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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:37 GMT
#3899
On May 25 2019 19:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 19:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mhm then why is everyone voting not Calix?

Because you don't care enough to try and get people to vote Calix obviously. Instead everyone lynching iGrok because HF has a big huge case on him.

I've made my case already. Still dont think iGrko is mafia and HF case is not as strong as claims. Dfinitely not timeline case strong.

Your case includes conclusions that I disagree with. For instance, the meta part of it, I come to the opposite conclusion you do about it. The game you linked indicates that Calix WOULD BE confident in her ability to TR HF correctly, not the opposite like you're claiming.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:40 GMT
#3905
On May 25 2019 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 19:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 19:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2019 19:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mhm then why is everyone voting not Calix?

Because you don't care enough to try and get people to vote Calix obviously. Instead everyone lynching iGrok because HF has a big huge case on him.

I've made my case already. Still dont think iGrko is mafia and HF case is not as strong as claims. Dfinitely not timeline case strong.

Your case includes conclusions that I disagree with. For instance, the meta part of it, I come to the opposite conclusion you do about it. The game you linked indicates that Calix WOULD BE confident in her ability to TR HF correctly, not the opposite like you're claiming.

well then you probably vote for someone else.

I do dawg. But if I'm wrong or you think I'm wrong feel free to enlighten me. That's my take, is there something I'm missing?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:41 GMT
#3907
On May 25 2019 19:40 Koshi wrote:
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On May 25 2019 19:38 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2019 19:22 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 18:56 Koshi wrote:
How wbg has bc AND artanis town I will never understand.
BC basically only scumreads Artanis lol.

Their reads are opposites.

well at least he is consistant in his scumread of art.
and in kinda liking grok.
unfortunately these are also kinda the two solid things in the last page of his filter

I know. I mean where does wbg his townread for bc come from? Their reads are opposites.

At some point wbg should reconsider on bc. But he isnt. He blindly keeps claiming bc is town. Doesnt matter what bc does.

Tunneled townies be tunneled man idk what to tell you. Bugs is either balls-deep in a town-tunnel or he's mafia, and in either case there's no getting through to him.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:43 GMT
#3911
On May 25 2019 19:41 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 19:40 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2019 19:38 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2019 19:22 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 18:56 Koshi wrote:
How wbg has bc AND artanis town I will never understand.
BC basically only scumreads Artanis lol.

Their reads are opposites.

well at least he is consistant in his scumread of art.
and in kinda liking grok.
unfortunately these are also kinda the two solid things in the last page of his filter

I know. I mean where does wbg his townread for bc come from? Their reads are opposites.

At some point wbg should reconsider on bc. But he isnt. He blindly keeps claiming bc is town. Doesnt matter what bc does.

isnt the big main reason for wbg to town read bc meta?
you know the meta read where art was like "hes aggressive like in his scum games" and everyone else after looking at a game of bc was like "uh no"

He says it's based on more now, the way he's working with him this game the way his reads progress etc etc. To me it all just looks like post-hoc justification for a tunneled read, finding excuses to not change his read....but obviously I think the vast majority of what Bugs is doing is tunnel related for obvious reasons.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:45 GMT
#3913
On May 25 2019 19:44 disformation wrote:
yeah dunno.
tbh i am a bit weary of meta reads on ppl i dont know well or havent played with in a while etc
not saying meta is a bad tool.
but if you are only relying on a meta read im a bit dunno. esp given we have a like 200page fucking thread full of info i would be happy if it was like meta + x other thing.

Amen brother.

Problem is no one trusts each other enough to work together. Its why we're in this situation to begin with.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:47 GMT
#3915
On May 25 2019 19:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On May 22 2019 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 22 2019 22:25 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2019 17:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2019 17:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
Personally, I think ruxxar was perfectly correct to call me mafia. I had a high burst of activity and then have completely waffled and disappeared as people get more active.

What I don't like is that it was opportunistic. He'd town read me before afaik, arbitrarily decided that between rayn and I that I somehow became mafia and then wrote the narrative on me.

He dropped all his other reads for that too. Essentially I'm the lynch bait currently and he took it. Who else is he supposed to push to look good other than a high profile sitting duck that people can't disagree with his read on?


Why are you not responding to me

I find this analysis weird though, why on earth do you think you’re the lynch bait here? If anything it’s Calix or disformation.

I agree that it’s a scum vote but I think it’s more a vote in line with “if I vote HF here no one will believe I’d have the balls to do that as scum” because you weren’t on any radars and weren’t likely to be lynched given the vote spread

He has consistently just disappeared after every short burst of activity and his “progressions” are just odd. As you pointed out he just completely dropped the Calix/conversion business; what happened to one of them being scum?

