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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 20:37 GMT
#4478
Can someone that's not me just blatantly copy and paste my post please?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 20:38 GMT
#4484
On May 26 2019 05:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Artanis come back.

Lame by you hf


I didn't use it to scum read him at all so not lame.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 20:40 GMT
#4488
On May 26 2019 05:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 05:38 Koshi wrote:
On May 26 2019 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Artanis come back.

Lame by you hf

I said that too, he was sick of only me in the thread and wanted people he actually likes to come back.

I fucking hate that I wish HF liked me. I'm starting to think I don't anymore.


Dude I don't understand why you think I hate you! I really like you!

You keep posting all these words at me like I'm ignoring you when I respond to literally everything you write! I feel like you feel to bugs just you're using my like of you as a hostage and he's using your alignment as a hostage. Don't gaslight me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 20:41 GMT
#4491
When iGrok returns, since he is ignoring me can you please make him clarify the following:

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[image loading]
This is his posted read list a while ago when responding to me. It shows VE as red coloured for points up to when he posted it. That's 2 red coloured things on his list and 2 (cut off when he showed the later one) green posts (that aren't actually related to what VE has said, just meta so don't actually know why they are coloured green).

This is his post after with VE not coloured green or red or anything, just white + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


As you can see, literally nothing has changed other than the cropping but his name has changed colour. He also clarifies the following:

On May 25 2019 03:23 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 03:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because his hidden points are no longer hidden? 2 of them were townie?

Oh no, hidden stuff is still hidden. So you have 2 more points. in green.

Basically my read on you has never been certain.


So, he's got 2 hidden reads in green (why are there even hidden ones if he was never showing this to begin with who the fuck knows?) but this doesn't correlate with what he's said here:

On May 21 2019 16:58 iGrok wrote:
alright guys its 1am and I have to be up at 5am for another all-day class. I'll be back before the vote, catch up, give my thoughts, and vote. next day cycle won't be like this, class finishes friday.

And I guess I shouldn't really say class, its a programming seminar thats 12 hours/day.

Go catch some scum for me lol. Most of my reads are there.

Some hidden thought counts for future use:
BC:1
WBG:2
HF:2
VE:4
Rux:1

Actually, I'll go ahead and open the rux thought up. Someone should review post #682. I honestly dont even remember what it was and I'm about to pass out, but I made a note to review it.


There are 4 hidden points for VE.

Can you please make him clarify when these "hidden points" occurred. It makes a big big lot of difference based on the colouring times.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 20:48 GMT
#4511
On May 26 2019 05:42 iGrok wrote:
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On May 26 2019 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2019 05:39 iGrok wrote:
On May 26 2019 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2019 05:36 iGrok wrote:
Oh this is funny I’ll respond: I’m not responding to HF because he’s pure mafia so why would I interact with him when it will just give him more points to try to twist logic

did you claim blue like bugs says?

What? When the fuck did he say I did that? That’s trash and I’m town

he is sure because i am mafia and we (me and you are opposing alignments) and apparently you "claimed" blue.

Lol at no point did I claim blue or fake claim or any of that shit. I did maybe hint that I knew your parity cop claim was fake because it felt so obviously fake and is such a rayn thing to do d1


What games have you played with rayn to make this assumption?

[image loading]

Rayn was in none of these games? Which ones aren't in the database?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 20:48 GMT
#4513
On May 26 2019 05:45 Koshi wrote:
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On May 26 2019 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2019 10:14 iGrok wrote:
I just voted Artanis because of the two of us he’s scummier. Would still prefer HF Lynch.

Am going to meet Alakaslam for dinner in LA, then another plane home .
Maybe I’ll be back before N2.

Coincidentally, this may look scummy as shit, but fuck you im tired and I don’t want to read 10 pages of is he - isn’t he about Koshi.

Obviously, you have my reads, most of you either agree but still think I’m shady or think they are bad and think I’m shady, so gfys and keep spamming away.

Peace


^ this is igrok's breadcrumb by the way

read the first caps letters

Interesting. And you are gunsmith.
Ugh. Weird game.

Is gunsmith town only?I assume it is.

I am thinking.


I'm not gunsmith.

That's not even his post, I edited it -.- keep up fam
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 20:50 GMT
#4517
On May 26 2019 05:49 iGrok wrote:
Pretty sure rayn is town. Done a bunch of townie rayn stuff


On May 26 2019 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 05:42 iGrok wrote:
On May 26 2019 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2019 05:39 iGrok wrote:
On May 26 2019 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2019 05:36 iGrok wrote:
Oh this is funny I’ll respond: I’m not responding to HF because he’s pure mafia so why would I interact with him when it will just give him more points to try to twist logic

did you claim blue like bugs says?

What? When the fuck did he say I did that? That’s trash and I’m town

he is sure because i am mafia and we (me and you are opposing alignments) and apparently you "claimed" blue.

Lol at no point did I claim blue or fake claim or any of that shit. I did maybe hint that I knew your parity cop claim was fake because it felt so obviously fake and is such a rayn thing to do d1


What games have you played with rayn to make this assumption?

[image loading]

Rayn was in none of these games? Which ones aren't in the database?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 20:58 GMT
#4535
On May 26 2019 05:53 iGrok wrote:
HF clearly doesn’t know who I am lol. I’m a host/cohost much more than player, and half my games were smurfs


ah yeah only been here since 2011 excuse my ignorance
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:00 GMT
#4539
On May 26 2019 05:57 iGrok wrote:
Damnit Koshi, only since it’s you.

