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On July 07 2019 01:45 Jockmcplop wrote: Nice deflection, but you can post whenever you want but if you lie about me i'm gonna point it out. Show me a post from D2 where you have made a town case on eversince and where you debunk the arguments that have been posted on her? Hell i dont even fucking know why anyone scumreads Eywa???? | ||
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On July 07 2019 01:51 Jockmcplop wrote: I never said I wanted to read ES to contribute, therefore I never broke my promise to do so. This whole thing is just a lie. I think this is a heavy suggestion towards that: On July 05 2019 16:28 Jockmcplop wrote: From my POV the following are possible mafia teams Rayn/eywa (my number 1 bet) ES/trfel (Ima die of embarrassment if this is it and I push to lynch rayn) trfel/eywa trfel/rayn (unlikely) Either way by sitting and figuring this out we can come up with strong reasons to lynch someone. Here you say you want to sit and figure this out but everything after this post you have posted indicates that you made a decision and then made the reasoning "fit" to your already made conclusion. You simply never ever even for a second show any interest of doing what i underlined and bolded in your post. It's not a lie, everyone can go to Jock's filter and read byu themselves. My read on ES is based off the fact that I can't see mafia motivation in her posts. But that's not a read, that's just a sentence that sounds nice but doesn't have any proof behind it. Its also based off the fact I disagree with your case about the thing said about grack that you interpreted one way and ES says she meant a different way. I couldn't care less how ES expalined her posts. She literally called grack town for the same resons she later on said he can be mafia for. That's never coming from a townie and there is no other explanation for that than she is mafia. Period. The reason I'm townreading her now is because from my POV, as I explained yesterday, the only likely teams are you/eywa or ES/trfel and I find you and eywa to be more likely to be mafia. I don't need to make a town case on ES for that to be true or logical. see here you do this once again. you have decided who is mafia so "therefore ES has to be town". Like ffs, that's not a read, that's just bullshit. What jock is doing here is "because ES is town then the most likely team is rayn+eywa, and that makes ES town". Fucking circular reasoning, why can't anyone see this? | ||
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On July 07 2019 01:55 Trfel wrote: Basically this is why I'm scumreading you. I'm on a phone, as I have been the vast majority of the game (why I didn't say I was voting), so posting is a bit harder/slower. So I'm not going to quote your response but off the top of my head: 1. I looked at every single post that Conversion and Grackaroni made in the time windows for the reads you gave. Maybe I quoted the wrong post but I looked at them all, and I still feel like the substance behind the reads is weak and it feels like TMI to me. I could be wrong, but that's my interpretation of what happened. 2. I quoted a list of posts that suggest that shenanigans could happen, from the main thread. You didn't need to look at the voting thread to know that Conversion was gaining a lot of traction. I knew it, I never looked at the voting thread (phone posting). You never mentioned it or anything during that time, it didn't seem to change or affect your play at all. You've given your explanation, I could be wrong but I have a hard time believing it. 3. Again, you gave your explanation, it kinda makes sense for this one. I'm still a bit surprised you would get as mad as you did if you are town but it's whatever. 1. I simply read people like i do, i do that every single game i have ever played. And every single game someone doesn't understand my reads and i get called mafia for it. Funnily enough i am well aware of that and i don't actually do that as mafia, because i know i might get scumread for it. As mafia i just post what people want to hear. I simply have no reason as mafia to read Grackaroni or Conversion as town. Well maybe conversion yeah because he agreed with what i was thinking at the time and was pushing my top scumread. But that should make me even less mafia because it makes perfect sense, and should make perfect sense to everyone that i townread Conversion. 2. You weren't around and i didn't think it will happen. I have said many times in many games i don't reads the voting thread unless i go to vote, because i expect people to not ninja since i don't think that's fair. I hate voting threads. If you lynch me because i didn't read the voting thread or because you gave no notification about yourself and i should somehow assume you are around i will stop playing this game and never ever play another game. That's regardless of what my affiliation in this game is so even if you think i am mafia you can take that as a fact. Furthermore i did what i think was necessary. I explained why i did say things and why i didn't. That's it, maybe you should stop doign those shennies since the day phase is 48 hours and not 2 minutes. | ||
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On July 04 2019 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: The first two things i think are actually "reads". Other stuff (aside from the last sentence) is just what Conversion has posted. I mean you can't really say "conversion posted this and that, he's mafia", that's not really a read. My problem is the first two things (the read ones) were posted before you EVER mention Conversion in your filter, and youu only do it once, and you call him your strongest town read. So what gives? I could understand last sentence as PoE but since your read on him (based on your filter) was almost confirmed town i don't understand how he flips on your scum side of reads? I understand you can possibly change opinion ans hit when you read more but to me nothing in your filter rn indicates i should believe what you say here. defending conv. On July 04 2019 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: that's not my point. my point is noone says "good at the game" unless the player in consideration is also good as mafia, because people who are only good as town are not good mafia players. stuff on es On July 04 2019 04:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I get that i am probably overreacting, i just hate when someone is for example called out for lying and they say "but i just did it because the sky is red" and people go woaaah must be town, nothing wrong with that, look they gave an EXPLANATION, when i n fact the whole explanation doesn't make any fucking sense at all. stuff on es On July 04 2019 04:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: I could possibly believe her if she didnt try to prove her oiint with something that doesnt exist. Thats why i think she is making shit up on the fly. more stuff on es. I am not sure what i should have done? Mindlessly saying "conversion is town" or "es is mafia" doesn't accomplish anything so i am genuinely confused about what i "should have done"?  | ||
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On July 04 2019 16:15 Trfel wrote: Also, I reread Eversince's filter. I still kinda think she is town but I'm not going to try and save her again, if she is lynched so be it. I accept the possibility that I could be wrong. | ||
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On July 04 2019 21:19 Jockmcplop wrote: Mafia won't shoot me surely. I couldn't have had a dumber day 1 if i'd tried. | ||
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On July 05 2019 15:03 Trfel wrote: Okay, I nominate myself as town leader, as Pandain is taking a break and I'm the only person I know I can trust. As town, we need to vote together. I currently think that Eversince is town, I will re-evaluate but unless I see things very differently I will stick to this until End of Day. However if by then I (and her) are unable to convince you that Eversince is likely town, I will vote her with you to consolidate and make sure we vote together and hope that I am wrong. Sound fair? | ||
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On July 07 2019 17:56 Pandain wrote: Trfel also heavily defended ES from early on Day1. Is this important? They both did. But neither of them shouldn't because the people they thought are mafia flipped town and also almost all of them (especially the mafia night kill) called ES mafia. Idk, did Jock call HF mafia during N1? | ||
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