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On June 25 2019 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well Eywa is mafia most likely too. This is the annoying type of scumplayer (Conversion looks the same usually) who are not considerred scum because they are "too abrasive to be mafia" when in fact nothing they say pretty much makes sense, and just get ignored. Furthermore waayyyyyyy different from last game where she actually tried to play and figure shit out (until we got onto a shitfight).
Pandain my best bet for third scum just for calling Grackaroni mafia (or a lynch) for a claim that doesnt make any sense in his mind from mafia perspective, like basically he wants to lynch a townie and paints it as a "mafia read".
Those are my reads, if i am wrong on something get slam in there, most likely everyone else is town.
Honestly no I find it very hard to believe that Grack as doctor would willingly throw away his role when under no pressure. If there was a huge bunch of tension or fighting and a lot of votes on him, I could see it, but there was none of that. It seems very fake how he did it. So I think he's mafia.
But yes even if he's town he should be lynched. It's such an anti town play that it's an auto policy lynch.
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On June 25 2019 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh yeah Pandain also made a comment on me that should never make any sense to him if what he has said before in the game has made any sense to him so that's why he is mafia too.
This comment is a perfect example of why I don't understand many of your posts. I have no idea what this means
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I don't think rayn is scum actually . I think HFs case is basically "I disagree with how his reasoning supports his conclusion" which is not really a strong argument
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#summonJock
I know he would vote grack
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On June 26 2019 00:43 Eywa- wrote:
I think Grack claiming is weird, but isn't necessarily scummy. Scum have no reason to fake claim doc because they are setting themselves up for a D2-D3 lynch... That being a player not under pressure makes it more likely that it's town.
Players who claim under pressure have a higher chance of flipping scum than players who claim when not under pressure. It's crazy how the scummiest player in the game always tends to claim before getting lynched.
But Grackaroni was not under pressure at all. He had one vote on him (HF). And HF was the only person pushing him.
If you're actually the doctor, is this when you feel compelled to claim? And basically forsake your whole role because it's very likely you will be roleblocked every single round?
And there's plenty of reasons to fake claim doctor. I actually doubt there's any doctor at all (and it wouldn't seem very balanced considering we have a day-1 auto confirmed town who happens to be an active Vet, and yes these sort of things do play into a hosts' mind.)
And if there does happen to be a real doctor who counter claims, that gives mafia a free roleblock +shot on HF. Even for a dead mafia that's not that bad a play.
Conversely, if he gets away with his fake claim, he gets a bunch of town cred.
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I don't think Rayn is non-commital at all. He's hard defending Kelsier, pushed for SL, gave reads on a whole bunch of people.
And what new reads would you have if Rayn flips town?
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On June 26 2019 00:57 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2019 00:53 Pandain wrote:On June 26 2019 00:43 Eywa- wrote:
I think Grack claiming is weird, but isn't necessarily scummy. Scum have no reason to fake claim doc because they are setting themselves up for a D2-D3 lynch... That being a player not under pressure makes it more likely that it's town.
Players who claim under pressure have a higher chance of flipping scum than players who claim when not under pressure. It's crazy how the scummiest player in the game always tends to claim before getting lynched. But Grackaroni was not under pressure at all. He had one vote on him (HF). And HF was the only person pushing him. If you're actually the doctor, is this when you feel compelled to claim? And basically forsake your whole role because it's very likely you will be roleblocked every single round? And there's plenty of reasons to fake claim doctor. I actually doubt there's any doctor at all (and it wouldn't seem very balanced considering we have a day-1 auto confirmed town who happens to be an active Vet, and yes these sort of things do play into a hosts' mind.) And if there does happen to be a real doctor who counter claims, that gives mafia a free roleblock +shot on HF. Even for a dead mafia that's not that bad a play. Conversely, if he gets away with his fake claim, he gets a bunch of town cred. Sure, but if he's not the doctor, we lynch him later in the game and there's no damage done.
But how do you know he's not the doctor? It's likely he wouldn't get shot because mafia can just RB him every turn + that would increase suspicion on him if he's actually town.
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Also Grack is literally the king of shenanigans. This is exactly something he would do
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Fair enough. I have the same opinion but as regarding rayn.
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On June 26 2019 01:14 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone that thinks there's a doctor and a named townie is sorely misinformed.
100% this. It's possible but unlikely.
And especially when the named townie is HF. Hosts do keep these kinds of things in mind for balance - a host would almost never make all HF, Rayn, and me a mafia team for instance.
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Jock I am town reading you so damn much. Well played if scum
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On June 26 2019 01:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Despite the fact that he's been nearly universally read as mafia/null, I'd perfectly well accept that no-one wants to vote for Kiesler if someone could point me at a townie post of his.
He's been here, so its not like he hasn't had the opportunity.
I also find it a bit concerning when at least 4 people scumread a guy and no-one votes for them. It means they can't lose.
I think he's a great vig shot.
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This is always fun having the vote completely up in the air and random because half of the thread hasn't voted with 2 hours to go.
At this rate HF will somehow be lynched.
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rayn the kind of guy to make a goodbye post when the wagon has already left him
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On June 26 2019 04:08 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2019 03:57 Pandain wrote:
rayn the kind of guy to make a goodbye post when the wagon has already left him Or..... He's the other active vet player. If not s!Rayn will probably die tonight. Why even point this out?
We still got 24 hours before he would *possibly* die, and if he's almost about to be lynched tonight good chance he lives another day.
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Eversince I'm still not sure why you think I'm scum. Because I'm not contributing enough? It's day 1, I'm going to say the few reads that I have and not make up BS or wishy washy thoughts I have on other players.
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On June 26 2019 04:19 Trfel wrote:
##vote: Alakaslam
I'm a cop out.
You don't get to do this when the thread is this short.
quickly skim everything you missed and make up your mind.
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@HF if you're going to lynch a random, might as well lynch Kelsier.
At least we know slam will spam up the thread later when he's free. Kelsier will just always be the same and be lynch bait every lynch in future even if town.
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