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On May 20 2019 23:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from. From what I recall BC's mafia game tends to be more stand-offish and abrasive than his town game, and it feels like he's doing just that. Are you not bothered by him driving the Calix point home for following thread sentiment in a wordy manner whilst literally following thread sentiment?
Wait wait wait? Let me get this straight.
In a thread where basically only 2 people (one of which I was the first to really scum read) being rayn and ruxxar all saw Calix as scum. Where at a time, Rayn was getting shit on from the entire thread. I was pushing thread sentiment? I was stopping a shit show of cluttering of the thread as best I could.
Ruxxar? Thread sentiment? Literally the first to bring him up.
Disinformation? same basic thing.
So basically fuck you artanis. I tried to keep people off you so you could come back and at least do something. I give next to 0 fucks you chose to filter dive me cause well its at least productive but for you to completely read the thread wrong means you skim read, didnt read, or chose to fabricate shit. ESPECIALLY when you filter dive me.
Sorry, if you outright say you are reading my filter, I expect you to read the thread at the time of my postings, otherwise you are legit making shit up.
So you wanted me to read you? You can join the mafia side of my list.
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On May 21 2019 01:57 ruXxar wrote:
its like a circle jerk of the big dawgs preying on the weak.
now that they finally calmed down the mice stick their heads out.
This quite honestly sounds like you are actively reading the thread but opting to not post to avoid the active players. Active players who are trying to figure the game out. Now why wouldn't you want to be helping figure the game out?
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Pretty sure Igrok isnt up for the lynch anymore Koshi
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Pretty sure there's more votes on someone else now? Or did I miscount the votes?
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By nature of when he was here and what was going on, How is just general inactivity make more more suspicious? If he appears just to avoid potential warnings/modkills it would look suspicious otherwise why does it get worse?
There are far better options atm then someone who might get removed via a mod. That is literally why he shouldnt be up for a lynch
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Rules state non voters are up for it
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On May 21 2019 05:13 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 02:33 ruXxar wrote:
havent played a mafia game where its been this hard to come up with solid reads ngl.
everyone being active smart or active gorilla, hard to tell apart day 1. hope this isnt like a hf/koshi/art game or something. Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
By nature of when he was here and what was going on, How is just general inactivity make more more suspicious? If he appears just to avoid potential warnings/modkills it would look suspicious otherwise why does it get worse?
There are far better options atm then someone who might get removed via a mod. That is literally why he shouldnt be up for a lynch isnt banking on modkills a bad idea? like nothing stops him showing up 1-2mins b4 deadline posting something and then avoiding the modkill. i think VE has a point. in recent fibonacci themed game, scum!vivax got a bunch of votes thrown in his face and just disappeared from the face of the earth.
Thing is, If he shows up and provides literally nothing just to save himself that itself is more or less the proof youd need to off him as he cares enough to live but not play. Its day 1. Id rather rng day 1 than just kill someone who might eat a modkill.
Vivax flipped red last game but Id argue the same thing. To me at the point he vanished I wasn't sold on the kill Vivax. He got modkilled and flipped red. Doesn't prove that this will happen this time as its a different player.
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On May 21 2019 05:30 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 05:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 21 2019 05:13 disformation wrote:On May 21 2019 02:33 ruXxar wrote:
havent played a mafia game where its been this hard to come up with solid reads ngl.
everyone being active smart or active gorilla, hard to tell apart day 1. hope this isnt like a hf/koshi/art game or something. On May 21 2019 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
By nature of when he was here and what was going on, How is just general inactivity make more more suspicious? If he appears just to avoid potential warnings/modkills it would look suspicious otherwise why does it get worse?
