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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 17:58 GMT
#3457
I'll say that I found his certainty about his Calix read to be the most unfortunate - my read of the situation was that the game he linked would have made Calix MORE confident in her ability to read HF Town and her ability to find Mafia Rayn, not less. Rayn says that because she would be LESS confident, her read has to be fake/made up...but like I said, that's not the read I got off the game he linked.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:12 GMT
#3478
On May 25 2019 02:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so I'm open to the idea that I've just been wrong about rayn this whole time. I've had to disagree with like every reason he's given for his reads...not like, WHOLLY disagree, but disagree with the level of certainty that these things provide rayn. I've written it off to his playstyle up until now, but frankly with this his most recent Top 10 Anime Betrayal of HF, I'm left thinking maybe I'm the one being fooled here. Maybe he's trying to emulate his town-play as mafia with all this crazy certainty? It's DEFINITELY in his wheelhouse.

Someone like HF with loads of meta weigh in. Has rayn's certainty up to now been within his normal town-rayn range of certainty - to - bad reasoning?

rayn mafia game in the past was always say what the thread will say but 5 hourd before that.

Then by definition you can never get a read on him because everything he's saying you can't corroborate for 5 hours and by then it's something different. I.E. there's no way this metric is real.

Y U MAKE SHIT UP KOSHI?!?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:17 GMT
#3485
On May 25 2019 03:14 Koshi wrote:
And he is sad bec2ause of that.

Yeah no, that doesn't sound like rayn at all he fucking loves when towns don't listen to him because one of his FAVORITE things in the world is being right when everyone else is wrong.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:18 GMT
#3489
Because his hidden points are no longer hidden? 2 of them were townie?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:21 GMT
#3491
On May 25 2019 03:20 Koshi wrote:
VE not doing anything with this image is just ridiculous not? Just waiting out the aftermath. Lol.

Well ok. Maybe wbg has 1 correct read.

You think this image makes him town? Or what? I'm mafia for.....not unvoting Grok? What does this even mean?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:26 GMT
#3496
On May 25 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 03:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:20 Koshi wrote:
VE not doing anything with this image is just ridiculous not? Just waiting out the aftermath. Lol.

Well ok. Maybe wbg has 1 correct read.

You think this image makes him town? Or what? I'm mafia for.....not unvoting Grok? What does this even mean?


they were never hidden

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Then idk.

That img is just an incomplete thread summary with SOME thoughts. Not to minimize the way you work iGrok but I really don't see why anyone townreads you for this.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:29 GMT
#3498
On May 25 2019 03:23 Koshi wrote:
Afk.

Koshi ❤ iGrok

This is so dumb, like he changes his read of me and rather than try and figure me out he just dips? And I bet 1M$ that he just comes in here and starts screaming about how I'm mafia.

GOD DAMNIT

And people wonder why I have no reads this game. It's been the same shit with Artanis, iGrok BC and Calix, JFC
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:32 GMT
#3500
On May 25 2019 03:32 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:20 Koshi wrote:
VE not doing anything with this image is just ridiculous not? Just waiting out the aftermath. Lol.

Well ok. Maybe wbg has 1 correct read.

You think this image makes him town? Or what? I'm mafia for.....not unvoting Grok? What does this even mean?


they were never hidden

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Then idk.

That img is just an incomplete thread summary with SOME thoughts. Not to minimize the way you work iGrok but I really don't see why anyone townreads you for this.

That's pretty much what it is, yeah. I fucking hate diving filters, so when I read, when I find a post or interaction that feels important, I list it here. Then I can see a concise player activity summary. I can move around the summaries to put related ones next to each other if I want or just to compare two. Doing this filters out a lot of the bullshit spam that I think everyone would admit this game is full of.

It also makes you miss a bunch of shit. But whatever floats your boat.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:34 GMT
#3502
On May 25 2019 03:33 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:20 Koshi wrote:
VE not doing anything with this image is just ridiculous not? Just waiting out the aftermath. Lol.

Well ok. Maybe wbg has 1 correct read.

You think this image makes him town? Or what? I'm mafia for.....not unvoting Grok? What does this even mean?


they were never hidden

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Then idk.

That img is just an incomplete thread summary with SOME thoughts. Not to minimize the way you work iGrok but I really don't see why anyone townreads you for this.

Also, see the post above the one you quoted. Please don't take what HF says about my methods as more true than what I say about my methods. You might not think its good/effective but at the very least I know more about what I'm doing than someone else does.

Yeah I'm definitely not reading you based on HF's interpretation of your notes. XD
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:35 GMT
#3504
Is there like a town equivalent of baby seals? I'm really tempted to just clock out of this game.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:36 GMT
#3507
stfu Koshi
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:37 GMT
#3509
On May 25 2019 03:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 03:33 iGrok wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:20 Koshi wrote:
VE not doing anything with this image is just ridiculous not? Just waiting out the aftermath. Lol.

Well ok. Maybe wbg has 1 correct read.

