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Where do you tell me it's RVS?
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On May 21 2019 23:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Can'tLynchWon'tLynch
VE
rayn
Bugs
BC
Koshi
Conversion
ruxXar
AwfulWaffle
JockMcFlop
HF
CouldLynchWouldLynch
iGrok
Calix
disformation
Artanis
I'm absolutely null on HF/Jock. He was town before, but after a reread I'm really not sure. He seemed more into actually convincing people to lynch other people last game, even as chaos reigned around him. He's content with the content in this thread. I don't know that it says anything about his alignment. Again, I refuse to try and read it yet. Jock is in a weird place like I said earlier, his effort/tone felt townie to me but now he's in here agitating and what looks like trying to get actives lynched...idk, I'm bumping it down to null.
On the won't lynch side, there are townreads and one or two people that I'm iffy on but am willing to pass for today - ruXxar among them, BC and Bugs both being hard on him warrants a look tomorrow, but frankly I think he's fine for today.
Calix being a lynch is the most dirty thing in my list I think. It goes against everything I believe right now - It's PoE, and I FUCKING HATE THAT, but it is what it is. I pseudo-agree that about half her posts seem contrived - I'm not typically one to niggle formatting but it really does look put on when she posts. Maybe it's the fact that her posts feel like they'd be fine without it, idk. But ya, agree with Koshi that it feels fake and could lynch it.
This constitutes my entire read of the game. I can maybe explain some of it, other of it I'd have to look back and see why I think it. But this is where I'm at currently, in the name of trying to figure out the best lynch today.
Town hero right here.
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On May 21 2019 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Where do you tell me it's RVS?
Well its the first few minutes of the game, its just common sense that there will be an amount of randomness in any vote.
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Also i don't believe it's RVS because you went on and on with the vote for terrible reasons (aka "give reads" when i gave reads).
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On May 21 2019 23:23 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count
Calix (2): RuXxar, Raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Koshi, VisceraEyes
Raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, Wherebugsgo, Jockmcplop, Calix, Calix, Jockmcplop
RuXxar (1): Wherebugsgo, BloodyC0bbler , Disformation, Wherebugsgo
Jockmcplop (1): Raynpelikoneet
iGrok (1): VisceraEyes , Holyflare
Holyflare (1): Conversion , ruxxar
VisceraEyes (1): BloodyC0bbler
Koshi (1): Conversion
Wherebugsgo (0): Artanis[Xp] , VisceraEyes , Koshi
conversion(0): Jockmcplop, Calix
Disformation (0): Conversion, Wherebugsgo
Not voting (3): iGrok, Artanis[Xp], Disformation
Calix is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Wednesday, May 22 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Rayn and Koshi, are your votes pliable at all?
Nope. Maybe disfo. But Calix is mafia.
But disfo will be a lynch within 3 days.
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On May 21 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm willing to go on Jock if Koshi is, then we have a 3 block which is better than the 2 block we have on Calix right now.
Koshi?
I really would dislike to kill jock over Calix and disfo.
He will keep posting over the next days.
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On May 21 2019 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i don't believe it's RVS because you went on and on with the vote for terrible reasons (aka "give reads" when i gave reads).
I also changed it as soon as I had a solid read on someone.
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On May 21 2019 16:58 iGrok wrote:
alright guys its 1am and I have to be up at 5am for another all-day class. I'll be back before the vote, catch up, give my thoughts, and vote. next day cycle won't be like this, class finishes friday.
And I guess I shouldn't really say class, its a programming seminar thats 12 hours/day.
Go catch some scum for me lol. Most of my reads are there.
Some hidden thought counts for future use:
BC:1
WBG:2
HF:2
VE:4
Rux:1
Actually, I'll go ahead and open the rux thought up. Someone should review post #682. I honestly dont even remember what it was and I'm about to pass out, but I made a note to review it.
post #682 isnt even ruxxar? its that post:
On May 20 2019 21:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think today (irl, first 24 hours) would be a lot more productive if everyone operated under the assumption that A) rayn is not lynchable and B) bugs is not lynchable. My reasoning is this: from what I've seen both of them are going to be relatively active during this cycle, and there's a non-zero chance that they're both town. IF they're both town, there's a >50% chance that this thread is completely ruined by the end if this first 24 hours. So in the spirit of getting everyone to look at the game holistically, I'd like it if everyone just IGNORED rayn and bugs today (first 24 hours) and then if we still want to lynch into them then we pull them back into the pool next day.
