess a fault of it being I watch a lot more games here than I play.

i can understand that. I do quite a bit of that too.

I don't think Eywa is mafia either at the moment so I'm a bit lost. I am channeling my inner Tumblewood for this read.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 01:30 GMT
#454
On July 03 2019 08:31 Jockmcplop wrote:
I've skimmed grack's filter trfel and besides wanting to lynch you for no apparent reason (that I can see) I don't think it looks like mafia grack.
He didn't exactly townread ES, he just gave her a pass for now if i'm reading it right.

I have absolutely no reason to townread him either yet though.

My only thought is:

Why did you skim my filter?

It's very short. Like 2 minutes worth of reading!!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 01:30 GMT
#455
also:



Top tier vote counts BH.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 02:09 GMT
#457
I'm not drunk you're drunk.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 02:51 GMT
#460
On July 03 2019 11:40 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 11:09 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm not drunk you're drunk.


Grack stop being useless! I've given you so much room this game but everyone wants to kill for that crap. You've really giving me no reason to think your scum yet but I'm die because of 'loose reads'!

Also if you don't start posting super town soon I'm have to re-evaluate myself because you made your yourself obvious town last game. Where is it here?

Yeah I know I am quite the shitter.

I will *drunk* look at Pandain/Trfel.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 03:10 GMT
#465
No worries Eversince. I am giving Pandain the PROBING of a life time.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 03:10 GMT
#466
Sorry I made myself laugh.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 03:21 GMT
#469
On July 03 2019 12:16 Eversince wrote:
Also Grack if you can comment on what you think about him that be nice. Because I serious didn't want to waste this whole game focused on him. But maby he just role scum. Then I have to go figure out who his partner is. Because no one seems to fit but he's mia most of the time.

Pandain?

I finished reading through him. I don't agree with his town read on Trfel because I don't think scum is hesitant to give town reads in this setup like he seems to think.

I don't dislike him pushing me though. I've been admittedly very bland and I haven't contributed anything yet,
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 03:33 GMT
#470
Pandain, you have been PROBED.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 03:56 GMT
#473
Can I ask, what was the post you made that you feel is very good?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 03:58 GMT
#475
On July 03 2019 12:57 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 12:56 Grackaroni wrote:
Can I ask, what was the post you made that you feel is very good?


Feel good about what?

The one regarding Eywa/Conv that you mentioned.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 17:09 GMT
#734
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 03 2019 23:06 Conversion wrote:
Is Pandain mafia, or is he just one of those other players that just shoots off posts without realizing how bad he sounds?

What is this read progression on me when I haven't even posted..

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 15:59 Pandain wrote:
Okay, as long as Eywa's explanation for the above doesn't suck (but if it does, this completely changes)

Strong town reads: Rayn, Eywa
Pretty likely town: Jock

Have no idea why people are town reading Conversion. The guy has done nothing really substantial.

For ES, I'm not sure. Honestly I started skipping alot of her posts. A lot of her reasoning is ..not good, but I don't think either of Rayn's or HF's points are good.

Grack is actually a great town player but he's still done nothing meaningful so there's that.

For me honestly, I want to vote between Conversion, Grack, and Trfel.


Wants to lynch Conversion, Grack, or Trfel

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 16:49 Pandain wrote:
On July 03 2019 16:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 03 2019 15:59 Pandain wrote:

For me honestly, I want to vote between Conversion, Grack, and Trfel.


I haven't properly looked into any of these three yet. I had a slight town read on conversion when made the post on ES (even though I disagreed) because of his meta and the aggressive way he defended himself.

I'll take a closer look at all three today and let you know what I think though. It might take me a while to get this done because I'm at work.


Yeah decent point. I'll say Conv. is null to slightly town. To me he's mostly null.


Well, actually he's null to slightly town. Maybe more null, but still wants to lynch me?

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 20:22 Pandain wrote:
I defend people all the time because they're null at best. Not because I have a strong or even mediocore townread on them.


He justifies defending HF because he's null, but wants to lynch me even if I'm null?

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 22:09 Pandain wrote:
I have extremely strong townreads on Jock, ES, Rayn, and Eywa.

Meaning I think the last two scum are between Conv, Trfell, HF, and Grack.

I actually have a very slight town read on HF too.


Now I'm back to being scummy

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 22:15 Pandain wrote:
Briefly skimming Trfel's last town games and previous two mafia games (albeit admittedly 3-4 years ago), they seem more similar to his town games.

His posts seem genuine and he's making some good points.

I think the last two scum are Conversion and Grack. Maybe HF.


Oh here we go, I'm scum now.

???



It seems to me mostly like he doesn't think you've been townie so far and has you in his lynch pool rather than any strong change of opinion on you, though I don't know yet if he hard-defended HF while null reading HF or not.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 17:20 GMT
#736
On July 03 2019 16:52 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 01:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 03 2019 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well i think grack officially goes to town pool now.

I have no idea why but I'll take it.


Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 12:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 03 2019 12:16 Eversince wrote:
Also Grack if you can comment on what you think about him that be nice. Because I serious didn't want to waste this whole game focused on him. But maby he just role scum. Then I have to go figure out who his partner is. Because no one seems to fit but he's mia most of the time.

Pandain?

I finished reading through him. I don't agree with his town read on Trfel because I don't think scum is hesitant to give town reads in this setup like he seems to think.

I don't dislike him pushing me though. I've been admittedly very bland and I haven't contributed anything yet,


This is what I see in grack's filter.

He likes it when people push him, he likes it when people townread him for no reason.

I can only see mafia motivation when you combine those two.

If he was even trying to find mafia, then he would have something to look into with at least one of these posts. If someone is townreading him for no reason - isn't that possible TMI if he is town?

If not and he's mafia, of course he would say 'I don't dislike him pushing me', that's the easiest thing to say when you've already said you are going to play a low effort game. I don't think we should mistake laziness for honesty in this case.

It didn't strike me as that unusual that Rayn was townreading me because he has a pretty unique way of reading people and I already thought that he was playing pretty townie before that.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 17:24 GMT
#737
On July 03 2019 17:26 Pandain wrote:
Also Blazinghand has posted a lot but mainly only list posts. Anyone else think this is suspicious?

Great post.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 03 2019 17:25 GMT
#738
On July 03 2019 17:50 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 17:49 Eversince wrote:
No actually Grack can wait I still think what Ewya did is so scummy, This needs dealt with first.


Does mafia eversince ever refuse to join the only conceivable counterlynch to her?


Yes.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 175
Creator 38
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 266
ggaemo 240
JulyZerg 150
Snow 79
Aegong 75
sorry 72
Shine 67
ajuk12(nOOB) 16
yabsab 14
Bale 8
[ Show more ]
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever1137
League of Legends
JimRising 693
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K672
m0e_tv235
semphis_17
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King117
Other Games
summit1g8571
shahzam587
C9.Mang0453
WinterStarcraft453
Maynarde130
NeuroSwarm58
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1198
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH349
• practicex 144
• davetesta47
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1105
• Stunt320
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
4h 43m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5h 43m
Replay Cast
18h 43m
LiuLi Cup
1d 5h
BSL Team Wars
1d 13h
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Online Event
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
CSO Contender
2 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Bonyth
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
4 days
RotterdaM Event
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.