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On May 21 2019 23:30 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:27 disformation wrote:On May 21 2019 23:03 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2019 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trusting Koshi's read on disformation because Koshi is probably the best of active players in reading him and i think Koshi is town. I tried soooo hard to bus disfo last game i was scum with him with also Koshi yelling disfo is scum but i didn't even then succeed in killing him (not that i really wanted to lol). Well. He is my shennanie target atm. dl is like 5am for me so if you are into getting up early your chances arent bad. meanwhile looking at jock. he asks a metric fuckton of questions. like ball park of half of his filter. some of them lead somewhere though not always related to the question: e.g: On May 20 2019 16:22 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:21 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 16:18 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:18 Holyflare wrote:
Jock I suggest moving away from rayn and forming opinions on other people. Rayn is a big time sink and the only thing that will change his mind is by playing townie. Yeah my previous post says as much. I'm finished with that unless he keeps on at me about it. What do you think of conversion? I think your post has a lot of merit, it's flaky and apologetic when it doesn't need to be. Like it a lot better than whatever people are posting about ruxxar because I don't think ruxxar looks too bad tbh. I don't like how bugs has essentially discounted iGrok and solely talked about VE's points and not mine and then given iGrok an afk excuse pass. iGrok is a good lynch imo. He hasn't posted enough for me to say that he's scum really but his lack of self defense is concerning and I'm always up for lynching a lurker on day 1. or: On May 20 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 17:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 17:08 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 17:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
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So it doesn't get lost. Anyone wanna talk about lynching a lurker? given that the lurkers in this game more or less (so far) are like Disinformation Ruxxar Calix and like Conversion are in that list more or less im semi fine with that? But only because most of the people lurking thus far are people i already want to hang. If you are so unsure with the current thread trend and who to lynch id almost say rng it instead. Do'nt forget iGrock. But yeah, that list of lurkers looks like SOLID pickings for a lynch. In fact, why would you leave iGrock out of that list? Did you forget, because I mentioned him the post that I quoted. Tbh Igrock gets a pass atm, along with artanis as they are names i recognize and would rather be sure on alignment before killing them. not saying they aren't mafia, just saying they both more or less look inactive as fuck and not like lurkers. Plus I far more prefer offing people in the list I listed. All of them scream scum for a reason here or there, and all of it after the stupidity of the first few pages / shit with rayn. Hmmm.... Not a fan of this reasoning but I'll let it pass for now. Can you explain to me why recongizable names (I assume that means people you have played with a few times before) means you don't want to vote for them based of inactivity? mainly due to it backfiring on me in the past. Offing a recognizable name before they have an opportunity to damn themselves can backfire royally and fuck the town out of a resource. Now, if I thought they had said something that screams super scum to me id be down, but as of yet I don't have anything besides a null read. Why off a null read when I have mafia reads? This makes sense. You think iGrock would be a good resource to keep if town? I have never played with him before so have no idea. I'm really up for a conversion lynch here. He isn't posting much but what he has posted is very scum. Like super scum. ##vote: conversion honestly his filter is also really hard to read, cause its hard to tell if noone answered a question or if he just dropped the line. doesnt seem to be concerned in cases where he doesnt get an answer though? follow up: Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 20:48 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 21 2019 20:44 Conversion wrote:On May 21 2019 20:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 21 2019 20:24 Conversion wrote:On May 21 2019 20:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The jock read has been explained in thread, however it was by bugs.
The entire premise of me asking people (specifically the ones I was asking) was to try and recreate something we made last game that was well, helpful even if we were wrong at points.
Also as for you? You have provided nothing of value to the thread, maintain activity levels, but basically don't do anything to help further a lynch / find possible mafia. This is clearly how I see your posting. Others clearly could see it differently.
Also how about for a change you actually post who you think is mafia? Hell theres enough of a thread. If you could lynch 1 of 3 people right now, list them.