There are far better options atm then someone who might get removed via a mod. That is literally why he shouldnt be up for a lynch isnt banking on modkills a bad idea? like nothing stops him showing up 1-2mins b4 deadline posting something and then avoiding the modkill. i think VE has a point. in recent fibonacci themed game, scum!vivax got a bunch of votes thrown in his face and just disappeared from the face of the earth. Thing is, If he shows up and provides literally nothing just to save himself that itself is more or less the proof youd need to off him as he cares enough to live but not play. Its day 1. Id rather rng day 1 than just kill someone who might eat a modkill. Vivax flipped red last game but Id argue the same thing. To me at the point he vanished I wasn't sold on the kill Vivax. He got modkilled and flipped red. Doesn't prove that this will happen this time as its a different player. alright, i mean if he does it really obvious like we can obviously just lynch him next day. point is rather: if he is likely to flip scum we should still lynch him and not bank on a mod action. and d1 imo is not a bad day to lynch into the less active players. not sure if he is my preferred lunch though. mah reeds are kinda ass atm tbh. gonna duck out for another hour. will hopefully be back to actually play then
Im not convinced as of the moment that he is likely to flip scum though. Im not familiar enough with his meta. Lynching less active people is fine, but ones that are active enough to read properly. Full on inactives are better off being killed by mods or vigis
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tbh VE just going to throw this up as its from day 1 of our last game
On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.
Jock
Rels
FF
Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.
If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.
In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town
Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral
Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town.
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IE given that you had 0 issue with me basically saying the same thing last game, weird youd take issue with it here
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On May 21 2019 06:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not gonna lie, its NAI he'd do it as town too if he thinks I'm being a donkey, but I'm deadly ass serious about coming for him if iGrok gets flipped mafia.
Anyway back to what I was doing. BC quit being a scumlord.
Go for it. Keep in mind my view of igrok this game (while being similar) is the exact same sentiment I had basically with Vivax. Again, it wasn't scummy as shit for me last game, not sure why you think it is now. Maybe because you are all in on the Igrok wagon but still.
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On May 21 2019 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
I think my town circle was a bit wrong perhaps.
Makes you feel any better, I feel mine is off as well.
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On May 21 2019 06:16 ruXxar wrote:
Why the hell are you getting so defensive over a single post by artanis bloody. If you were town i would expect you to shrug at the accusation, but here you write a 200 word essay trying refute the point.
Based on that Logic alone, I would expect you to not view Calix as Mafia given that the post that made you think she was mafia (which was her first game post) is literally the exact same thing you did just replace rayn with her.
Id suggest if you would like to meta read me (which I believe is easy to do) go look at any of my other games. I have well, many spanning back years. So go for it.
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TBH your tone currently sounds super diff than last game VE. Also your auto swap aggro to HF is the shit he is referring to.
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Heading to work. Might be able to phone post while there, might not depending on how fast the game grows. Regardless Im away from a computer for over 12 hours.
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Yeah. Bugs you can stay in my town circle.
Anyone wondering why anyone (mainly bugs and myself)
Are on ruxxar.
1) his first post called out someone for being mafia. This post however was near identical to the person he called mafia.
2) when pushed on said read he highlighted one aspect that made him think calix was red. Which was a read on bugs.
3) subsequently from then he has said town reads, been ok to just swap to other likely wagons (with near no stated reason) and thrown shade without solid commitment to anything.
4) active lurking.
All these things are mafia traits. As such I believe he has a higher likelihood to flip scum. People can keep looking at other people. I mean I want people to keep hunting for the other scum. However the lack of anyone wanting to even comment on ruxxar while trying to bring igrok/calix/anyone else forward is odd.
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Back to work. Next break is in a few hours
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This thread is such a clusterfuck.
Lets all sit back for like, 5 minutes. Remove all our current views for the moment on Calix and Ruxxar.
I say this as these 2 have eaten up the majority of the last well, 30+ hours?
Who does everyone else think is mafia. Of those people who has been say mentioned many times but like, any number of people but its either ignored, buried, or forgotten?
This is for people like VE and Bugs. Stop fighting each other for 5 minutes and how about we find some form of consensus.
and before you yell and scream at me bugs. Yes I think Ruxxar could still flip mafia, but it means jack shit currently if neither of us can convince anyone else to see what we have. So if only 2 maybe 3 people see what we see, just for a moment concede for the purposes of other options that we could be wrong.
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damnit bugs. We have such differing reads on a few players =\
Basically mine is as followed
Town
BC
WBG
HF (again god help me)
VE
Null
Koshi
Conversion
Jock
Rayn (although he is leaning to the scum column now)
Calix (only because I think Ruxxar is higher chance to be mafia, but could still be red)
Igrok
Mafia
Ruxxar
Disinformation
Artanis
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