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On May 20 2019 17:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 17:04 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 17:01 Holyflare wrote:
I think I currently want to lynch Koshi. He's clearly going down the side of buddying rayn which is smart and angling towards sowing discontent which is also smart but I'm not gonna fall for it. I'll see what boring conclusions he comes up with but he's chosen the wrong side of the fence. Can you point out specific posts that you feel are trying to sow discontent and how he's doing that please? Again, I need things explaining to me as if I'm a baby. It makes the game easier to play that way. He's afraid that rayn will spot he's mafia so he's sided on buddying him. If he's reading the thread it's quite easy to see the points that weren't related to rayn's opening had merit. Everyone can at least agree on that. Apart from Koshi. Then he's trying to shovel stuff towards bugs/myself etc to sow those seeds of discontent and likely build a platform out of it. What will be most telling (although now he'll just read this post and change what he's doing if he's mafia) is where he ends up on. I've admitted my rayn stuff was semi fabricated. Bugs has the same stance as Jock (who koshi is now ignoring), calix myself etc. If he sticks to saying bugs and myself look worst then he's stuck in his mafia narrative.
Isn't this exactly the problem with replying to things form the past without reading what's going on now?
It seems like a tactic designed deliberately to keep the subject of discussion on old irrelevant arguments.
Yeah koshi looks bad. Let's see if he has anything to say that's relevant to the state of the thread as it is now.
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Koshi what do you think of disinformation??
Look at his filter please!
Its small, only a few posts, but its hella scummy, right?
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On May 20 2019 17:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 17:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
Koshi what do you think of disinformation??
Look at his filter please!
Its small, only a few posts, but its hella scummy, right? I havent seen any posts yet. Also. Everything I post is liquid gold and you should be honoured to be able to witness a brilliant mind at work.
Here's the thing.
I wrote disinformation but meant conversion.
I have no idea why I would get those two mixed up.
Koshi what do you think of conversion??
Look at his filter please!
Its small, only a few posts, but its hella scummy, right?
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Lynching conversion is the smart play here.
Like reading through his filter I can't see a single post where there's a clear town motive. He makes a read but says sorry and its probably wrong like because he hasn't played much.
Later on its 'i'm on phone and lazy'.
He's the third person in the space of a couple of hours to say he's on a plane and can't post. NAI on its own but looks scummy in context. Doesn't come back after. Long plane journey? Can't still post lazily on his phone when he lands/gets home. I mean if you're posting lazily why not just take the 2 seconds to do so.
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On May 20 2019 18:10 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did. As I am just finishing the catch up so far. Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die. Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing. VE does raise a good point on Igrok however before we decide to fully opt that route we should wait for him to get back from being gone all day on a plane to post anything to get a better idea. I am fine with putting him on the likely red list for now but I feel like its fine to give the man a few more posts before damning him given what he has posted thus far. Also this is being quoted for anyone who bothers to think on it. I feel it will give me / anyone with brains proper reads on eachother this game. On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, what was the plan behind it? No plan. I just thought it would be fun. So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead? That's really the line you're going with lol? Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do...  I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too. Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn?? It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy. Welcome to smart town. PS: also mafia reside in smart town.
So you're saying that everyone who is playing smart could be town or mafia, and everyone who is playing stupid could be town or mafia.
Welcome to pointless town, where every post is pointless.
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On May 20 2019 18:11 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 18:10 Koshi wrote:On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did. As I am just finishing the catch up so far. Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die. Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing. VE does raise a good point on Igrok however before we decide to fully opt that route we should wait for him to get back from being gone all day on a plane to post anything to get a better idea. I am fine with putting him on the likely red list for now but I feel like its fine to give the man a few more posts before damning him given what he has posted thus far. Also this is being quoted for anyone who bothers to think on it. I feel it will give me / anyone with brains proper reads on eachother this game. On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, what was the plan behind it? No plan. I just thought it would be fun. So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead? That's really the line you're going with lol? Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do... I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too. Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn?? It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy. Welcome to smart town. PS: also mafia reside in smart town. So you're saying that everyone who is playing smart could be town or mafia, and everyone who is playing stupid could be town or mafia. Welcome to pointless town, where every post is pointless.
PS mafia ALWAYS reside in pointless town.
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On May 20 2019 18:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 18:11 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 18:10 Koshi wrote:On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did. As I am just finishing the catch up so far. Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die. Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing. VE does raise a good point on Igrok however before we decide to fully opt that route we should wait for him to get back from being gone all day on a plane to post anything to get a better idea. I am fine with putting him on the likely red list for now but I feel like its fine to give the man a few more posts before damning him given what he has posted thus far. Also this is being quoted for anyone who bothers to think on it. I feel it will give me / anyone with brains proper reads on eachother this game. On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, what was the plan behind it? No plan. I just thought it would be fun. So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead? That's really the line you're going with lol? Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do... I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too. Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn?? It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy. Welcome to smart town. PS: also mafia reside in smart town. So you're saying that everyone who is playing smart could be town or mafia, and everyone who is playing stupid could be town or mafia. Welcome to pointless town, where every post is pointless. Tis true. Except smart people are smart.
