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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 21:47 GMT
#899
I am not going to bother reading other people and call alignments. After Calix flips I will think again. Not before. Too much bullshit anyway.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 21:49 GMT
#903
On May 21 2019 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Koshi that Calix read for real? She came at me bro, not many people do that.

Dnu man. I think she is mafia. Really do. Maybe she is not mafia. My vote will be for her. For reasons given.

First post was really not good enough. Way too generic and like ruxxar said fabricated.

I really really dont believe this is town Calix. Town Calix is smarter. Better. More in detail.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 21:56 GMT
#912
On May 21 2019 06:50 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 06:41 Koshi wrote:
I am back to voting Calix. The most grey posts and prudent as fuck.

I am not going to change on that anymore.

She cleaned up her posts today and when I removed my suspicion nothing more came from her. That's not ok.


Final read is that she plays to survive and not to solve the puzzle.



This is the second untruth you've made against me. It's so blatantly untrue I'm not even going to bother refuting it.

I don't understand why iGrok is being talked about more than Conversion. iGrok is literally a policy lynch. Nothing else. Why not have him as a backup while voting for actual scum-reads? Then if the scum-read acts townie then we have something to fall back on as a D1 option and we don't lose anything regardless of iGrok's alignment.

It was not enough Calix.

I dont believe your first post.
I dont believe you read the thread and tinfoil both rayn and ve mafia.

I dont believe your second readpost. I dont like you townread VE there after reading his filter and not by reading the thread. The entire thing reads like you did it to safely backpaddel on the tinfoil.
I dont believe the townread on disformation there. Like come on... what is that.


I simply truly believe you are the best lynch for now. And 48 hous is long enough. No more time to make upsies.

I will read your filter again after your flip.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 21:59 GMT
#913
Also. I just dont understand why the thread jumped over you to Ruxxar. It's the most dirty thing I felt in this thread.

I dont understand it.

Not your fault if you are town though. It's just so fucking weird.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 22:00 GMT
#915
Ruxxar opener was way better than yours. And people jump to him without calling you town. While thread sentiment was there calling you mafia. Weird weird weird.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 22:01 GMT
#917
On May 21 2019 07:00 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 06:56 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2019 06:50 Calix wrote:
On May 21 2019 06:41 Koshi wrote:
I am back to voting Calix. The most grey posts and prudent as fuck.

I am not going to change on that anymore.

She cleaned up her posts today and when I removed my suspicion nothing more came from her. That's not ok.


Final read is that she plays to survive and not to solve the puzzle.



This is the second untruth you've made against me. It's so blatantly untrue I'm not even going to bother refuting it.

I don't understand why iGrok is being talked about more than Conversion. iGrok is literally a policy lynch. Nothing else. Why not have him as a backup while voting for actual scum-reads? Then if the scum-read acts townie then we have something to fall back on as a D1 option and we don't lose anything regardless of iGrok's alignment.

It was not enough Calix.

I dont believe your first post.
I dont believe you read the thread and tinfoil both rayn and ve mafia.

I dont believe your second readpost. I dont like you townread VE there after reading his filter and not by reading the thread. The entire thing reads like you did it to safely backpaddel on the tinfoil.
I dont believe the townread on disformation there. Like come on... what is that.


I simply truly believe you are the best lynch for now. And 48 hous is long enough. No more time to make upsies.

I will read your filter again after your flip.


Oh? You 'don't believe' my posts? What a stellar argument that doesn't require any analysis whatsoever.

This post says nothing and shows no thought. I don't think you believe I'm mafia at all.

That's fine. Vote me then.
Because I am either mafia or a town believing.
No middle ground.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 22:16 GMT
#919
1 more thing.

The 3 people on ruxxar. I dont trust any of you. Biggest offender is bc who was active in the thread and called 1 or maybe 2 mafia between Calix and Ruxxar. And voted Ruxxar over Calix. Why bc? Why 1 mafia at least. I still dont get it.

WBG his thread police was also pure shit. Felt dirty as well.

Disfo idk. Just not a townread.


Maybe there is 1/2 mafia there and mafia set up calix/ruxxar tvt wagons.