There’s 2 green and 2 null hidden points for VE. All having to do with something that I’m not allowed to talk about. They were all there early, though since I update my colors when context comes around I’m not sure how long the green ones have been green


So there's 2 green and 2 null AT THE TIME YOU POSTED THAT LIST which was early game. EARLY game. Thus, including the 2 green points already highlighted on your reads list that makes 4 total green points to VE. But in your screenshot you posted VE was red even though he had that many green points???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:00 GMT
#4542
I don't.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:01 GMT
#4544
Artanis maybe. iGrok definitely. I remember this asshole from a game I played in and I'd much rather be rid of him now.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:02 GMT
#4551
Just so it's not clear iGrok has been caught out in a time loop by answering that post. I can prove it with his own screenshots if people don't understand.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:08 GMT
#4572
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This is iGrok's screenshot of his read list early. Note his VE read is red even though if you look at hius later posts there's 2 green counts on his name early game.


On May 21 2019 16:58 iGrok wrote:
alright guys its 1am and I have to be up at 5am for another all-day class. I'll be back before the vote, catch up, give my thoughts, and vote. next day cycle won't be like this, class finishes friday.

And I guess I shouldn't really say class, its a programming seminar thats 12 hours/day.

Go catch some scum for me lol. Most of my reads are there.

Some hidden thought counts for future use:
BC:1
WBG:2
HF:2
VE:4
Rux:1

Actually, I'll go ahead and open the rux thought up. Someone should review post #682. I honestly dont even remember what it was and I'm about to pass out, but I made a note to review it.


This is the post where he says VE has 4 hidden points (points that aren't on this read screenshot) and now that he's finally elaborated that this means 2 green points and 2 null points extra that brings VE up to a total of 4 green points and 2 red points at the time of the above screenshotted post.

Why is VE red?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:09 GMT
#4575
On May 26 2019 06:07 iGrok wrote:
So just to be clear, we’re all completely ignoring that HF apparently faked a post by me to include a fake breadcrumb to attack me for falsely crumbing a cop? Everyone thinks this is totally normal town behavior?


I didn't use it to attack you, I rescinded it almost immediately.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:10 GMT
#4578
On May 26 2019 06:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 06:07 iGrok wrote:
So just to be clear, we’re all completely ignoring that HF apparently faked a post by me to include a fake breadcrumb to attack me for falsely crumbing a cop? Everyone thinks this is totally normal town behavior?


I didn't use it to attack you, I rescinded it almost immediately.


I wanted to get more information out of rayn and his claim because he said he would vote you if he found the breadcrumb but then you turned up and I didn't want you to actually claim a blue role and it become a whole thing so I rescinded it immediately to stop it devolving into a shit show.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:13 GMT
#4588
Imagine being told that your read is wrong repeatedly and after having read nothing since he's been back still keeping it :D :D

Only mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:13 GMT
#4589
On May 26 2019 06:08 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This is iGrok's screenshot of his read list early. Note his VE read is red even though if you look at hius later posts there's 2 green counts on his name early game.


Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 16:58 iGrok wrote:
alright guys its 1am and I have to be up at 5am for another all-day class. I'll be back before the vote, catch up, give my thoughts, and vote. next day cycle won't be like this, class finishes friday.

And I guess I shouldn't really say class, its a programming seminar thats 12 hours/day.

Go catch some scum for me lol. Most of my reads are there.

Some hidden thought counts for future use:
BC:1
WBG:2
HF:2
VE:4
Rux:1

Actually, I'll go ahead and open the rux thought up. Someone should review post #682. I honestly dont even remember what it was and I'm about to pass out, but I made a note to review it.


This is the post where he says VE has 4 hidden points (points that aren't on this read screenshot) and now that he's finally elaborated that this means 2 green points and 2 null points extra that brings VE up to a total of 4 green points and 2 red points at the time of the above screenshotted post.

Why is VE red?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:16 GMT
#4591
On May 26 2019 06:10 Conversion wrote:
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On May 26 2019 06:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
Conversion he's either doing the BC scumpost thing because he hasn't given us an obvious enough scumtell yet or trying to get a reaction.
It looks ridiculous if you read it though lol.

WHY IS EVERYONE POSTING SO MUCH AND WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T POSTING NOT POSTING AND WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE MAFIA ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH


so fucking bad..

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On May 25 2019 20:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok?

I see some merit in it, but I also feel like its somewhat fabricated. Everything of Igrok I see comes off as townish for the most part. My biggest issue is that Koshi is hard town reading him.


2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads?

Town
BC
Bugs
VE(i know right)

Null to lean town
HF
Rayn
Igrok
Jock

Null to Lean Mafia
Koshi
Conversion

Mafia
Artanis
Calix
Disinformation
I


LITERALLY ARTANIS one of his mafia reads why is he getting so angry??????


Good points tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:17 GMT
#4598
On May 26 2019 06:16 iGrok wrote:
Sorry bb I’m a little pissed off atm


You only bring it upon yourself for scum reading literally the only guy that could have saved you and ignoring every time I could have talked to you and deescalated the situation. The thread is only as big as it is because you refuse to answer simple points and look worse so people are forced to repeat themselves about you over and over again.

You contribute to the thread length in ways unbeknownst to many.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 25 2019 21:19 GMT
#4601
On May 26 2019 06:17 Calix wrote:
@HF @HF @HF @HF

I know you think iGrok is super scummy and all.

And I am inclined to agree with you.

But he DID just vote to kill himself.

Votes are now like [iGrok 6, Artanis 3, Calix 2] IIRC.

That doesn't seem very sensible for mafia to do?

Could we vote off a spammy mafia instead? If this spam continues, all the townies will get frustrated/ drowned out, lol.


He had always voted to kill himself. He was always in the lead with no ability to save himself. Don't get tricked like day 1 where he just does the same thing again and it worked on you.

What spammy mafia do you suggest killing anyway?
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