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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 24 2019 16:22 GMT
#245
I"m actually upgrading Rayn to town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 24 2019 16:50 GMT
#251
On June 25 2019 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 01:22 Grackaroni wrote:
I"m actually upgrading Rayn to town.

is this what you got from looking into shapelog or where did you leave that?

I'm writing about that atm now but it's hard for me to explain.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 24 2019 16:51 GMT
#252
Town read is from reading you not Shapelog though.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 24 2019 16:55 GMT
#254
I'll just start with the easy part.

I feel like this is projecting because Shapelog's own opening reads as overly friendly to me:

On June 24 2019 05:14 Shapelog wrote:
If I'm being more serious though, it feels like your trying to hard to be the ideal townie and that scares me. You seem already trying to be buddy buddy by your attitude. Maybe this is how you play. But to me, it's really suspicious you acting this way off the bat.

This post in particular seems unusual to me.

On June 24 2019 04:44 Shapelog wrote:
I'm cooking so I'm here and there rn.

Eversince this is a no fun zone. What do you think this is? OMGUS.net? I hereby ban all jokes. Hopefully this will help bring to life the game thread and protect my immortal rule.

Speaking of playing together before, I cant remember the last time I played with you kel. Feels honestly forever since I've played.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 24 2019 16:56 GMT
#255
On June 25 2019 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay once you finish your post can you tell me why you said you will be looking into shapelog next and ended up townreading me instead?

I read both of you. I read Shapelog first and then read you to try to understand what you were saying.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 24 2019 17:04 GMT
#260
On June 25 2019 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 01:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 25 2019 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay once you finish your post can you tell me why you said you will be looking into shapelog next and ended up townreading me instead?

I read both of you. I read Shapelog first and then read you to try to understand what you were saying.

I am going to need a clarification on this because i read you read shapelog, then me, you don't know what i am saying but before giving shapelog any read you read me town.

I filtered Shapelog. I had him as a mafia lean. Then I read your filter and liked your push and decided that you believed it so I said in thread that I was upgrading you to town.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 24 2019 17:16 GMT
#266
On June 25 2019 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 02:04 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 25 2019 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 25 2019 01:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 25 2019 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay once you finish your post can you tell me why you said you will be looking into shapelog next and ended up townreading me instead?

I read both of you. I read Shapelog first and then read you to try to understand what you were saying.

I am going to need a clarification on this because i read you read shapelog, then me, you don't know what i am saying but before giving shapelog any read you read me town.

I filtered Shapelog. I had him as a mafia lean. Then I read your filter and liked your push and decided that you believed it so I said in thread that I was upgrading you to town.


fair enough. do you understand it now though?

You think he's giving a shallow read of Trfel as in "Trfel said something inaccurate about Eversince's behavior so he's scum mischaracterizing Eversince" to be able to scum read him rather than understanding Trfel's perspective.

Personally I liked Trfel's aggressive posts when not much is happening in thread. I think they're not well informed but not too likely to come from mafia.

I think what bothers me is that when he talks about Trfel's post on me he seems to view it from the point of view as I do, as in "this is an eager townie reading too far into Grack's post. You don't have enough evidence to make this conclusion yet" and then when Trfel makes a similar post against Eversince it's "this is scum mischaracterizing Eversince's behavior." And also Eversince was Shapelog's scum read to begin with.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 24 2019 19:51 GMT
#282
On June 25 2019 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 03:13 Holyflare wrote:
Oh boy we're in a rayn is mafia game. Buckle down people.

Because?

I'd like an answer to that too.

Don't know why you can't just give your thought process rather than throwing out names and fucking off.

I actually feel quite good about Shapelog being scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 24 2019 22:12 GMT
#285
On June 25 2019 06:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 25 2019 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 25 2019 03:13 Holyflare wrote:
Oh boy we're in a rayn is mafia game. Buckle down people.

Because?

I'd like an answer to that too.

Don't know why you can't just give your thought process rather than throwing out names and fucking off.

I actually feel quite good about Shapelog being scum.


This is incredibly prickly. Why would you like an explanation when:

A) you independently town read rayn
B) you agree with his reads too

??

It's an accurate description of what you've been doing.

Rayn put in some effort to explain his accusation. You've just been throwing shade.

I think you're very likely 0/2 so far on your scum reads and it annoys me that you won't engage in what we've been talking about in thread.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 24 2019 22:47 GMT
#287
On June 25 2019 07:46 Jockmcplop wrote:
Yo hf you gonna try and convince us to lynch rayn or are you just leaving that hanging there for a bit?

sToP BeInG So PrICkly.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 24 2019 22:56 GMT
#290
On June 25 2019 07:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 07:12 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 25 2019 06:59 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2019 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 25 2019 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 25 2019 03:13 Holyflare wrote:
Oh boy we're in a rayn is mafia game. Buckle down people.

Because?

I'd like an answer to that too.

Don't know why you can't just give your thought process rather than throwing out names and fucking off.

I actually feel quite good about Shapelog being scum.


This is incredibly prickly. Why would you like an explanation when:

A) you independently town read rayn
B) you agree with his reads too

??

It's an accurate description of what you've been doing.

Rayn put in some effort to explain his accusation. You've just been throwing shade.