Maybe.

If you bleed green in the next 24 hours I might vote between those 3. Otherwise I am happy with this.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 22:17 GMT
#920
On May 21 2019 07:16 disformation wrote:
im confused by whats going on tbh.
yall sound super fucking unmotivated.
wish i had more time to sort this shit out, but its getting late already again.
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
I'll read ruxxar. His posts strike me as the most gap filler at the moment.

didnt see any conclusion follow up on that btw

Game is hard.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 22:18 GMT
#921
On May 21 2019 07:16 Koshi wrote:
1 more thing.

The 3 people on ruxxar. I dont trust any of you. Biggest offender is bc who was active in the thread and called 1 or maybe 2 mafia between Calix and Ruxxar. And voted Ruxxar over Calix. Why bc? Why 1 mafia at least. I still dont get it.

WBG his thread police was also pure shit. Felt dirty as well.

Disfo idk. Just not a townread.


Maybe there is 1/2 mafia there and mafia set up calix/ruxxar tvt wagons.

Maybe.

If you bleed green in the next 24 hours I might vote between those 3. Otherwise I am happy with this.

Last part is to Calix again.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2019 06:31 GMT
#1002
On page 48 I think wbg is town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2019 06:32 GMT
#1003
On May 21 2019 10:58 Conversion wrote:
it also feels soo bad when a player only responds to a case without ever addressing any of the other reasons why I scum read him. that case alone isn't why i scum read disfo-- it's his inaction and general laziness and people are OK with him chilling out, but aren't with others. I've asked him like minimum two times now about what his thoughts were and who he wants to lynch, and he's just ducked it until he could nitpick my case and ignore everything else I posted thus far

im so confused

I am with you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2019 06:35 GMT
#1005
On May 21 2019 11:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi does disformation look townie?

No. I am waiting to see townie but nope.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2019 06:35 GMT
#1006
On May 21 2019 11:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 11:30 ruXxar wrote:
Bugs sounding like a broken record and repeating yourself ad nauseam doesnt make the genie pop out of bottle and make your wish of me being mafia come true.

It does however make me think youre just a dumb town tunneling. Unless youre scum buddy with calix trying to deflect his lynch(which i find unlikely after your call out post), youre just stuck in the typical town ego trap of mafia read confirmation bias. Your ego wont allow you to back down from this lynch now that youve put so much into it.
I see no point why you as mafia would keep pushing me at this point.
Thats fine, i get it, ive been there. Ill just ignore you from now on as youre very clearly too deep in the hole to think rationally any longer.

I do want to bring attention to the huge momentum swing we’ve had in activity from certain players.
The beginning of the game was a big shitshow dominated by the presence of rayn and hf. Both of which have gone either completely silent(rayn) or currently do not give a shit(hf)

Rayn really outed himself in a dumb way that i dont think mafia would do. He took a what i would consider big gamble by goung full retard. He was on the chopping block for a while but made it out alive. Hes very likely town at this point.

Hf on the other hand, is currently playing a masterful scum game. Hes controlling his thread presence well, but has basically taken no hard scum stances on anyone. Hes wobbling and flaky in his reads and he refuses to take a stance on the main wagons by either defending or pushing them (calix and me).
Lately he seems very content with where the thread is heading and is very indifferent to the outcome of this lynch, despite claiming that i was not scum earlier and refusing to make up a fresh opinion.
I see no real motivation behind his actions besides his content in letting this lynch play out.
HF reeks of scum and is almost certain to flip mafia at this point, summing up the development of his thread interaction, lack of real motivation and indifference to the current situation.

Tldr:

Bugs is dumbo town.
Rayn is town.
HF is mafia.

##vote holyflare


I respect that this is a pretty bold move, and you're probably going to get a lot of town reads for this post. This post is about to seed a lot of problems and basically derails whatever momentum your case was getting. Bravo.

I don't get why in a million years you would ever do this as a townie though. Like literally no one is going to lynch HF with you today, and everything you've mentioned here requires some serious twisted logic to ignore a lot of reasonable evidence that HF is town, elements of which YOU YOURSELF POINTED OUT EARLIER IN THE GAME. Not only did you throw away your vote, you basically ensured no one is going to listen to you at all for the rest of the game.

like what happened to Calix vs Conversion? That's just dropped off a cliff now? What happened to this:

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 09:38 ruXxar wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.

Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)

Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation

Null
Everyone else

where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.-


Anyone else interested that he wonders where my jock read is but doesn't give a fuck that I put him as mafia ?


I think that's more a townie mindset? He's not concerned about what your read of him is (something mafia are normally hyper aware of) and is more concerned where you put a figure that people are talking about (Jock). Stuff like that, even if little, leads me to think disfo isn't that bad looking. At least for now, which is extremely superficially atm.


just want to put in my filter that this is a super townie post by hf.


and this:

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.


???

it seems like you're "progressing your reads" just because some people complained that you weren't doing that and now you're just flailing

Wbg you are town but just bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2019 06:38 GMT
#1008
On May 21 2019 14:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
At the same time, and although I said Ruxxar's main read on hf doesn't make sense, I'm going back and looking at hf now and ehhhhh
Normally he has tried to make a case on someone by now.

I take that criticism back ruxxar.

I still think your post is a bit scummy but you have a point on hf.

He hasn't done anything. He's voting for the most afk of afkers which is literally the opposite of what he normally does. He argued with rayn on my behalf alot and that really is the most active he's been in the thread. Since then he has got nothing done except give a bunch of town reads and then say that maybe he was wrong about them.

I'm confused.

Is everyone scum except me?

So far - the people I would townread are:

Artanis (just because I haven't seen anything scummy from him)
WBG (is playing like town WBG - this changed from the first couple of hours but I was reading too much into a simple mistake)


Scum are:

Conversion still hasn't convinced me to change my vote. Being angry about being voted for is NAI. Trying to make me stop talking about the fact that he said he hasn't played when he has. Repeatedly says 'fuck you it was because i was fired.' This is bad. All he needed to say was that he replaced out. Its like he REALLY doesn't want me to talk about it.

ALSO HE TUNNELS DISFO BUT HAS DONE NOTHING ELSE
NOTHING

One single tunnel in a game could easily be fake.

Conversion what are you thinking about others in the thread??? (other than disfo)

You said you have 24 hours to convince us you're town but since then you've done absolutely nothing that would convince anyone you are town.


HF (scumlean) - Ruxxar's case is interesting. You are normally leading the thread or getting involved with trying to get people onto a wagon. You aren't doing what you normally do as town. I think every game I've played with you you've been blue - and in each one you were one of the main presences in the thread - at least trying hard to get stuff done. You seem to be reacting to other people's reads alot more than you are making your own.
Can you explain this for me.


This game is confusing as all hell.
I don't get it.
I don't like Koshi, don't like disfo very much either, BC is suspicious and they can't all be mafia FFS. I'm leaving these guys as null for now with VE - who claims to be obvtown but I don't see it yet.


Conversion is not mafia.
You dont trust me obvioisly.
But he is not mafia.

Being tunneled is not mafia. He just believes disfo is mafia. Truly believes it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2019 06:38 GMT
#1009
On May 21 2019 15:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 15:35 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2019 11:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi does disformation look townie?

No. I am waiting to see townie but nope.

Okay if you say so then hes probably mafia.

Lol
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2019 06:47 GMT
#1015
I believe Conversion is town.
I believe Ruxxar is either good at playing mafia or town. My only remark is that he picks his moments to posts and not much more.

Still think Calix is mafia.
Think either bc or disfo is mafia with her because it fits patterns.

Something there.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2019 06:49 GMT
#1016
On May 21 2019 15:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 15:35 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2019 11:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 11:30 ruXxar wrote:
Bugs sounding like a broken record and repeating yourself ad nauseam doesnt make the genie pop out of bottle and make your wish of me being mafia come true.

It does however make me think youre just a dumb town tunneling. Unless youre scum buddy with calix trying to deflect his lynch(which i find unlikely after your call out post), youre just stuck in the typical town ego trap of mafia read confirmation bias. Your ego wont allow you to back down from this lynch now that youve put so much into it.
I see no point why you as mafia would keep pushing me at this point.
Thats fine, i get it, ive been there. Ill just ignore you from now on as youre very clearly too deep in the hole to think rationally any longer.

