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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:07 GMT
#1285
On May 21 2019 20:59 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 20:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
disfo, conversion, BC (especially BC, cause you came in with the intention of cleaning up the thread :D)

you're doing that classic town vs town vs town shitfest thing.

Let's back it up a bit, and come to an agreement that you all disagree with each other, and from this standpoint it looks like you're all arguing about completely pointless things when none of the things any of you are pointing out seem scummy to me.


I would like to do this.

I think we need to start working together more.

I'll start with this:

##Unvote


Right conversion, I still think you're scum but my vote will most likely land elsewhere. I'm fed of being being distracted with you putting me on the defensive while I'm trying to figure out more important shit.

WBG: Can you see why I need to figure out calix/koshi???
Calix has almost exactly the same reads as me and is now trying to get the rayn trayn a running. However, Koshi is insisting that calix is scum and we're all stupid for not already knowing that.

So... I need to know whether calix is scum so I can figure out whether or not to reevaluate absolutely everything so far.

What are you thinking on this? I'm sorry for being fucking useless but I don't even know how to figure this shit out at all... especially while koshi isn't here.



Stop dick-riding Koshi and come up with your OWN thoughts on me.

I'm right here. Go read my filter or whatever and talk to me. It's not rocket science.


Nice.

I actually think one of you/koshi is mafia but can't really tell which.. which is why I'm asking other people for help, like you would in some sort of team game. Bizarre, huh?

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:10 GMT
#1290
Rayn you can fuck off with that you are going down a blind alley. You're deliberately misinterpreting the exact thing you quoted and using it for the basis of a terrible, terrible case that doesn't make sense. This is what everyone has told you about your case and it is, in fact, the truth.

I'm willing to go with WBG here if he says you are a good vote. It doesn't matter at this point whether you are retarded town or even more retarded mafia.
You're going down.

##vote rayn
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:13 GMT
#1293
On May 21 2019 21:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
here's the thing that's making me hesitant though

If we're wrong about one or both of VE we get rid of an asset on D1 and despite this being a game with longer lynch cycles that's potentially a big loss

Like, even if they're both scum together there's guaranteed to be a third person that's scum and I think that third person is probably an easier catch than either of them.

In my opinion the world at this point makes total sense if VE & rayn are scum together, but that's too early for me to make that association for sure. What I'd rather do is try and hit that scum hiding somewhere, which we're pretty much guaranteed to have and we're more likely to hit if we're wrong on one or both of VE/rayn.


You should vote rayn then.
If we would be getting rid of an assett in VE, we wouldn't in rayn.. He has done fuck all useful in this game.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:19 GMT
#1301
On May 21 2019 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another thing is this Calix thing. There is simply no way Calix considers Holyflare town at the point she does. That always makes her mafia, that, and that only. I don't think she can actually consider me mafia aswell at that point but that's more of a minor point. In one of the last games Calix played, if not last, there was a different parity cop check between me and HF and town (Calix included) chose to NOT vote either of us off (lol) in a no-lylo situation. There should never ever be a world where calix should be that confident of her HF read at the point she came to the thread, regardless of what she thinks about my affiliaton.


Do you have anything to say about anything that happened since the first two pages of the game?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:25 GMT
#1309
On May 21 2019 21:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another thing is this Calix thing. There is simply no way Calix considers Holyflare town at the point she does. That always makes her mafia, that, and that only. I don't think she can actually consider me mafia aswell at that point but that's more of a minor point. In one of the last games Calix played, if not last, there was a different parity cop check between me and HF and town (Calix included) chose to NOT vote either of us off (lol) in a no-lylo situation. There should never ever be a world where calix should be that confident of her HF read at the point she came to the thread, regardless of what she thinks about my affiliaton.


Do you have anything to say about anything that happened since the first two pages of the game?

not really i found mafia already.


Life's easy when u just act stupid all the time i suppose.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:27 GMT
#1311
On May 21 2019 21:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another thing is this Calix thing. There is simply no way Calix considers Holyflare town at the point she does. That always makes her mafia, that, and that only. I don't think she can actually consider me mafia aswell at that point but that's more of a minor point. In one of the last games Calix played, if not last, there was a different parity cop check between me and HF and town (Calix included) chose to NOT vote either of us off (lol) in a no-lylo situation. There should never ever be a world where calix should be that confident of her HF read at the point she came to the thread, regardless of what she thinks about my affiliaton.