He also had a set up into calling BC scum but dropped that too. No idea why he mentions rayn in his post on you either, just seems like a forced mention especially because rayn was nearly completely absent for 24 hours.


Sorry what was I supposed to respond to?


I am the perfect lynch bait. I could make a case on myself for being mafia. High activity poking on rayn to blow up into low activity keeping options open when everyone becomes active?

I'm the mafia dream to push. Nobody can really argue with that. Push back on calix/conversion etc is all because they have blurred lines, nothing to sway one way or the other.


Are you going to help kill ruxxar??

I honestly don’t think iGrok is scum here. Scum basically has to be in:

Ruxxar
VE
rayn
Koshi

Almost everyone else has a few or loads of town points in favour

Quoted for good laughs.

We should keep a list on that:

Ruxxar
VE
rayn
Koshi




how do you think this list is going bugs?

I told you he's claiming blue Rayn so to him it's

Ruxxar
VE
rayn
Koshi


And he's still totes fine with it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:50 GMT
#3916
Don't ask me why he's perfectly okay with an iGrok lynch in that case, I couldn't tell you. But he's currently where I just said he is, and he's claiming blue, and he's currently ignoring all of our posts.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:51 GMT
#3919
On May 25 2019 19:51 Koshi wrote:
Artanis is going to do 1 big push to remove votes from him onto somewhere else. And oGrok is imo not the spot but w.e w.e w.e

Why is wbg even voting iGrok tbh.

Because in his mind it leads directly to one of our lynches.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:52 GMT
#3920
I imagine. LOL

You know what the last thing to go through a Bugs' mind when he hits a windshield?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:52 GMT
#3922
His brains.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:53 GMT
#3923
His asshole
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:53 GMT
#3924
His asshole is the punchline god damnit I fucked it up
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:55 GMT
#3927
The funny part is that if Koshi dies and flips Vet, bugs STILL freaks out on me and rayn because "TMI!" LOL

This game man.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:57 GMT
#3929
Rayn can I ask you why you're so unwilling to compromise in games? Like I get it, you like to be right and the only way to be proven right is to lynch your targets or whatever but like....if you can WIN the game and be right too, why not do that instead? This nonsense about being unwilling to help OTHERS in the game see what you see hurts towns man.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 10:59 GMT
#3934
On May 25 2019 19:58 Koshi wrote:
Ruxxar gave everything.
Artanis gave close to nothing. Fuck him.

My biggest regret this game is letting Bugs talk me into voting Ruxxar. He even told me it was a fucking trap. SMH.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 11:01 GMT
#3936
On May 22 2019 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also if ruxxar flips town I’m killing anyone who townread him

*long drawn out sigh*
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 11:02 GMT
#3937
On May 25 2019 20:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 19:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn can I ask you why you're so unwilling to compromise in games? Like I get it, you like to be right and the only way to be proven right is to lynch your targets or whatever but like....if you can WIN the game and be right too, why not do that instead? This nonsense about being unwilling to help OTHERS in the game see what you see hurts towns man.

I have used endless amount of effort in convincing other people and compromising in games and all i have gotten from it is being called tunneled, stupid and other names -- except for from some specific people. It's not worth my time. I am here just to tell what i think, i don't care who gets lynched or if people believe me or not. I just vote for who i think is mafia.

But like...it seems like a lot of the people who don't do that are here in this game and want to work with you right? Me, Artanis, it seems like you and HF could work together if you tried...BC not beyond reason.

Like I think you're tunneled on Calix sure, but I'm not berating you for it or anything, I just want to understand man. And you're not helping me to understand.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 11:04 GMT
#3939
On May 25 2019 20:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My points are in my filter. I am not gonna fabricate a case, you either believe or not believe what i wrote makes her mafia, that's it.

:/

I mean, I made points too that you're not engaging me on. I could be convinced if you could get me off those points but you seem uninterested.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 11:05 GMT
#3941
I do like that point and it's one of the reasons I'd like rayn to engage with me on the meta portion of it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 25 2019 11:08 GMT
#3944
Because he's right, as far as Calix is concerned everyone lives happily ever after, but not Conv and that's another part of why I want rayn to engage with me. He seems certain about Conversion and Conversion actually followed through with the stuff he's pointing out there - the filtering of BC/Art/VE he talks about with Calix there he actually goes through with and makes conclusions based on what he saw. But it's like none of that matters to rayn and I want to know why.

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