To that end I'm going to unvote and reread everything. Quite unlikely, but I am going to be so amused if the scumteam is something like VE/WBG/Rayn.
so... "i had a thought on ruxxar, that i dont remember" off something art posted and has nothing to do with rux? uhhh...
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On May 21 2019 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i don't believe it's RVS because you went on and on with the vote for terrible reasons (aka "give reads" when i gave reads).
If you are a believer in RVS why haven't you done that in the games you have played here before?
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On May 21 2019 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:40 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 20 2019 08:24 Conversion wrote:
wtf rayn claimed? was it a joke
disinfo is flaky as hell from what I read and probably mafia
yes yes you should vote for jock. Literally said it was a joke. Like what? i answered for i claimed, disfo is flaky, and mafia
"was rayn's claim a joke?"
"yes"
"you said you fake claimed"
"no I didn't?"
What lol.
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On May 21 2019 23:27 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:03 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2019 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trusting Koshi's read on disformation because Koshi is probably the best of active players in reading him and i think Koshi is town. I tried soooo hard to bus disfo last game i was scum with him with also Koshi yelling disfo is scum but i didn't even then succeed in killing him (not that i really wanted to lol). Well. He is my shennanie target atm. dl is like 5am for me so if you are into getting up early your chances arent bad. meanwhile looking at jock. he asks a metric fuckton of questions. like ball park of half of his filter. some of them lead somewhere though not always related to the question: e.g: Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 16:22 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:21 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 16:18 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:18 Holyflare wrote:
Jock I suggest moving away from rayn and forming opinions on other people. Rayn is a big time sink and the only thing that will change his mind is by playing townie. Yeah my previous post says as much. I'm finished with that unless he keeps on at me about it. What do you think of conversion? I think your post has a lot of merit, it's flaky and apologetic when it doesn't need to be. Like it a lot better than whatever people are posting about ruxxar because I don't think ruxxar looks too bad tbh. I don't like how bugs has essentially discounted iGrok and solely talked about VE's points and not mine and then given iGrok an afk excuse pass. iGrok is a good lynch imo. He hasn't posted enough for me to say that he's scum really but his lack of self defense is concerning and I'm always up for lynching a lurker on day 1. or: Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 17:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 17:08 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 17:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:31 Jockmcplop wrote:
What does everyone think about lynching a lurker or someone that is AFK?
I know people in general on here tend to be against policy lynches like that but in the game I played as mafia the way mafia won was by literally not posting (mostly) for the first few days. Is that the standard mafia meta here?
Because if so, iGrok is a great vote.
Otherwise I wouldn't really vote for him based off what he has posted, just what he hasn't posted. So it doesn't get lost. Anyone wanna talk about lynching a lurker? given that the lurkers in this game more or less (so far) are like Disinformation Ruxxar Calix and like Conversion are in that list more or less im semi fine with that? But only because most of the people lurking thus far are people i already want to hang. If you are so unsure with the current thread trend and who to lynch id almost say rng it instead. Do'nt forget iGrock. But yeah, that list of lurkers looks like SOLID pickings for a lynch. In fact, why would you leave iGrock out of that list? Did you forget, because I mentioned him the post that I quoted. Tbh Igrock gets a pass atm, along with artanis as they are names i recognize and would rather be sure on alignment before killing them. not saying they aren't mafia, just saying they both more or less look inactive as fuck and not like lurkers. Plus I far more prefer offing people in the list I listed. All of them scream scum for a reason here or there, and all of it after the stupidity of the first few pages / shit with rayn. Hmmm.... Not a fan of this reasoning but I'll let it pass for now. Can you explain to me why recongizable names (I assume that means people you have played with a few times before) means you don't want to vote for them based of inactivity? mainly due to it backfiring on me in the past. Offing a recognizable name before they have an opportunity to damn themselves can backfire royally and fuck the town out of a resource. Now, if I thought they had said something that screams super scum to me id be down, but as of yet I don't have anything besides a null read. Why off a null read when I have mafia reads? This makes sense. You think iGrock would be a good resource to keep if town? I have never played with him before so have no idea. I'm really up for a conversion lynch here. He isn't posting much but what he has posted is very scum. Like super scum. ##vote: conversion honestly his filter is also really hard to read, cause its hard to tell if noone answered a question or if he just dropped the line. doesnt seem to be concerned in cases where he doesnt get an answer though?