Do you have anything to say about anything that happened since the first two pages of the game?

not really i found mafia already.


Rayn isn't going to contribute anything more guys he thinks he solved the game already.

Get rid???

Get on the Rayntrayn.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:28 GMT
#1314
On May 21 2019 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another thing is this Calix thing. There is simply no way Calix considers Holyflare town at the point she does. That always makes her mafia, that, and that only. I don't think she can actually consider me mafia aswell at that point but that's more of a minor point. In one of the last games Calix played, if not last, there was a different parity cop check between me and HF and town (Calix included) chose to NOT vote either of us off (lol) in a no-lylo situation. There should never ever be a world where calix should be that confident of her HF read at the point she came to the thread, regardless of what she thinks about my affiliaton.


Do you have anything to say about anything that happened since the first two pages of the game?

not really i found mafia already.


Rayn isn't going to contribute anything more guys he thinks he solved the game already.

Get rid???

Get on the Rayntrayn.


Seriously WBG if you were worried that you'd be getting rid of an assett in rayn here's your definitive answer. He isn't going to give us anything else because he solved the game in his mind in the first two pages.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:37 GMT
#1322
WBG have you thought that maybe he doesn't want to be on one of the big wagons for some reason?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:43 GMT
#1332
On May 21 2019 21:43 Calix wrote:
Rayn has literally done nothing but spew irrelevant things into the thread. Repetitive reads that add nothing new, some bullshit about previous games, insults...he's obviously trying to pollute the thread and stir shit up, not clarify anything.

Thread would be ten times better if he hadn't posted at all, that's how much he is pushing mafia agenda.


YOU WOULD SAY THAT YOURE STUPID AND DUMB
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:45 GMT
#1334
Only joking.

Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.

Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:53 GMT
#1349
On May 21 2019 21:51 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Only joking.

Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.

Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts.


You're the bugs of the rayn lynch trying to ram it down our throats and I don't think I like this version.+ Show Spoiler [stuff that I'm thinking in my he…] +
I think you might have a good chance at being mafia in fact because of this. You seem to put weight into people being mafia way too much on little nuances that shouldn't carry that much weight and you have seemingly inconsistent thought processes on say lynching someone to get a view of someone else.


I find it weird how you ask everyone for help on reading calix but feel this passionate about rayn.


Actually that last point is legit. Because Jock and I have voted with each other on EVERY SINGLE TRAIN.


I explained exactly why this is though.

Koshi threw me for a loop with his insistence that calix is scum -- and given that calix and I have the same reads I was gonna try and be sure about that before I voted but I can't figure her out so I've jsut said fuck it and I'll vote for rayn anyway, He has been deliberately shitting up the thread with every post, is unhelpful and generally acting like a moron.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:54 GMT
#1353
There is scum in koshi/rayn/VE I'm 100% sure of it.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:56 GMT
#1355
On May 21 2019 21:54 Calix wrote:
Okay but why do you care so much about what Koshi thinks? I don't get it.


I have him as either scum or very smart town. He doesn't go with thread sentiment and has strong definite reads. He's worth listening to or lynching imo. I don't get it when WBG says to ignore him.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:57 GMT
#1361
On May 21 2019 21:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Only joking.

Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.

Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts.


You're the bugs of the rayn lynch trying to ram it down our throats and I don't think I like this version.+ Show Spoiler [stuff that I'm thinking in my he…] +
I think you might have a good chance at being mafia in fact because of this. You seem to put weight into people being mafia way too much on little nuances that shouldn't carry that much weight and you have seemingly inconsistent thought processes on say lynching someone to get a view of someone else.


I find it weird how you ask everyone for help on reading calix but feel this passionate about rayn.


do you remember Jock's response to me last game about what he thought scumhunting meant? Probably not...here's a refresher:

On May 01 2019 01:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Suddenly even happier with my decision.


Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net.

