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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 20:17 GMT
#1804
On May 22 2019 05:02 iGrok wrote:
@HF Rayn when people were initially annoyed, VE for aggroing on me, Me (because I called rayn mafia, when you had done the same less than 6 hours prior), Calix before she started posting much and someone called her on a weak opening summary post, Ruxxar when he went on you, Jock when Jock first started to feel upset and say fuck it, BACK to VE and rayn, and now back to me I guess? You're all over the place and its always when someone looks like a potential D1 wagon.

Seminar is back on, I'll check in a couple hours before the lynch.

Don't be dumb, guys.


So I am mafia because I called the following people mafia when sentiment was building up on them:

Rayn WHO I CREATED THE SENTIMENT AGAINST AND EVERYONE SHEEPED ME LOL.

Off to a great start.

VE I didn't call mafia for going aggro on you. I simply said his case on you had no merit and went on about my day.

You. lol. I called you mafia against sentiment (because everyone defended you AND nobody other than ve voting for you). I don't care if we're on the same target, you voted rayn for a fake case and not for the actual good reasons even though those good reasons already existed.

I never EVER EVER EVER called calix mafia for her bad opening post. Ever.

Ruxxar because he opportunistically went against me, as explained. Didn't fit with a thought process at all.

Jock was a logical inconsistency, as soon as he posted about mental health i backed the fuck away because he obviously became townie. Should I have ignored this inconsistency that he himself even agreed with?

Rest is garbo.

You're definitely mafia. Half of this existed early game when you had absolutely no problem with me even.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 20:20 GMT
#1808
3 days is too bad for mafia team
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 20:22 GMT
#1809
I don't care if bc gets lynched but please look at this igrok post he just made and come to a conclusion on it. He seems to believe i followed sentiment on calling rayn mafia (lol)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 20:32 GMT
#1822
Can anyone seriously piece together "hf only votes and calls people mafia with sentiment" with me attacking rayn or calling igrok mafia for voting rayn? Or pointing out inconsistencies with jock like he says?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 20:59 GMT
#1839
No idea why you even call me mafia repeatedly.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 21:07 GMT
#1844
On May 22 2019 05:30 disformation wrote:
yeah the ruxxar post he is referring to is the good post by ruxxar on bc you can see in art's case on bc.
aight hf imma make a tea and look at the grok post again


Chop chop
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 21:41 GMT
#1855
On May 22 2019 02:09 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck i really want to call iGrok town for that post hahahah ;D
So good.

Which?

Also right now top scum read is HF and calix, followed by arty. least confident is BC/bugs,

Key points on Calix:
Calix
HF / Jock good, rayn bad, wbg probably good
-Honestly really basic post. easy to make if less experienced scum
stop calling me scum for sheeping, I'm gonna keep sheeping because reasons
Its a fucking VE / rayn conspiracy
Total reversal, VE/dis good, conv/rux bad
BC is scummy because he's... drawing attention away from me... by bringing me up when other lurkers are being focused more?
Rux is maybe not scum because he is admitting to having trouble making reads and calix is also
pushes rayn
-#1247 honestly lots of true points about rayn but ones that I see as NAI because my memory of rayn's meta is palmar jr



I'm not sure how any of these points lead to a calix scum read by the way. Entry post is basic - mafia, that's the extent of why she's scummy essentially?

Otherwise it's ve/rayn conspiracy that changes to not really anymore - not scummy

bc point doesn't mean anything?

ruxxar point shows calix changing a read because someone shares a townie mindset with her - not scummy?

agrees with all the rayn points and if he didn't have meta with rayn it would be good??????

conclusion is that this is the most mafia person in the game lol??????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 21:52 GMT
#1868
It's like pulling teeth to lynch a guy that hasn't even posted anything with evidence to back up :D why
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 22:00 GMT
#1878
On May 22 2019 06:56 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 06:52 Holyflare wrote:
It's like pulling teeth to lynch a guy that hasn't even posted anything with evidence to back up :D why

like. i have no idea whats going on and i am not sure if i want to laugh or cry and then i see the vc and think i should prolly cry.

i mean look at that post:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 06:43 iGrok wrote:
Hmm... I didn't actually put together that HF going for ez lynch onto Calix makes it less likely for them both to be mafia. Good catch disinfo.

##unvote calix while processing

"oh right none of my stuff makes sense, let me think about that".
is that really a post scum makes?
and on the other hand its like nearing the end of a 72h cycle and id like to go to bed in 1h and i have 0 clue where the guys head is at...