Its true but pointless as I said, to say it.
Everyone could be town of mafia. Making a bunch of post to point that out seems kinda like you're wasting everyone's time - no matter how true it is.
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I'll let you guys figure it out when it comes to my play. I'm trying to be transparent about my reasoning. I'm not too happy with koshi ignoring me because my points are too simplistic.
If i was mafia I'd be delighted to be put in the stupid townie bracket but honestly I jsut wnat to lynch scum and play the game cooperatively with you guys. If koshi's ignoring me he is going directly against my objective of lynching scum and is therefore anti-town at best.
Koshi if you think my reads are stupid or whatever help me read people better don't just say you're gonna ignore me cos that's just not cool.
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YES calix lets convert that conversion into a dead scum.
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On May 20 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 08:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 20 2019 08:39 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 08:34 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
If I had to rate people based on being robotic I'd probably have a list of:
Calix
iGrok
Bugs
Then there's just like:
Koshi
Conversion
Disfo(???? maybe not ????)
probably a good list for day 1 to look at tbh koshi literally has no posts and lazily plays all the time why is he on the list You had 2 posts. Don't even think disfo had posted. What's your point? It's poe. I don't want to have to have bugs 2.0 like last game over a poe list again what's so hard to understand lol? why do you defend everyone who is actually scummy? He is mirroring his town meta.
BRUTAL
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On May 20 2019 19:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:36 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:28 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 15:12 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 08:30 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 06:39 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 06:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Hi disinformation. As I see you are here. Answer me!
What do you think of the quote I posted in my bigger post above? dunno if I see the point. rayn comments on some ppl (which dont look scummy to him) and jock asks if anyone looks suspicious to him. I think one would expect rayn to call people scum/mafia (like he is doing now). though. thinking about it, jock kinda ignores that rayn just gave a bunch of reads and says rayn is only defending himself and berating people. which he isnt cause he just gave reads. hmmm... don't think I like that. idk i havent played in a while but this sorta flaky thing is something that’s rather evident (like rayn just mentioned, he doesn’t take a stance really)someone correct me if that’s just how disfo plays, but i dont like pivot posts where someone goes “hmm good point but x” “this is true but y” might be personal bias against posts like that though. i’ll do a meta check once at a computer but i like my read right now WTF this is scummy. So apologetic about his read. And he has played recently - End of the World Mafia.. Bugs what do you think of this. In so far as that post stuck out to me, I’m in agreement. My problem is that disformation is objectively not a bad lead. I want to give the two of them more time to see whether that clears itself up and one or both of them post things that make more sense. The scummiest thing that conversion has done is call someone scum for being flaky, in a flaky way. There was the past game point that you pointed out which also stuck out to me but this is less indicative, IMO. Btw I’m actually so happy you stepped in my town trap because now I’m more confident in my read on you. I looked at conversion’s post history to see if he had any past games after he troll voted HF, to see if he trolls in general. The last game point is one that I let slip to see if someone else would catch it Can somebody explain me this towntrap?
I could but I'd rather see what WBG has to say about it.
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On May 20 2019 19:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
I sense HF abandoning me. Gotta find the better wagon.
BRB
Conversion's a baddie, join us.
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On May 20 2019 18:39 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.
Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)
Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation
Null
Everyone else where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.- What is your read on Jock? And what do you think of Conversion coming in and calling you flaky? flaky is a new one. usually people say things like "waffly" "unoriginal" "no reads" etc. And I don't think I did a lot of stuff in this game so far so *shrugs*. is basically my play style so I suspect he is going to scum read me a lot? interested to see if he follows up on the meta though. jock is complicated for me atm. will do a post after lunch to explain. Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 16:58 Koshi wrote:
I also ignore jock his posts. Which is dangerous but w.e highway to the danger zone right into the danger zone great now i have an ear worm
I don't like this post.
Seems to inject some silly lightheartedness in there at the end but it sounds forced. As if its saying 'LIKE ME GUYS'.
Does this seem off to anyone else?
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On May 20 2019 19:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Bleargh.....maybe I can do that. All Convert does in filter is shit on disfo, back off that read and then....piss off? Is that accurate?
Yeah basically.
Pisses off using the same excuse as two people before him (might be true but still... yuck)
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On May 20 2019 19:38 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 18:39 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.
Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)
Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation
Null
Everyone else where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.- What is your read on Jock? And what do you think of Conversion coming in and calling you flaky? flaky is a new one. usually people say things like "waffly" "unoriginal" "no reads" etc. And I don't think I did a lot of stuff in this game so far so *shrugs*. hmm good point but x” “this is true but y” is basically my play style so I suspect he is going to scum read me a lot? interested to see if he follows up on the meta though. jock is complicated for me atm. will do a post after lunch to explain. On May 20 2019 16:58 Koshi wrote:
I also ignore jock his posts. Which is dangerous but w.e highway to the danger zone right into the danger zone great now i have an ear worm I don't like this post. Seems to inject some silly lightheartedness in there at the end but it sounds forced. As if its saying 'LIKE ME GUYS'. Does this seem off to anyone else?