First game - mafia - failed to spot it
Second game - town - dead first night
Third game... you get the picture.

I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum.

I'm not mafia by the way.


not helping yourself much here mate. Before I go down that path of lowering expectations/opinions about things, why don't you talk to me about who you actually think we should kill instead of you?

If we can't get that far, brushing aside the newness factor, do you understand BC's stated reason for voting you?

What's your strategy for finding scum?


Yeah he wants to get people talking. I can't think of anything to say in particular though.

My strategy for finding scum at the moment is to see who's acting suspiciously, but there isn't much here to go on to be honest.


On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here.


Out of character compared to when I was mafia?


You gonna ignore my previous post?

You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions:

Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?

Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie?


Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead.

In addition to that, let's see your reads.


I have read incognito's guide. At the moment I'm looking for typical mafia stuff, apologetic posting, if anyone has an agenda or is making alot of posts without contributing, inconsistent weird logic. That stuff is suspicious.

#1 priority as town for me is finding scum.

don't even think about skipping any of the questions:


LOL


On May 01 2019 12:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
BC seems town
He's wrong about me but he's genuinely hunting I think.

FF could be scum. Just turned up to claim town and hasn't said anything at all.

VE is the most blatant town to me so far. His posts are sensible and he's actually contributing.

MZ reads town

Can't read HF

Bugs is interesting. Lots of questions no answers. Probably the most scummy out of everyone, just from the number of questions he's asked people that are irrelevant or pointless.


I don't really have any strong scum reads at the moment.


Seems to me like this isn't really a good indicator for Jock, but could just be me.


I don't find this consistent tbh maybe. He seems to be valuing other people's reads (eg Koshi) to use as an excuse to be unsure of someone he has voted with at every instance.

He just feels a bit off to me.



You have said something like this in every single game I've played so far.

Maybe I just seem that way to you???
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 12:59 GMT
#1366
On May 21 2019 21:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:56 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Only joking.

Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.

Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts.


You're the bugs of the rayn lynch trying to ram it down our throats and I don't think I like this version.+ Show Spoiler [stuff that I'm thinking in my he…] +
I think you might have a good chance at being mafia in fact because of this. You seem to put weight into people being mafia way too much on little nuances that shouldn't carry that much weight and you have seemingly inconsistent thought processes on say lynching someone to get a view of someone else.


I find it weird how you ask everyone for help on reading calix but feel this passionate about rayn.


do you remember Jock's response to me last game about what he thought scumhunting meant? Probably not...here's a refresher:

On May 01 2019 01:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Suddenly even happier with my decision.


Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net.

First game - mafia - failed to spot it
Second game - town - dead first night
Third game... you get the picture.

I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum.

I'm not mafia by the way.


not helping yourself much here mate. Before I go down that path of lowering expectations/opinions about things, why don't you talk to me about who you actually think we should kill instead of you?

If we can't get that far, brushing aside the newness factor, do you understand BC's stated reason for voting you?

What's your strategy for finding scum?


Yeah he wants to get people talking. I can't think of anything to say in particular though.

My strategy for finding scum at the moment is to see who's acting suspiciously, but there isn't much here to go on to be honest.


On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here.


Out of character compared to when I was mafia?


You gonna ignore my previous post?

You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions:

Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?

Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie?


Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead.

In addition to that, let's see your reads.


I have read incognito's guide. At the moment I'm looking for typical mafia stuff, apologetic posting, if anyone has an agenda or is making alot of posts without contributing, inconsistent weird logic. That stuff is suspicious.

#1 priority as town for me is finding scum.

don't even think about skipping any of the questions:


LOL


On May 01 2019 12:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
BC seems town
He's wrong about me but he's genuinely hunting I think.

FF could be scum. Just turned up to claim town and hasn't said anything at all.

VE is the most blatant town to me so far. His posts are sensible and he's actually contributing.

MZ reads town

Can't read HF

Bugs is interesting. Lots of questions no answers. Probably the most scummy out of everyone, just from the number of questions he's asked people that are irrelevant or pointless.


I don't really have any strong scum reads at the moment.


Seems to me like this isn't really a good indicator for Jock, but could just be me.