You think this image makes him town? Or what? I'm mafia for.....not unvoting Grok? What does this even mean?


they were never hidden

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Then idk.

That img is just an incomplete thread summary with SOME thoughts. Not to minimize the way you work iGrok but I really don't see why anyone townreads you for this.

Also, see the post above the one you quoted. Please don't take what HF says about my methods as more true than what I say about my methods. You might not think its good/effective but at the very least I know more about what I'm doing than someone else does.


Look, I don't care if you read me mafia or if I read you mafia I just want an honest answer, as the guy responsible for leading the lynch on you. Why have you not reevaluated your read on me when your town read disformation has said you've got it wrong, your other town reads don't scum read me for what you say and they play a lot more with me than you do?

I've pointed out where you're wrong on me and you fail to evaluate new information, why?


This is where I'm at with Bugs. I really just don't know if it makes him mafia. Just....obstinate.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:39 GMT
#3512
Ehhhhhhhhh

I think I vote Bugs instead. *shrug*

Maybe I'm just wrong about Bugs and he's just fucking mafia after all. And as it's the theme this game, I'm just gonna fuck off and hope he gets lynched!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:40 GMT
#3514
*salute*
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 18:58 GMT
#3534
On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
omg I shouldn’t be awake right now. I have a class in 6 hours and it’s all humid and hot in here. Hate this season in Japan and it’s only beginning

iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you.

I’m going to do something heroic and at least temporarily promote both Artanis and BC to townies so that I can get their opinions here.

@Artanis[Xp] and @BloodyC0bbler:

I know you’re both short on time and actually oddly enough this is why I really value both of your opinions at this stage in the game.
1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok?

2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads?

3. I would appreciate if you take a moment to let me know what your recollection is of VE, rayn, and Koshi reading each other, when they reached said reads, and what led them to read each other in said way. Please give both your gut read based on memory and then whatever you can support with evidence.

Also if you can comment on whether you’ve ever noticed any of the three of them have a constructive discussion with you or a townread of yours. By constructive, I mean an interaction where the player does not simply shoot down an idea, but instead either 1.) builds on it or 2.) asks a clarifying question when there is a clear disagreement. 10,000 arbitrary bonus points for either of these two scenarios: a follow up on a question and an unprompted, proactive question about a read that the player holds. Final caveat: anything to the other two does not count.

Please write your response before reading the spoiler below.

+ Show Spoiler +

I find it hilarious that VE and Koshi both basically instantly started distancing each other and VE started distancing rayn when I mentioned a second time the possibility of a VE/rayn/Koshi scum team. This actually happened for a brief moment by VE on both of them right around when Jock became confirmed god-town and then presumably stopped when no one actually scumread rayn in the aftermath.

+ Show Spoiler +

I can guarantee the three of you that if even one of you is scum, you’re going to have to kill me in the next half cycle or you will be lynched. and if you are scum together, distancing or bussing each other at this point is futile because I have seen everything. The three of you have ridden each other’s dicks for 95% of the game so far and if you stop now when iGrok is still the lynch and no one is moving votes, you have TMI. Koshi I see you scumming HF, calling me bad and getting prepared to move to iGrok when you’ve now realized what I’m up to and that defending iGrok now is an indication of TMI. We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF.



WHAT IF I'M TOWN ASSHOLE?!?

WHAT THE FUCK IF I'M TOWN I COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE THAT YOU LEFT OUT THAT POSSIBILITY FROM YOUR LITTLE BULLSHIT BUT THAT'S THE CASE AND YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT SO TELL ME HOW YOUR THOUGHTS CHANGE IF I'M TOWN
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 19:00 GMT
#3535
No bugs is town here, this is dumb. I'm not voting for Bugs.

##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis[xp]
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 19:04 GMT
#3537
The things Bugs is accusing me of do not make me mafia.

This goes on every page from now until I die.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 19:04 GMT
#3538
In fact it may come out once every 10 posts fuck I don't know it all depends on how fucking salty I get.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 19:07 GMT
#3541
On May 25 2019 04:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 04:00 iGrok wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:

iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you.



Copy/pasting breaks all the formatting and leaves it illegible. I tried that originally, didn't work. Sorry.

If you click on the image, it'll take you to the imgur site where you can see it full size. You may need to click it on their site to fully zoom in, but I promise its completely legible.

Sorry but I'm just not going to format something twice.

On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF.

This doesn't make any sense.


Good. It only makes sense to mafia who have TMI.

Every townie in the game barring you if you are actually town should have agreed with the case on you.

VE rayn and Koshi have had all the “correct” reads and literally 0 reasons. It basically feels like they are all channeling Grackaroni from last game.

The things Bugs is accusing me of do not make me mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 19:08 GMT
#3543
The worst part is there's literally nothing I can do to change his read - he's just gonna herp and derp all the way to lynching me and then BLAME me for it.

In spite of the fact that...

The things Bugs is accusing me of do not make me mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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