Also Conversion I ask you the same question. Who are your top 3 scum reads and why I’m spending a good chunk of this day getting a better hold of who I trust and who I don’t since I spent the last 48hrs tunneling andapparently that makes me mafia. also heading into work now brb Hey everyone, Keep a note at this reply please. Its not fully damning but it not looking good. Hey Disinformation. Your turn. Name your top 3 scum reads and why how is that not good? are you serious. my entire filter is calling disfo scum, and the MAJORITY of people in the game are telling me (some which I believe to be town atm) that I’m wrong and to look elsewhere. you have Jock on your list crying about how I’m scum and being flimsy as fuck and not really looking into anything else yet you don’t question him/find him suspicious? this game man.. People I have 'looked into' during this game: You Hf a little bit VE a little bit then backed off Rayn more than once I've spent most of the first couple of rl days trying to get reads by asking questions and gathering information.. Tell me that's wrong... I dare you. Stop this OMGUS please it doesn't help anything. says it pretty much himself in that post. not sure of his town reads though?
I did post town reads.
Amusingly not even I want to look through my filter.
WBG was my main townread.
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This is fucked up
Not a single person agreed fully with rayn's case on me yet VE is trying to engineer a wagon on the back of the fact that rayn won't change his vote...
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On May 21 2019 23:36 disformation wrote:to the danger zone?
Last time you said this i almost scumread you for it haha.
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On May 21 2019 23:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
omg it really is rayn/Koshi and I've just been taken for a ride this entire time.
Yes
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On May 21 2019 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Jock if you ever want me to consider you town you need to explain what you meant with the red parts in these posts thoroughly. Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
##vote: rayn
I just don't like anything you posted so far.
Lets go over your reasoning for posting that first message.
You thought it would be fun, rather than posting something relevant that makes sense, to post your role but write it wrong by copypasting a previous message and then changing the order of the words?
Is that your idea of fun rayn?
IS THIS HOW YOU HAVE FUN???
May I suggest you try dropping acid or something. Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.
He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.
Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM? I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right? Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now.
Yes I will do that now.
The original post you made was where you claimed town vanilla
The reasoning you gave for why doesn't make sense to any reasonable person. Its like walking into a room but instead of saying hello, finding all the magazines in that room, cutting out the letters that spell helpppdfao and then rearranging for everyone so everyone knows you're there.
It doesn't make sense and is stupid.
At that point in the thread nothing else had happened.
I didn't like your stupid reasoning that doesn't make sense. Maybe you do say hello by copy pasting old messages. But given the lack of action at that point in the thread I put the vote on you to see what would happen.
Its not even that it was scummy in particular, but it was the very beginning of the first game and it was weird and i didn't like it.
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EBWOP *first day not first game
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On May 21 2019 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:42 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 21 2019 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Jock if you ever want me to consider you town you need to explain what you meant with the red parts in these posts thoroughly. On May 19 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
##vote: rayn
I just don't like anything you posted so far.
Lets go over your reasoning for posting that first message.
You thought it would be fun, rather than posting something relevant that makes sense, to post your role but write it wrong by copypasting a previous message and then changing the order of the words?
Is that your idea of fun rayn?
IS THIS HOW YOU HAVE FUN???
May I suggest you try dropping acid or something. On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.
He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.
Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM? I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right? Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now. Yes I will do that now. The original post you made was where you claimed town vanilla The reasoning you gave for why doesn't make sense to any reasonable person. Its like walking into a room but instead of saying hello, finding all the magazines in that room, cutting out the letters that spell helpppdfao and then rearranging for everyone so everyone knows you're there. It doesn't make sense and is stupid. At that point in the thread nothing else had happened. I didn't like your stupid reasoning that doesn't make sense. Maybe you do say hello by copy pasting old messages. But given the lack of action at that point in the thread I put the vote on you to see what would happen. Its not even that it was scummy in particular, but it was the very beginning of the first game and it was weird and i didn't like it. then why did you agree with artanis (in that it's not scummy,) just to vote for me RIGHT AFTER when hf came and said "lol you should vote for rayn"?
I just explained that.
It was the beginning of the first day. I wanted a vote out there because voting is the only way i can express myself in the game besides posting. I still think your reasoning in that first part of the game wasn't scummy. It was just stupid and caught my attention so I voted for you.
I am also given to sheep hf at any random point unless he has made himself suspicious to me.