I think you're very likely 0/2 so far on your scum reads and it annoys me that you won't engage in what we've been talking about in thread.


"very likely 0/2"

One of them being you with 0 explanation based on almost nothing at the start of the game and the other rayn with 0 explanation? what????????

Perhaps this is your fault and not mine.

Feel free to vote me for calling you out for being a shitter. That doesn't change the fact.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 00:01 GMT
#296
On June 25 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
I think you're fairly obviously mafia at this point

Bet it sucks I was confirmed of all people lol.

I did have a sense that you being confirmed would be bad for town, yes.

To go full shitter mode, I'm the doctor, and I won't be healing you. Sure does suck that you got confirmed though.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 07:22 GMT
#313
I'm happy with my claim tbh.

If town is dumb enough to kill me during the day rather than wait for me to get killed in the night than that's all the better.

Being confirmed town through a mod-announcement doesn't prevent you from being a shitter. And I'm pretty obviously town too so that's all the better.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 07:37 GMT
#314
Feel free to look for my buddies though.

I recommend looking at Shapelog. I could be bussing him.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 08:16 GMT
#316
Meh now I have to awkwardly backtrack because you made a good post.

This part is especially true:
"Great Kelsier post? No, not really, it's wishy washy and says absolutely nothing about BOTH eversince and Trfel. Classically mafia post"

And I don't think there's reason to think that Kelsier would be more likely to jump on my bandwagon than attack a bandwagoner.

As for the Rayn Shapelog case, I'd note that there were 2-3 people that said they agree with Rayn's Shapelog case when it was pretty incomprehensible. I think those people are more likely mafia than Rayn who probably believes the case that he's pushing. Plus I'm annoyed because I think I gave much clearer points for why Shapelog could be mafia.

You're still a baddie for voting me though when I'm obv town -- even in the case where Rayn is mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 08:21 GMT
#318
On June 25 2019 17:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
What makes you obvtown grack?

My attitude this game would never happen as mafia.

I kind of have a history of throwing fits as blue though LOL.

Plus I've made good attempts at engaging people and solving the game, especially with Rayn.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 08:44 GMT
#321
On June 25 2019 17:31 Holyflare wrote:
If shapelog is mafia, it's with kelsier.

Based off the "so long since we've played together Kels!" post?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 08:54 GMT
#325
On June 25 2019 17:31 Holyflare wrote:
If shapelog is mafia, it's with kelsier.

In the case where Shapelog is not mafia, I see a very plausible team of Pandain/Eversince/Eywa.

I think Pandain has been under-contributing from his town meta so far but I have no idea why Eversince is scum reading him in this post.

On June 25 2019 11:02 Eversince wrote:
Ok, Trtfel is ok! Shapelog case by Rayn seemed good to me. Holyflare being disconnected is completely annoying but he is confirmed. Grack is usual. Pandain is best lynch 2019. Jock is ok.

I still think Kels feels off. Better but off. Slam has been totes useless. Ewya still is fishy to me.

So Pandain, Shapelog, Ewya. Thought?

She(?) also seems to think that being afk is standard behavior for Pandain, and me (though I really haven't played with her very much and don't think I'm an overly afk player.), so why is Pandain best lynch 2019?
On June 24 2019 17:21 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2019 17:17 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 24 2019 17:12 Eversince wrote:
Whats the rest of your reads?


I don't have any really.
No-one looks particuarly town to me. Maybe trfel. Every read I have seen so far is a shot in the dark so I'm not going to join in on that action because its pointless right now.
Eywa's quicklynch post makes very little sense tbh, but not in a way that makes me think scum. I'd like some kind of explanation though because that's just weird.


Eywa's quicklynch makes no sense to me.. Grack is usual mia, Pandain is usual mia, Rayn knows me far to well. What about everyone else?

We have 1 day left. I will get off and sleep. We need to think about a lynch.

Then I noticed this post:

On June 24 2019 10:40 Eywa- wrote:
I'm good with quicklynching Pandain or Eversince

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 08:54 GMT
#326
On June 25 2019 17:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 17:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Meh now I have to awkwardly backtrack because you made a good post.

This part is especially true:
"Great Kelsier post? No, not really, it's wishy washy and says absolutely nothing about BOTH eversince and Trfel. Classically mafia post"

And I don't think there's reason to think that Kelsier would be more likely to jump on my bandwagon than attack a bandwagoner.

As for the Rayn Shapelog case, I'd note that there were 2-3 people that said they agree with Rayn's Shapelog case when it was pretty incomprehensible. I think those people are more likely mafia than Rayn who probably believes the case that he's pushing. Plus I'm annoyed because I think I gave much clearer points for why Shapelog could be mafia.

You're still a baddie for voting me though when I'm obv town -- even in the case where Rayn is mafia.


Who are these people?

Eversince is one in the post I just quoted.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 08:57 GMT
#327
On June 25 2019 09:59 Trfel wrote:
Nooo my post got deleted Short version:

I am an idiot for buying a plane ticket for the wrong day and having to pay to move it, but I can play mafia while waiting for the flight.
I liked the stuff on Shapelog.
I don't really think raynpelikoneet is mafia because his play feels too calm to be mafia, though I concede he's better than I am so he could trick me.

Trfel I'm not sure if he liked what Rayn said or what I said.
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