The problem we've had is that we're struggling to find mafia because every time we talk to each other we appear townie to each other (yeah there's some fighting but the circular argument comes back every time). iGrok on the other hand just exists and has posted ...... wrong things all the time. His initial vote on rayn bypassed all of the actual reasoning to vote rayn (he still doesn't even know what that is apparently!), his return after that long hiatus was literally just a summary. Now, he's gone straight for myself and calix and his points on calix don't make anyone mafia and his points on me had to be forced out of him and he couldn't even make it up correctly!

He's the missing puzzle piece people have been struggling to find.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 22:02 GMT
#1884
On May 22 2019 07:01 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 07:00 Koshi wrote:
iGrok if you get yourself lunched over 100% Calix and 85% mafia BC.... Sad days bro.

Yeah, not really sure what to do about this. I've got to decide if Calix is mafia and HF is dumbtown or vice versa



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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 22:05 GMT
#1889
On May 22 2019 06:43 iGrok wrote:
Hmm... I didn't actually put together that HF going for ez lynch onto Calix makes it less likely for them both to be mafia. Good catch disinfo.

##unvote calix while processing


On May 22 2019 07:01 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 07:00 Koshi wrote:
iGrok if you get yourself lunched over 100% Calix and 85% mafia BC.... Sad days bro.

Yeah, not really sure what to do about this. I've got to decide if Calix is mafia and HF is dumbtown or vice versa


How the fuck do you have to decide about THIS scenario.

Either I went for the easy lynch on Calix YOUR MAFIA READ as mafia or town.

But how does it make me dumb town OR mafia to do this?
How does Calix's alignment make any difference to my alignment in this scenario?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 22:07 GMT
#1894
On May 22 2019 07:05 iGrok wrote:
@HF I never voted for rayn. fake voted him in thread only, when he was making his silly fake role pm play


What am I supposed to say to this? You literally just used you calling rayn mafia and me scum reading you for it as a reason to scum read me:

On May 22 2019 05:02 iGrok wrote:
@HF Rayn when people were initially annoyed, VE for aggroing on me, Me (because I called rayn mafia, when you had done the same less than 6 hours prior), Calix before she started posting much and someone called her on a weak opening summary post, Ruxxar when he went on you, Jock when Jock first started to feel upset and say fuck it, BACK to VE and rayn, and now back to me I guess? You're all over the place and its always when someone looks like a potential D1 wagon.

Seminar is back on, I'll check in a couple hours before the lynch.

Don't be dumb, guys.


So was this a lie used to shovel more shit towards me or did you not even believe your points yourself?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 22:08 GMT
#1898
On May 22 2019 07:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 07:01 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 06:56 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 06:52 Holyflare wrote:
It's like pulling teeth to lynch a guy that hasn't even posted anything with evidence to back up :D why

like. i have no idea whats going on and i am not sure if i want to laugh or cry and then i see the vc and think i should prolly cry.

i mean look at that post:
On May 22 2019 06:43 iGrok wrote:
Hmm... I didn't actually put together that HF going for ez lynch onto Calix makes it less likely for them both to be mafia. Good catch disinfo.

##unvote calix while processing

"oh right none of my stuff makes sense, let me think about that".
is that really a post scum makes?
and on the other hand its like nearing the end of a 72h cycle and id like to go to bed in 1h and i have 0 clue where the guys head is at...


Uh, he kinda HAS to make that post after you literally called him out for it. What else could he say to that?

Note to self.
This looks like mafia talking to convince a townie.


No, it doesn't.

If you're going to be an annoying tit and sit in a corner making a tantrum that somebody is mafia and wah wah over and over again it's best to just make a post explaining it and leave the thread. You're extremely boring and repetitive. It's not a good look for you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 22:11 GMT
#1904
On May 22 2019 07:09 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2019 06:43 iGrok wrote:
Hmm... I didn't actually put together that HF going for ez lynch onto Calix makes it less likely for them both to be mafia. Good catch disinfo.

##unvote calix while processing


On May 22 2019 07:01 iGrok wrote:
On May 22 2019 07:00 Koshi wrote:
iGrok if you get yourself lunched over 100% Calix and 85% mafia BC.... Sad days bro.

Yeah, not really sure what to do about this. I've got to decide if Calix is mafia and HF is dumbtown or vice versa


How the fuck do you have to decide about THIS scenario.

Either I went for the easy lynch on Calix YOUR MAFIA READ as mafia or town.

But how does it make me dumb town OR mafia to do this?
How does Calix's alignment make any difference to my alignment in this scenario?

If you are going for an easy lynch on anyone you can, you are mafia.

If you are mafia, and you try to push an easy lynch on calix, calix is not mafia.

If you legit thought calix was mafia, so you tried to lynch him, you are town.

Are you with me?


Calix is your scum read, arguably the most you've talked about. Why would I be a DUMB TOWN to vote on the person you think is mafia?