I don't find this consistent tbh maybe. He seems to be valuing other people's reads (eg Koshi) to use as an excuse to be unsure of someone he has voted with at every instance.

He just feels a bit off to me.


on the bright side if we kill Jock and he flips town we could just kill rayn immediately afterward right?

I'd actually love to see what would happen in that case


Don't you think that maybe... JUST MAYBE


That's why rayn decide to pick on me?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 13:00 GMT
#1369
On May 21 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah you could kill me and then kill Calix then cry after game because jock won.


Are you still basing this on your failed interpretation of an extremely simple 3 line post?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 13:02 GMT
#1372
On May 21 2019 22:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:59 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:56 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Only joking.

Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.

Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts.


You're the bugs of the rayn lynch trying to ram it down our throats and I don't think I like this version.+ Show Spoiler [stuff that I'm thinking in my he…] +
I think you might have a good chance at being mafia in fact because of this. You seem to put weight into people being mafia way too much on little nuances that shouldn't carry that much weight and you have seemingly inconsistent thought processes on say lynching someone to get a view of someone else.


I find it weird how you ask everyone for help on reading calix but feel this passionate about rayn.


do you remember Jock's response to me last game about what he thought scumhunting meant? Probably not...here's a refresher:

On May 01 2019 01:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Suddenly even happier with my decision.


Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net.

First game - mafia - failed to spot it
Second game - town - dead first night
Third game... you get the picture.

I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum.

I'm not mafia by the way.


not helping yourself much here mate. Before I go down that path of lowering expectations/opinions about things, why don't you talk to me about who you actually think we should kill instead of you?

If we can't get that far, brushing aside the newness factor, do you understand BC's stated reason for voting you?

What's your strategy for finding scum?


Yeah he wants to get people talking. I can't think of anything to say in particular though.

My strategy for finding scum at the moment is to see who's acting suspiciously, but there isn't much here to go on to be honest.


On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here.


Out of character compared to when I was mafia?


You gonna ignore my previous post?

You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions:

Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?

Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie?


Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead.

In addition to that, let's see your reads.


I have read incognito's guide. At the moment I'm looking for typical mafia stuff, apologetic posting, if anyone has an agenda or is making alot of posts without contributing, inconsistent weird logic. That stuff is suspicious.

#1 priority as town for me is finding scum.

don't even think about skipping any of the questions:


LOL


On May 01 2019 12:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
BC seems town
He's wrong about me but he's genuinely hunting I think.

FF could be scum. Just turned up to claim town and hasn't said anything at all.

VE is the most blatant town to me so far. His posts are sensible and he's actually contributing.

MZ reads town

Can't read HF

Bugs is interesting. Lots of questions no answers. Probably the most scummy out of everyone, just from the number of questions he's asked people that are irrelevant or pointless.


I don't really have any strong scum reads at the moment.


Seems to me like this isn't really a good indicator for Jock, but could just be me.


I don't find this consistent tbh maybe. He seems to be valuing other people's reads (eg Koshi) to use as an excuse to be unsure of someone he has voted with at every instance.

He just feels a bit off to me.


on the bright side if we kill Jock and he flips town we could just kill rayn immediately afterward right?

I'd actually love to see what would happen in that case


Don't you think that maybe... JUST MAYBE


That's why rayn decide to pick on me?


wait what?

Why would rayn pick on you so that we'd kill him after killing you

that makes no sense whatsoever


No but he would pick on me because I'm obviously town and not gonna get lynched so you'll never find out.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 13:09 GMT
#1378
On May 21 2019 22:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
It actually should be easy, especially if Artanis comes back and gives a showing. But there are a few people I think we can all agree need to go that aren't me.


We won't know until you name 'em
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 13:39 GMT
#1417
On May 21 2019 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE you need to stop doing the thing you did a couple of years ago when people accuse you. Just play please.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


OMG
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
May 21 2019 14:10 GMT
#1450
On May 21 2019 23:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
WBG have you thought that maybe he doesn't want to be on one of the big wagons for some reason?

Stop the stupid shading holy fuck maybe you are mafia.


This is a very weird post to pick on. IT seems like a very sensible question to me.
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