Not saying he's scum but it caught my attention at least.
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On May 20 2019 19:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 16:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:31 Jockmcplop wrote:
What does everyone think about lynching a lurker or someone that is AFK?
I know people in general on here tend to be against policy lynches like that but in the game I played as mafia the way mafia won was by literally not posting (mostly) for the first few days. Is that the standard mafia meta here?
Because if so, iGrok is a great vote.
Otherwise I wouldn't really vote for him based off what he has posted, just what he hasn't posted. So it doesn't get lost. Anyone wanna talk about lynching a lurker? iGrok is the only real afk lurker imo. And I respect VE Conversion hits second place? Calix is most mafia. I think a lynch there is fine.
Yeah I could vote for any of those and be happy with it.
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On May 20 2019 19:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
What is the certaintude around Calix about? What I remember of Calix didn't seem damning, I haven't filtered tho. And I at least DO remember some posts, like Calix here at least right?
I think it was an intro post that just parrotted what other people were saying.
Other than that I haven't really seen anything.
I think koshi has a meta read of some sort (thinks calix is better than that as town).
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On May 20 2019 19:50 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 19:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
What is the certaintude around Calix about? What I remember of Calix didn't seem damning, I haven't filtered tho. And I at least DO remember some posts, like Calix here at least right? I think it was an intro post that just parrotted what other people were saying. Other than that I haven't really seen anything. I think koshi has a meta read of some sort (thinks calix is better than that as town).
It was a bad intro post though.
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On May 20 2019 20:55 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:21 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 15:11 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will predict Jockmcplop never arrives anymore to this thread.
P.S. i am awake from 7am until 11pm. Fuck you man. I'm here ask anything you want. I'm also grumpy in the mornings. Would you kill ruxxar? If no, why not? What about disformation and Calix? Those are the three options I am presenting today, and if you want my rationale you can check my previous posts. We aren’t killing rayn day 1. I can't figure out why you would want to kill ruxxar. Looking through your filter there's a post where you say its because of something he said but didn't quote it. I really, genuinely don't have time to go ook it up in the thread but man I can't see anything that really jumps out at me as scummy. Yet. Disinformation:
I don't really like his posting. Its a little scummy to pick on reads that other people are making without making any of your own so he is certainly in the scumlean pile.Calix That first post was horrible. Later on he is posting things that make a little bit of sense. I'm interested in the VE/rayn setup idea, although I'm also open to that literally just being VE knowing that rayn would shit up the thread because he always does this. Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 19:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 19:38 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 18:39 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.
Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)
Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation
Null
Everyone else where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.- What is your read on Jock? And what do you think of Conversion coming in and calling you flaky? flaky is a new one. usually people say things like "waffly" "unoriginal" "no reads" etc. And I don't think I did a lot of stuff in this game so far so *shrugs*. hmm good point but x” “this is true but y” is basically my play style so I suspect he is going to scum read me a lot? interested to see if he follows up on the meta though. jock is complicated for me atm. will do a post after lunch to explain. On May 20 2019 16:58 Koshi wrote:
I also ignore jock his posts. Which is dangerous but w.e highway to the danger zone right into the danger zone great now i have an ear worm I don't like this post. Seems to inject some silly lightheartedness in there at the end but it sounds forced. As if its saying 'LIKE ME GUYS'. Does this seem off to anyone else? Not saying he's scum but it caught my attention at least. why does he go from a scumlean to you finding a post about him and taking an ironically passive stance on disfo, something you’re calling me out for..
Disfo is still a scumlean but hasn't done anything that screams scum. Its mostly just for a general lack of good posts. One good post at this point would probably change my mind so I'm not inclined to vote for disfo on that basis.
Honestly that second bit you quoted isn't something I'm very confident about. I would be a bit foolish to call someone out for being scum because I found thought they were being over friendly like that in one single post. Its too hard to tell the difference between over friendly and friendly on a forum post. If it was a pattern then yeah. I just pointed it out because I'm at work and don't have my notes with me so it makes it easier to write up ontes when i get home if I literally quote every single post that catches my attention.
Its very different to your case because you have not done anything AND the one read you did make you made a weird excuse for why it could be wrong. That gives me strong scummy vibes. I wasn't really calling you out for being afk (iirc i said that's not scummy on its own) it was more just support for my case.
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On May 20 2019 20:33 Conversion wrote:
like i think it’s incredibly disingenous to cal me flaky and apologetic and trying to lurk for not doing much when the only other person that pointed disfo out at the point was rayn at that point. also fuck you why would i ever make an irl excuse when i can just literally disappear. also double fuck you because i didnt play the last game i was in because i lost my job
Isn't appeal to emotion like number 1 in the mafia playbook?
Sorry for being an asshole about it, but yeah that's just more evidence.
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