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On May 21 2019 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why are you saying it doesn't make sense? i dont expect you to believe it makes me town but it doesnt make me mafia ever.
DO you think that every single vote in the first 2 hours is a genuine accusation of being mafia?
Did I tell others to vote for you like I have with people I think are scum or want to get lynched? No
I just used my vote to prod you into action and create some content.
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I DIDN"T call you scum have you tried reading my responses or are you stuck in your own dumbass brain????????
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On May 21 2019 23:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
I DIDN"T call you scum have you tried reading my responses or are you stuck in your own dumbass brain???????? so you didn't call me scum but voted for me? good pressure right there.
GO back and read. FFS.
Do you really think that all votes in what is sometimes called the RANDOM VOTING STAGE are genuine accusations of being mafia?
I asked this before and you ignored me.
I can't think why.
None of what I did that accompanied that vote is what I have done when voting for people since (ie trying to convince people that you were scum, trying to get people to vote for you).
That should convince you because its very, very easy to go and check. If it doesn't then you are full on stupid.
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On May 21 2019 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Where do you tell me it's RVS?
Well its the first few minutes of the game, its just common sense that there will be an amount of randomness in any vote.
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On May 21 2019 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i don't believe it's RVS because you went on and on with the vote for terrible reasons (aka "give reads" when i gave reads).
I also changed it as soon as I had a solid read on someone.
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On May 21 2019 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i don't believe it's RVS because you went on and on with the vote for terrible reasons (aka "give reads" when i gave reads). If you are a believer in RVS why haven't you done that in the games you have played here before?
I have only played 3 games and am changing almost everything about how I play in each game (due to failing hard in my other two townie games.) I must have said this more than 20 times already in this game.
I'm getting seriously fucking pissed off with the fact that people expect me to pick one posting style and stick with it for my entire mafia playtime regardless of whether it works.
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OK I have fully explained myself.
I'm not going through this any more.
If you want to lynch me go ahead. When I flip town you can come back and look at these last two pages and how completely unreasonable rayn is being in the face of perfectly normal behaviour.
A vote for my lynch is a vote for your own lynch day 2 rayn.
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On May 22 2019 00:00 Koshi wrote:
Poor jock. Might die twice on d1.
I dnu. But I guess I can also vote him.
Poor tl.net mafia
Everyone complains that its dying and then when someone new turns up and people can't read the meta from 10 years of knowing him they get confused.
I'm sorry if that's another example of me 'shitting on the players' but its really starting to look like this is the case.
I blame kitaman for making me scum in my first game.
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I'm done with this shit.
Seriously.
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On May 22 2019 00:08 Holyflare wrote:Is my post wrong?
The fact that you look at my responses to rayn - which means that you are also looking at rayns posts, and out of the two you decide i am mafia...
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yes, very, very wrong.
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On May 22 2019 00:11 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 00:10 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 22 2019 00:08 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2019 00:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm done with this shit.
Seriously. Is my post wrong? The fact that you look at my responses to rayn - which means that you are also looking at rayns posts, and out of the two you decide i am mafia... . yes, very, very wrong. Explain how it is wrong.
I can't even be bothered.
Maybe you're right in that there was some inconsistency.
Have you ever seen a 10 or so page filter with no inconsistencies in it? If you have you are looking at a mafia filter.
Seriously though this is my last post think what you want vote for whoever you want I find this game far too stressful for it to be even remotely good for me to continue playing it.
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Just so you guys are in no doubt:
I'm trying to play, to learn and to improve all at the same time. I find this difficult and yeah, I'm asking a shit ton of questions. There aren't any newbie games here and I'm completely clueless jsut going off what the guides and mafaiscum wiki say about it.
So yeah, I ask alot of questions. I'm literally asking for help and getting shit all (Except WBG who is quite happy to help) and then being lynched for doing shit wrong.
This isn't something I'd post if i was trying not to be lynched because I'm knowingly invoking my own lack of skill and expereience. I'm gonna go concentrate on chess instead.
Good luck to you all. Even if I'm not lynched I can't be bothered with this shit. I'm too anxious a person. Its bad for my mental health.
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