I do want to bring attention to the huge momentum swing we’ve had in activity from certain players.
The beginning of the game was a big shitshow dominated by the presence of rayn and hf. Both of which have gone either completely silent(rayn) or currently do not give a shit(hf)

Rayn really outed himself in a dumb way that i dont think mafia would do. He took a what i would consider big gamble by goung full retard. He was on the chopping block for a while but made it out alive. Hes very likely town at this point.

Hf on the other hand, is currently playing a masterful scum game. Hes controlling his thread presence well, but has basically taken no hard scum stances on anyone. Hes wobbling and flaky in his reads and he refuses to take a stance on the main wagons by either defending or pushing them (calix and me).
Lately he seems very content with where the thread is heading and is very indifferent to the outcome of this lynch, despite claiming that i was not scum earlier and refusing to make up a fresh opinion.
I see no real motivation behind his actions besides his content in letting this lynch play out.
HF reeks of scum and is almost certain to flip mafia at this point, summing up the development of his thread interaction, lack of real motivation and indifference to the current situation.

Tldr:

Bugs is dumbo town.
Rayn is town.
HF is mafia.

##vote holyflare


I respect that this is a pretty bold move, and you're probably going to get a lot of town reads for this post. This post is about to seed a lot of problems and basically derails whatever momentum your case was getting. Bravo.

I don't get why in a million years you would ever do this as a townie though. Like literally no one is going to lynch HF with you today, and everything you've mentioned here requires some serious twisted logic to ignore a lot of reasonable evidence that HF is town, elements of which YOU YOURSELF POINTED OUT EARLIER IN THE GAME. Not only did you throw away your vote, you basically ensured no one is going to listen to you at all for the rest of the game.

like what happened to Calix vs Conversion? That's just dropped off a cliff now? What happened to this:

On May 20 2019 09:38 ruXxar wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.

Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)

Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation

Null
Everyone else

where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.-


Anyone else interested that he wonders where my jock read is but doesn't give a fuck that I put him as mafia ?


I think that's more a townie mindset? He's not concerned about what your read of him is (something mafia are normally hyper aware of) and is more concerned where you put a figure that people are talking about (Jock). Stuff like that, even if little, leads me to think disfo isn't that bad looking. At least for now, which is extremely superficially atm.


just want to put in my filter that this is a super townie post by hf.


and this:

On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.


???

it seems like you're "progressing your reads" just because some people complained that you weren't doing that and now you're just flailing

Wbg you are town but just bad.


Yeah, true.

Why don’t we kill disfo then? I’m the only one it seems who thinks he might be town and I’m not even sure of that. I’m not going to get ruxxar killed at this point, I’m too lazy to try hard and tunnel further especially when I’ll just exhaust myself arguing about it.

##vote disformation

You think ruxxar is mafia and I think mafia is abusing that read to push it into the thread.

Or Ruxxar is mafia. But that I dont believe.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2019 06:52 GMT
#1018
Good example how sentiment is against ruxxar is what jock did.

Said ruxxar is mafia and what he says is fake.
Reads hf filter.
Agrees with Ruxxar.


Only possibke if thread sentiment is againdt you.

Doesnt make ruxxar town obviously.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2019 06:54 GMT
#1019
On May 21 2019 15:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
If mafia were abusing me reading a town ruxxar as mafia why did only BC sheep me?

I might be bad but I literally don’t get that one. Up until what iGrok just posted there was very little indication anyone would vote ruxxar besides BC

Disfo also voted ruxxar. Ruxxar was on 3.

The problem I have is that Calix was almost ignored over Ruxxar. BC his post that claimed there was at least 1 mafia in ruxxar/calix still sits wrong.

Maybe I should lynch bc 😱
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2019 06:57 GMT
#1022
Fine.

Pls read page 2 of bloodycobbler.

How he reacts on Calix opening post.
How he reacts on Ruxxar opening post. (Much milder)

You understand how he then reads ruxxar mafia over calix?
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