If this is all true I can actually vote jock. Maybe I should read his filter when I am home.
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On May 21 2019 23:55 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i don't believe it's RVS because you went on and on with the vote for terrible reasons (aka "give reads" when i gave reads). I also changed it as soon as I had a solid read on someone.
mhm after i claimed parity cop.... yeah good reasoning.
for fucks sake do you even believe i should believe this yourself???????????? :D
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On May 21 2019 23:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
omg it really is rayn/Koshi and I've just been taken for a ride this entire time.
You moron.
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On May 21 2019 23:42 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Jock if you ever want me to consider you town you need to explain what you meant with the red parts in these posts thoroughly. On May 19 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
##vote: rayn
I just don't like anything you posted so far.
Lets go over your reasoning for posting that first message.
You thought it would be fun, rather than posting something relevant that makes sense, to post your role but write it wrong by copypasting a previous message and then changing the order of the words?
Is that your idea of fun rayn?
IS THIS HOW YOU HAVE FUN???
May I suggest you try dropping acid or something. On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.
He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.
Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM? I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right? Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now. Yes I will do that now. The original post you made was where you claimed town vanilla The reasoning you gave for why doesn't make sense to any reasonable person. Its like walking into a room but instead of saying hello, finding all the magazines in that room, cutting out the letters that spell helpppdfao and then rearranging for everyone so everyone knows you're there. It doesn't make sense and is stupid. At that point in the thread nothing else had happened. I didn't like your stupid reasoning that doesn't make sense. Maybe you do say hello by copy pasting old messages. But given the lack of action at that point in the thread I put the vote on you to see what would happen. Its not even that it was scummy in particular, but it was the very beginning of the first game and it was weird and i didn't like it.
Oh so you voted him for his claim???
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On May 21 2019 23:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:42 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 21 2019 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Jock if you ever want me to consider you town you need to explain what you meant with the red parts in these posts thoroughly. On May 19 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
##vote: rayn
I just don't like anything you posted so far.
Lets go over your reasoning for posting that first message.
You thought it would be fun, rather than posting something relevant that makes sense, to post your role but write it wrong by copypasting a previous message and then changing the order of the words?
Is that your idea of fun rayn?
IS THIS HOW YOU HAVE FUN???
May I suggest you try dropping acid or something. On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.
He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.
Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM? I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right? Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now. Yes I will do that now. The original post you made was where you claimed town vanilla The reasoning you gave for why doesn't make sense to any reasonable person. Its like walking into a room but instead of saying hello, finding all the magazines in that room, cutting out the letters that spell helpppdfao and then rearranging for everyone so everyone knows you're there. It doesn't make sense and is stupid. At that point in the thread nothing else had happened. I didn't like your stupid reasoning that doesn't make sense. Maybe you do say hello by copy pasting old messages. But given the lack of action at that point in the thread I put the vote on you to see what would happen. Its not even that it was scummy in particular, but it was the very beginning of the first game and it was weird and i didn't like it. Oh so you voted him for his claim???
Why did you say it was for his other posts and not the claim? I'm pretty sure you backed this up afterwards saying it wasn't for the claim too.
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On May 21 2019 23:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 21 2019 23:40 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 20 2019 08:24 Conversion wrote:
wtf rayn claimed? was it a joke
disinfo is flaky as hell from what I read and probably mafia
yes yes you should vote for jock. Literally said it was a joke. Like what? i answered for i claimed, disfo is flaky, and mafia "was rayn's claim a joke?" "yes" "you said you fake claimed" "no I didn't?" What lol.
i claimed - yes
disfo is flaky and probably mafia - yes
you should vote for jock
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On May 21 2019 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i don't believe it's RVS because you went on and on with the vote for terrible reasons (aka "give reads" when i gave reads). If you are a believer in RVS why haven't you done that in the games you have played here before?
I have only played 3 games and am changing almost everything about how I play in each game (due to failing hard in my other two townie games.) I must have said this more than 20 times already in this game.
I'm getting seriously fucking pissed off with the fact that people expect me to pick one posting style and stick with it for my entire mafia playtime regardless of whether it works.