You are voting calix now. I am not and really don't think we should be.

Why are our alignments opposite? Surely I did a weak push and now we're both mafia??? This reads as extremely fake, I'm not even pushing calix and I don't really think I've pushed calix strongly all game so this indecision about our alignments reads really forced.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 22:12 GMT
#1906
On May 22 2019 07:10 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 07:08 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2019 07:05 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2019 07:01 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 06:56 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 06:52 Holyflare wrote:
It's like pulling teeth to lynch a guy that hasn't even posted anything with evidence to back up :D why

like. i have no idea whats going on and i am not sure if i want to laugh or cry and then i see the vc and think i should prolly cry.

i mean look at that post:
On May 22 2019 06:43 iGrok wrote:
Hmm... I didn't actually put together that HF going for ez lynch onto Calix makes it less likely for them both to be mafia. Good catch disinfo.

##unvote calix while processing

"oh right none of my stuff makes sense, let me think about that".
is that really a post scum makes?
and on the other hand its like nearing the end of a 72h cycle and id like to go to bed in 1h and i have 0 clue where the guys head is at...


Uh, he kinda HAS to make that post after you literally called him out for it. What else could he say to that?

Note to self.
This looks like mafia talking to convince a townie.


No, it doesn't.

If you're going to be an annoying tit and sit in a corner making a tantrum that somebody is mafia and wah wah over and over again it's best to just make a post explaining it and leave the thread. You're extremely boring and repetitive. It's not a good look for you.

You are mafia


And yet again, no, I'm not.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 22:15 GMT
#1914
On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix

My 6 candidates after D1. Bit afraid for Ruxxar maybe? I hesitated the most there.
And rayn I don't consider till d3.


This list is incredibly shit by the way.

BC is being voted and cased by artanis and disformation, they not likely to be together. Bad additions.

I am and have been campaigning for igrok the entirety of the game, yet we're on a list together.

Calix opened by calling me super town. Either I'm town and she's mafia or we're both town. No mafia sticks their neck out to town read me that early, it's silly. Bad to have us both in a list.

Disfo and artanis look like they're solving the game and disfo especially looks like he's full of indecision.

Calix doesn't look bad at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 22:17 GMT
#1919
On May 22 2019 07:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 07:15 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix

My 6 candidates after D1. Bit afraid for Ruxxar maybe? I hesitated the most there.
And rayn I don't consider till d3.


This list is incredibly shit by the way.

BC is being voted and cased by artanis and disformation, they not likely to be together. Bad additions.

I am and have been campaigning for igrok the entirety of the game, yet we're on a list together.

Calix opened by calling me super town. Either I'm town and she's mafia or we're both town. No mafia sticks their neck out to town read me that early, it's silly. Bad to have us both in a list.

Disfo and artanis look like they're solving the game and disfo especially looks like he's full of indecision.

Calix doesn't look bad at all.

U bad


No, I just have the game sense to realise that this list can't ever be correct. Guess we're on different levels like that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 22:18 GMT
#1921
On May 22 2019 07:17 Calix wrote:
Koshi really needs a vig shot. His posts are literal trash and he's just being distracting. He's not doing ANYTHING helpful right now even though he thinks we're going to mislynch, lol?


I don't think this makes him mafia, just a baddie.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 22:23 GMT
#1925
On May 22 2019 07:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2019 07:17 Calix wrote:
Koshi really needs a vig shot. His posts are literal trash and he's just being distracting. He's not doing ANYTHING helpful right now even though he thinks we're going to mislynch, lol?


I don't think this makes him mafia, just a baddie.

Gieb 6 names for mafia pls. We will see.


Why would I give 6 names?

hf
jock
ve
artanis

---- everyone below here could be mafia but have townie sparkles so don't think are (not ordered)

rayn
disfo
calix
koshi
bc
bugs

------ below the rest but maybe mafia, maybe not

ruxxar
conversion

---- everyone below here could be mafia and likely is

igrok


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 22 2019 06:13 GMT
#2059
On May 22 2019 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
as usual I don't think I have any idea what's going on this game so I'm going to step back for a long while. I can't make heads nor tails of the giant mess that happened around when HF swapped to Jock for his contradiction and that's actually made me question literally all of my townreads because people I thought would look worse look better and people I'd thought look better in some cases look worse.

I felt pretty good about HF and BC but now I'm just confused. someone help.


What the fuck have I done that makes you question those reads??? You're the one who defended and saved igrok who has the shittest logic I've ever seen. He's picked 3 random people and decided one has to be mafia in it for absolutely no reason related to in game posts and then done nothing. I've completely decimated his post on me and disfo even confirmed it and he hasn't even batted an eyelidm
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