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On May 21 2019 23:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:27 disformation wrote:On May 21 2019 23:03 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2019 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trusting Koshi's read on disformation because Koshi is probably the best of active players in reading him and i think Koshi is town. I tried soooo hard to bus disfo last game i was scum with him with also Koshi yelling disfo is scum but i didn't even then succeed in killing him (not that i really wanted to lol). Well. He is my shennanie target atm. dl is like 5am for me so if you are into getting up early your chances arent bad. meanwhile looking at jock. he asks a metric fuckton of questions. like ball park of half of his filter. some of them lead somewhere though not always related to the question: e.g: On May 20 2019 16:22 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:21 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 16:18 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:18 Holyflare wrote:
Jock I suggest moving away from rayn and forming opinions on other people. Rayn is a big time sink and the only thing that will change his mind is by playing townie. Yeah my previous post says as much. I'm finished with that unless he keeps on at me about it. What do you think of conversion? I think your post has a lot of merit, it's flaky and apologetic when it doesn't need to be. Like it a lot better than whatever people are posting about ruxxar because I don't think ruxxar looks too bad tbh. I don't like how bugs has essentially discounted iGrok and solely talked about VE's points and not mine and then given iGrok an afk excuse pass. iGrok is a good lynch imo. He hasn't posted enough for me to say that he's scum really but his lack of self defense is concerning and I'm always up for lynching a lurker on day 1. or: On May 20 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 17:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 17:08 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 17:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
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So it doesn't get lost. Anyone wanna talk about lynching a lurker? given that the lurkers in this game more or less (so far) are like Disinformation Ruxxar Calix and like Conversion are in that list more or less im semi fine with that? But only because most of the people lurking thus far are people i already want to hang. If you are so unsure with the current thread trend and who to lynch id almost say rng it instead. Do'nt forget iGrock. But yeah, that list of lurkers looks like SOLID pickings for a lynch. In fact, why would you leave iGrock out of that list? Did you forget, because I mentioned him the post that I quoted. Tbh Igrock gets a pass atm, along with artanis as they are names i recognize and would rather be sure on alignment before killing them. not saying they aren't mafia, just saying they both more or less look inactive as fuck and not like lurkers. Plus I far more prefer offing people in the list I listed. All of them scream scum for a reason here or there, and all of it after the stupidity of the first few pages / shit with rayn. Hmmm.... Not a fan of this reasoning but I'll let it pass for now. Can you explain to me why recongizable names (I assume that means people you have played with a few times before) means you don't want to vote for them based of inactivity? mainly due to it backfiring on me in the past. Offing a recognizable name before they have an opportunity to damn themselves can backfire royally and fuck the town out of a resource. Now, if I thought they had said something that screams super scum to me id be down, but as of yet I don't have anything besides a null read. Why off a null read when I have mafia reads? This makes sense. You think iGrock would be a good resource to keep if town? I have never played with him before so have no idea. I'm really up for a conversion lynch here. He isn't posting much but what he has posted is very scum. Like super scum. ##vote: conversion honestly his filter is also really hard to read, cause its hard to tell if noone answered a question or if he just dropped the line. doesnt seem to be concerned in cases where he doesnt get an answer though? If this is all true I can actually vote jock. Maybe I should read his filter when I am home.
thing that confuses me is that jock says that bc is suspicious later in his reads post, but he seems to be quite agreeing with bc in the long quote chain.
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On May 21 2019 23:58 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 21 2019 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i don't believe it's RVS because you went on and on with the vote for terrible reasons (aka "give reads" when i gave reads). If you are a believer in RVS why haven't you done that in the games you have played here before? I have only played 3 games and am changing almost everything about how I play in each game (due to failing hard in my other two townie games.) I must have said this more than 20 times already in this game. I'm getting seriously fucking pissed off with the fact that people expect me to pick one posting style and stick with it for my entire mafia playtime regardless of whether it works. .
I dont care about your posting style, i care about why you say the things you do and they dont make sense to me.
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OK I have fully explained myself.
I'm not going through this any more.
If you want to lynch me go ahead. When I flip town you can come back and look at these last two pages and how completely unreasonable rayn is being in the face of perfectly normal behaviour.
A vote for my lynch is a vote for your own lynch day 2 rayn.
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